Would Gabapentin work as a comedown aid for someone with no tolerance to the drug?

[WorldWarMe]

Would Gabapentin work as a comedown aid after amphetamine use?

I take Amphetamines on the odd occasion and decided to fill my script for 6,000mg Gabapentin. I have done countless searches and haven't seem to come to a proper answer. Lets say, for example, I were to take 80mg Dextroamphetamine. If I was to take a recreational dose of Gabapentin when the comedown starts, would it help? I have read that if you take upwards of 1,000mg you can almost get a benzodiazepine type high. This tells me that it would be a very effective comedown drug.

As I have never taken this I have a few questions. I have 6,000mg but taking 1,000-1,800mg (according to posts on this site) seems pretty excessive. What is a good starting dose for Gabapentin to kill an amphetamine comedown?

Any other tips and ideas are greatly welcome.

 

[Venrak]

Yes, it will help smooth things out.

Try 800mg and see where that gets you.

It increases GABA concentrations, so you should expect anxiolysis etc.

 

[WorldWarMe]

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Yes, it will help smooth things out.

Try 800mg and see where that gets you.

It increases GABA concentrations, so you should expect anxiolysis etc.

Would my extremely high tolerance to benzos mean I have to take more of the drug than someone without a tolerance would?

 

[Venrak]

Yeah.

Still, try 800mg, then increase if necessary. This isn't going to knock you out, but it will help with muscle tension, nerve pain, anxiety etc.

 

[WorldWarMe]

Yeah.

Still, try 800mg, then increase if necessary. This isn't going to knock you out, but it will help with muscle tension, nerve pain, anxiety etc.

Getting to sleep isn't the issue. I have about 19 7.5mg Zopiclones that I could use to get to sleep but I absolutely hate the mild hallucinations it causes. I know in theory I could just take 4-5 Zopiclones to stop the comedown but I would be hallucinating my face off. I took one this morning (a single one) and I am still noticing some hallucinations.

 

[Venrak]

That is to be expected. It's easier to disturb the normal functioning of your consciousness and entrain it this way or that when you are in this state. Try it without the zopiclone, toss in some fruit or something warm to drink and just quiet down. You'll crash.

 

[WorldWarMe]

That is to be expected. It's easier to disturb the normal functioning of your consciousness and entrain it this way or that when you are in this state. Try it without the zopiclone, toss in some fruit or something warm to drink and just quiet down. You'll crash.

I'm not sure if you're an amphetamine user but if you are, how do you force yourself to eat? I just can not do it. I cant even get a piece of bread down. I tried eating an apple once and it literally tore the roof of my mouth into pieces, it was ridiculously painful.

 

[Intenselife]

I wish i could hallucinate from zopiclones, but gabapentin should help coming down in terms of mild anxiety, some nerve/muscle pain but if you have a high tolerance to benzos i doubt it will be worth it to you.

I stopped taking my prescribed gabapentin and after being non-tolerant to it again i took 2000mg when coming down from adderall and it didn't really help much, but in the past when i was sold xanax (which ended up being a 400mg gabapentin) it helped a lot in a way i don't think it ever could again.

I like the numb feeling you get when you no tolerance at all to gabapentin or haven't been prescribed to them in the past. I don't know much prescription pills that i've tried that has the numbing effect that gabapentin did (doesn't anymore).

 

[WorldWarMe]

I wish i could hallucinate from zopiclones, but gabapentin should help coming down in terms of mild anxiety, some nerve/muscle pain but if you have a high tolerance to benzos i doubt it will be worth it to you.

I stopped taking my prescribed gabapentin and after being non-tolerant to it again i took 2000mg when coming down from adderall and it didn't really help much, but in the past when i was sold xanax (which ended up being a 400mg gabapentin) it helped a lot in a way i don't think it ever could again.

I like the numb feeling you get when you no tolerance at all to gabapentin or haven't been prescribed to them in the past. I don't know much prescription pills that i've tried that has the numbing effect that gabapentin did (doesn't anymore).

The only thing I'm worried about is it not working. If I told you the story of my Temazepam and Alprazolam addiction... well, chances are you wouldn't even believe me. If it acts in the same way as a benzo I think it might not have any affect at all, my benzodiazepine tolerance is so high it's unbelievable.

 

[Intenselife]

Well it doesn't hurt to try, it won't harm you in anyway. I wouldn't say they act the same way benzos do, but yeah just take like 1000mg and see if you feel better and let us know.

 

[WorldWarMe]

One more question. When taking benzos for comedowns they almost instantly drop the extreme blood pressure and fast heart rate as well as reducing your body temperature to a comfortable degree. Does Gabapentin also do this?

 

[Intenselife]

Interesting question. Yes and no. It CAN but isn't always guranteed like with benzos and it won't do it to the extreme benzos will or as quickly. It might slightly lower your heart rate (idk about blood pressure probably a tiny bit) and a little bit effect on the temperature.

Did you take it yet?

 

[WorldWarMe]

Not yet, after a good nights sleep I decided to take one more dose. No work today or tomorrow so why not right? Hahaha. I am still fucking hallucinating from that Zopicline I took to get to sleep. It was hardly noticeable until I took the amphetamine and now literally everything in my room is moving and waving and I can see this really weird fairy-like substance flying all around me. Like dust, but shiny, and I can physically touch it. I hate hallucinating so much.

Well, I learnt my lesson. Zopiclone + Amphetamines = NO.

 

[Intenselife]

Really?! That's crazy. I was gonna it is because of sleep deprivation but you said you just had a good night's sleep. Lol i like hallucinations like that, if zopiclone is what i'm thinking of it's lunesta right? I took like 6 of them once and felt mildly drowsy but never combined with an amphetamine. Now ambien's are even more known to cause hallucinations (by itself) imagine if it was that you took. What amphetamine and dose did you take if you don't me asking?

 

[WorldWarMe]

7.5mg Zopiclone (Immovane, Zopiclone isn't sold in America, only its active isomer Esczopiclone which is Lunesta) at 6:03am to get some sleep then I took 80mg Dextroamphetamine at 4:15pm and another 35mg Dextroamphetamine at 4:50pm. Its probably worth noting I was not hallucinating at all until about two hours after the amphetamine kicked in.
I hate it.

Edit: I just thought that I would add that it is extremely hard to read anything on my screen and that everything, including my mouse, is moving. The icons in the task-bar are getting bigger and then smaller, circling around. Text sometimes will literally just fall off of it's line and start taking all the other letters underneath it with it. If I look at my clothes in the closet they look like they are warping into different textures and breathing on their own. The towel hanging on my door from my earlier shower looks like it is dancing to the music I am playing. And its going at it hard, too. I could go on...

 

[Intenselife]

Whoaaaaaa sounds like something i wish i could experience although you dont like it. Dextroamphetamine as in dexedrine? Has this happened before? That's very unusual that your hallucinating that intense without any sleep deprivation, do you think you dosed too high (amphetamine psychosis).

 

[Venrak]

You getting that weird tendril/smoke visual thing?

 

[WorldWarMe]

Whoaaaaaa sounds like something i wish i could experience although you dont like it. Dextroamphetamine as in dexedrine? Has this happened before? That's very unusual that your hallucinating that intense without any sleep deprivation, do you think you dosed too high (amphetamine psychosis).

Hahaha, no, I did not dose too high. No amphetamine psychosis. I have dosed much higher with much less sleep. This was guaranteed caused by the Zopiclone. The one time I request if from my doctor for legitimate sleep issues and this happens. There is absolutely no way that this is just a coincidence. Also, yes, Dextroamphetamine as in Dexedrine. The triangular orange 5mg pills. My guess is it simply potentiated the hallucinations to such an extent that I cant stop noticing it. Remember, I said that I could hardly notice them before. But, before I took the Amphetamines if I concentrated REALLY hard I might have been able to get the floor slowly moving or something. This reminds me of what happens when I take over 13mg Lorazepam or take 15-25mg Zopiclone at once. It`s the exact same type of hallucinations. I am not seeing things that aren't there like people with amphetamine psychosis do, I'm very calm, typing and thinking coherently and I know what I am seeing is fake (another thing someone with Amp Psychosis couldn't realize).

This is just a case of really, really, really shitty luck (for me at least).

But, on a brighter note, if you want to experience this just go find some Eszopiclone and take 4-5 of them at once. Or take a really high dose of Lorazepam, around 10-15mg (if you can handle that, don't be stupid). The exact same thing will happen. Just odd how amphetamines made them more vivid, I can actually touch this weird ass fairy dust shit and feel it on my hand. Thats something I never experience with either Lorazepam or Zopiclone. Very new.

You getting that weird tendril/smoke visual thing?

Yes, that is the "Fairy Dust" I was talking about. It's shiny and I can physically touch it. It is also orange and slightly green.

 

[Venrak]

Yeah, don't go dosing 15mg lorazepam.

 

[WorldWarMe]

Yeah, don't go dosing 15mg lorazepam.

Hahha, that made me laugh pretty hard. I almost spat my drink out. That is the last thing I want. I did that a month or so ago when coming down from a two day Dexedrine binge. Took 15mg at once initially, got impatient and took 6.5mg ten minutes later. I was hallucinating so fucking bad. Now that I think of it, that was much worse than what I'm experiencing now. This doesn't actually make me mad like those Lorazepam hallucinations did.
(Nobody should be taking 21mg Lorazepam, I have a stupidly high benzodiazepine tolerance developed over years of abuse) - Mini Warning, lol.