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Insufflation of Heroin #3.

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solnakorv

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Fellow bluelighters,

I have a question for you (and I have indeed searched VERY thoroughly) for an answer to my Q.

As Heroin #4 is for all intents and purposes available to any route of administration, is H#3 of the same quality if prepared properly with Vitamin C? I am now only referring to the ROA via the nostrils.

A lot of the other threads concerning this subject have been, in my opinion, vague as to whether H#3 is a cost-effective way (excluding injecting it) to insufflate if adequately acidified.

As this is my first post, I would be happy to receive, of course, primarily, an answer to my question, and, also, any rules I have broken, if any. (Hope not- and I am very much sorry if it turns out I have.)

Looking forward to replies,
Best regards,
Solnakorv
 
Hi mate,

This isn't going to answer your question but I'll share my experience.

Are you sure its heroin base?Unless you are experienced or your source is reliable I would take the heroin "numbers", with a grain of salt. Here in Australia I believe we usually get 4 which is snortable. However, throughout my dope career I have had people throw all sorts of numbers on the end of their batch and regardless I have always had success snorting (which used to be my route of choice until I made the unwise decision to pick up the needle).

Not long ago I was given a couple of grams of "European #3", and it was brown clumps/powder. Snorted just fine.

Anyway, as I said these have just been my experiences and an no way is it advice or recommendation to you.

I hope someone with more knowledge on the topic helps you out.

Peace and stay safe mate. Heroin can be heaven and heroin can be hell.
 
You can snort base heroin as it is. Very inefficient but it does work if you have no other way of getting it into you.

If you cooked it up with citric acid or vitamin c as you would for IV, the let the water evaporate (low heat), the resulting powder that you scrape up will be heroin citrate or ascorbate, both water soluble salts that will sniff just as good as #4 heroin hcl.
 
catching fish & Tryptamite,

Thank you for taking time to answer my question. Tryptamites reply seems to answer my question to a degree of 100 %.

If no one else has any input that can shed some doubt on Tryptamites answer; I'll take his/her post as a fact due to the soundness of the reasoning behind it.

Thank you, guys/gals! Both.

Bluelight really proved itself to be a forum of great value when coming to issues such as the present. My first post and I got all the help I was in need of. : - ) (L)
 
Tryptamite said:
You can snort base heroin as it is. Very inefficient but it does work if you have no other way of getting it into you.

If you cooked it up with citric acid or vitamin c as you would for IV, the let the water evaporate (low heat), the resulting powder that you scrape up will be heroin citrate or ascorbate, both water soluble salts that will sniff just as good as #4 heroin hcl.
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That is a fucking brilliant answer mate! I really wish I had access to this kind of knowledge when I was injecting acidified crap into my veins. Typical, now that I have no decent veins left, I've finally found out how to do it properly! Hopefully a whole new generation of users will take heed of this information. Nice one! :)
 
Heroin No. 3 and 4?

OK, I've only done heroin once or twice, but I'm curious as to what this refers to? Is it a form of branding? And how on earth could you know for sure that something someone sold you was actually one number or another?
 
DexyDevil said:
Heroin No. 3 and 4?

OK, I've only done heroin once or twice, but I'm curious as to what this refers to? Is it a form of branding? And how on earth could you know for sure that something someone sold you was actually one number or another?
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Okay I'll bite, here's probably more than you wanted to know..

Morphine or morphine base (heroin #1) is combined with Glacial Acetic Acid (GAA), any will work, Acetic Acid is best, and heated for 2 to 6 hours in reflux to form the acetate. This is #2 heroin. Acetate is rarely sold is (hardly anymore because nobody would really want to buy it, it is difficult to work with) but usually converted into heroin base (also #2) and either sold as is (if coming from SW Asia, or further converted into a finer salt with HCL acid and a modicum of heat .

#3 that is hardly ever made anymore it's simply #4 with additives for flavor and potentiating, as well as a huge amount of active substance like caffeine to lower the melting point in order to make it conducive for smoking.

Finally, #4 can be as is or further refined as they now do only in SE Asia, into a cream bath which upon processing can make it as much as 98% pure which is an incredible figure for illicit heroin (although almost always 93 to 95 percent pure).

China White is just the term coined by addicts and users to describe SE Asian #4. The vinegar smell is a result of ACETIC ACID impurities. When dopes been heavily purified, it wont have any vinegar smell.

If it has a vinegar smell, its half-assed heroin. Meaning they didint bother purifying it to no ends. Most heroin will have a vinegar smell because the producers dont care about getting it anywhere beyond the 90% mark of purity. What do you think the other 10% is?? Ill guarantee some of it is acetic acid unreacted and uncleaned from the final product. If youve ever smelt acetic acid youd know what im saying. That stuff reaks to high heaven and beyond, you open a bottle of acetic acid and aliens on mars can smell that shit.

Any other smells are the results of the millions of possible cuts they could be using in street grade dope.

TRULY pure dope, will have no odor detectable by a humans nose (now dogs, thats a different story). It STINKS of vinegar when first made. After youve purified it numerous times over, the smell will be gone.

If your dope dont smell, thats a GOOD sign, means the person actually put effort into purifying it, and then cut it with odorless cuts to boot. Injecting acetic acid impurities is just disgusting. Heroin can have MANY possible smells, based on the cuts used. But if its pure dope, it wont smell. If its your average 'pure' dope (90% SEA #4 for example, the stuff you get in the 700 gram unit bricks) will smell like vinegar, because they never go beyond the 90% mark, the amount of effort it takes to get beyond that % of purity is alot of work and not worth it to the "big boys". Most dope should smell like vinegar. But just because it doesnt, doesnt mean its fake dope. Just means its well made dope.
 
I'd like to thank you all Bluelighters for making my first thread here not only answered by one or two or three people. : - )

It raises my confidence that I brought up an important subject.

Thank you to all who replied to this thread!
 
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