What does a lot of booze and GBL look like?

[Limpet_Chicken]

Aye, if I had taken it orally more than a handful of times, I never could have even had a physical dependency BEATEN into me, let alone actually given one to myself. Tastes fuck all like sulfuric though issy, much more nasty metallic, and less burnt, rotting rubber dog anus (H2SO4......not deliberate) than GBL.

GBL in any detectable concentration, I'd think the only way to get a spiked drink in someone is in a shot, and hope they didn't realize who was responsible to point the meatheads at ex post facto. Its awful, the smell lingers a lot more in the drink than does a diluted solution's taste (I should point out, these were my own drinks, 'spiked' for consumption purposes, or those of other people who accepted GBL, sans alcohol, and had it prepared in front of them)

 

[Ismene]

Only problem with GBL - take just a tad too much and you end up unconscious and vomiting all over yourself.

 

[Allein]

Only problem with GBL - take just a tad too much and you end up unconscious and vomiting all over yourself.

any amount of GBL makes me do that and GHB isn't fare behind

 

[Bearlove]

I know GBL / I know Ghb - yeah if I was drinking something like Corona with a fresh slice of lime I could excuse the taste. I was drinking diet vodka and coke which is something I drink daily - I had a bag of pills, ket, speed on me as I was going clubbing after the bars. I take benzos with booze a lot and I know what Xanax / Ambien feels like. I'm 190 (ish) cm and hover around the 100 /120 kilos range.

What I was given hit me within 30 mins / no come up / no fuzzyness - I went from sober to fucked. The initial effect lasted about 12 hours - bearing in mind I had smashed my face in as I collapsed in the street ( I was lying in the street puking up).

I obsessed about this for weeks ! IF i was to guess I would say Flunitrazepam,

 

[crazycatman]

I'm not so sure, 2ml of GBL in one of those WKD things may well go unnoticed.

Really? I'm surprised something can mask that awful taste.

any amount of GBL makes me do that and GHB isn't fare behind

10 minutes or so... however long your body takes to convert it

Anyway, the only real way to know for sure was if she had a blood test immediately afterward.

>I obsessed about this for weeks ! IF i was to guess I would say Flunitrazepam,
I'd guess it was one of the water soluble benzos too.


Anyway has anyone thought about what goes on in peoples heads when they do this shit? Because I've tried and always came to the conclusion something must be seriously wrong with you to even consider it.

 

[knock]

Anyway has anyone thought about what goes on in peoples heads when they do this shit? Because I've tried and always came to the conclusion something must be seriously wrong with you to even consider it.

When my age was single digits, in fact until I was about 14 or 15, sometimes I did pranks and the thinking went no further than "Ha that'll be fun!". The consequences were sometimes not even considered. I just went ahead.

Obviously I'm different now, I think quite deeply about consequences. But I suppose there are adults who failed to move on from that "just do it" phase.

 

[Jesusgreen]

I remember a time when me and a couple of mates were down one of the bars here and were all sharing my bottle of GBL between us putting it in our drinks. I left to pop to the loo, and since it was just my mates in the small side room I'd been in, I didn't bother to remind them to watch the drinks. Came back to see another guy we knew had just downed my drink and said he was sorry and he'd get me a new one.. didn't notice the GBL taste, and luckily when I informed him what he'd just done he avoided drinking too much, had a good time and enjoyed it.

So yeah it is possible to not notice the GBL taste. I've actually found some brands of juice here that pretty much completely mask it, and as for in a bar once I've taken enough of the stuff or I'm plenty drunk my sense of taste is all wonky anyway so I wouldn't taste it unless it was a lot.

Plus you have to bear in mind if the people spiking drinks pick people who're already drunk they'd only have to give you a very small amount of the stuff.

GHB or benzos are more likely though.

I've heard a lot of spiked drink stories, but a lot of them sound dubious to me and more like someone just didn't expect the booze to be so strong.

 

[Treacle]

It's not just the taste of GBL, it's the fucking smell. Having had so much of it, I'd notice it immediately, but I guess someone wasted could neck it in a Jager-bomb, or whatever. GHB would be easier to hide, if the drink was strong tasting. I actually quite like GHB and Vimto, compared to GBL, anyway.

 

[alasdairm]

Last night I ended up nursing two girls that were in a very bad way.. they'd obviously been drinking a lot but seemed to go from pissed to unconscious vomiting messes in about 15 minutes, with bouts of confusion, collapsing, blacking out, and "I don't understand why I feel like this." There was profuse vomiting for about 40 minutes which didn't seem to help that much.

a friend of mine got spiked with, we presume, ghb in a club in san francisco once. this is exactly how it manifested.

alasdair

 

[Treacle]

^Yeah, I agree with that.

Swampy: Were they trying to move and failing, and making slurring noises/mumbling shit, then passing out and repeating it all again? One of the main things I've noticed, about G, is repetition. People will keep trying to do something, like walk, until they just fall down, if they're challenged. They'd normally have a nice sleep and wake up (unless booze is involved), if they were left somewhere quiet. Being challenged on G isn't very pleasant, as you just want to go to sleep. If you're not left alone, you'll try and move away. Again, if booze is a factor, then the person might need to be watched, or taken to A&E. As long as they are breathing, and have a healthy colour, even if they are unrousable, they're normally fine. I've only had alcohol with G maybe ten times, out of the thousands of times I've had G, because you absolutely don't need booze with it. Alcohol actually gives it a dirty buzz. G is far superior.