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Opioids Dihydrocodeine rectal dose - no syringe! HELP!

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I read the BA of Dihydrocodeine is 20 percent orally compared to 90 of codeine.
I used codeine around 100m
But I've got now 400mg of DHC sitting in a solution of 150ml water (400mg is a high dose for opiate naive people)

Does this mean I'm gonna feel NOTHING except 80mg of DHC if I drink it?! That would be worthless.

I wouldn't mind trying rectal but 150ml of water is wayyyyy too much right!? PLUS I don't have a Oral syringe and every chemist is closed!

I suppose the only way I can do it is drink it right?

Any other better ways?? 80mg wont do shit to me, but I was thinking 400mg would as its stronger than codeine. Also a side note, whats the POINT of putting 7.5 mg in an otc pill if your only getting 2mg or less!?! The other questions are more important though! I wanna dose now! I've been drinking and eating gapefruit and I have diazepam, will that help? Remember my tolerance to codeine is high.

Really really, need advice quick cos its sitting there waiting for me!!!!! Thanks!!
 
Yeah 150ml would be like an enema. All the water squirts up your bum. Pause... 3 more seconds...... Ohh fuck! I got to shit! .... And poopy water squirts right back out your ass.


Oral dhc is still 1.5-2x stronger than oral codeine. You'll feel good man. BA just means if a doc wants to give you the equiv of 30mg oral morphine he looks at bioavailabilities and says well ill administer the equivalent, which is 10mg iv. So if rectal BA for dhc was 90% (random guess, you'd have to check) and oral is you say 20, you'd plug 2.5x less, so 160mg rectal dhc to equal 400mg oral dhc and ~600-800oral codeine.


P.S. yes the benzos will help, but idk if the grapefruit juice will work against you or not. I know dhc is metabolized into dihydromorphine like codeine is into morphine, but there are other metabolic factors at play. I'd reckon you'll still get twisted though.
 
You'll just have to drink it. 400mg dhc is a decent dose. Especially if you normally take 100mg codeine.

If you wanted to plug it you'd need a 10ml syringe at least and slowly need to evaporate the 150ml water down to fit into the 10ml. At temperatures of like 60-70 Celsius.

But if the rectal BA is really that much higher than oral you might seriously reconsider lugging a lower dosage. You might OD.
 
Tryptamite said:
You'll just have to drink it. 400mg dhc is a decent dose. Especially if you normally take 100mg codeine.
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No mate, I normally take 1000mg of codeine not 100mg, that wouldn't even touch the sides!
 
alt 14 said:
Yeah 150ml would be like an enema. All the water squirts up your bum. Pause... 3 more seconds...... Ohh fuck! I got to shit! .... And poopy water squirts right back out your ass.


Oral dhc is still 1.5-2x stronger than oral codeine. You'll feel good man. BA just means if a doc wants to give you the equiv of 30mg oral morphine he looks at bioavailabilities and says well ill administer the equivalent, which is 10mg iv. So if rectal BA for dhc was 90% (random guess, you'd have to check) and oral is you say 20, you'd plug 2.5x less, so 160mg rectal dhc to equal 400mg oral dhc and ~600-800oral codeine.


P.S. yes the benzos will help, but idk if the grapefruit juice will work against you or not. I know dhc is metabolized into dihydromorphine like codeine is into morphine, but there are other metabolic factors at play. I'd reckon you'll still get twisted though.
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Amazing advice man! I wasn't sure exactly how BA's work, thats why I like to know more. So I'll still be getting my full 400mg oral? Like say if I drank a 1000mg codeine?
If so Im drinking away! I started to think 'Oh great, I'm getting 80mg of DHC, worthless, but now I feel better if this is the case! PM me regarding other issue I haven't checked yet though, he, should really! Just decided today, right, I aint going anywhere my foots fucked, instead of buying 4 boxes of cocos Im buying 2 boxes of DHCs as theres only 2 chemists near me.

GF, 30mg diazepam, and I've had a little bit of milk to neutralise (no antacids around!)
 
Tryptamite said:
Right well 400mg dhc should be 600-800mg codeine orally.
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That should give a tingle :D
DHC is expensiveeee.
I would never ask about cocos, done that for years. DHC only a couple times but in crushed and bombed time realease pills a while ago.
Only prob is one chemist didnt have the 32 pack box grrrrr.....so Ended up with a 24 and a 32.
So another 60mg or so less. Cheers guys!!! I waited for the advice before doing anything, now I wil just drink it and lay back and relax! :)
 
Just hope the GF hasnt hindered the experience...It was Pink juice, and one whole red GF. Cant find white for the life of me...maybe in the city, but not where i am. Any difference?
 
Most people think milk is a base, but its actually slightly acidic. But with the grapefruit juice thing, it has to do with inhibiting enzymes in your liver, not really the acidity of the drink. So don't start munching tums and baking soda to neutralize anything; won't do ya any good. If you want to do anything to make up for it, just wait a few hours and let your stomach digest the juice before you take your dhc. But tbh I think the diazepam will more than compensate for the grapefruit juice thang, so you can probably just down it now.

Yeah man if you only ate one grapefruit you're good to go. When I potentiate I drink like 64oz of white gfj. That one pink is nothing. If you would've done what I did and drank a whole large bottle of juice it might matter some, but I doubt you'll have any inhibition on the experience.
 
alt 14 said:
Most people think milk is a base, but its actually slightly acidic. But with the grapefruit juice thing, it has to do with inhibiting enzymes in your liver, not really the acidity of the drink. So don't start munching tums and baking soda to neutralize anything; won't do ya any good. If you want to do anything to make up for it, just wait a few hours and let your stomach digest the juice before you take your dhc. But tbh I think the diazepam will more than compensate for the grapefruit juice thang, so you can probably just down it now.

Yeah man if you only ate one grapefruit you're good to go. When I potentiate I drink like 64oz of white gfj. That one pink is nothing. If you would've done what I did and drank a whole large bottle of juice it might matter some, but I doubt you'll have any inhibition on the experience.
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Ok man, It has been over the space of a few hours. one GF whole, and about a pint (1/2 litre or more) I know you yanks and us deal in different liquid measurements!
Although ounces, quarters and eigths are used for some other things ;) and legal things too. Its a bit of a mish mash of imperial and metric here in the UK.

Ok cheers guys,
Here I go.

Will report back!
 
Guess what guys? I didn't start a new thread, i am learning! But I need urgent help from you guys....

OK, Did it.
Definitely felt more than if it was 400mg of codeine.
Short report:

Tingly warm for around an hour. Nothing too major like 1000mg of codeine my usual dose, felt like 600mg.
Effects wore off and was very hungry! Trip report end. Nothing to write home about, cos of low dose lack of potentiators except diazepam.

I had a lucky day today, the other day I hurt my foot and went to minor injuries unit (yes I tried script!) They did tell me to get me some magnesium sulphate to put under the plaster as I may have something stuck in there. Short version got my old dear to drive me to the nearest open pharmacy, (theres 100s but its sunday) Boots was open, got a pack of paramol not enough though. Went back to the car said nah, all chemists closed, off to tesco. Wanted 3 boxes and there was a boots round the corner, but I managed to get two out of em in tesco :D AND 56 promethazine 25mg (and my foot stuff!)

HOWEVER
This morning, very early 7 or 8 I took 5mg Alprazolam. Two hours later took (from memory) 20 mg diazepam, 10mg etizolam, 1mg pyrazolam and 2mg diCLazepam (a new one). I just wanted a bit of fun in the waiting room. Only waited 5 mins though!
Was a bit dreamy but a few hours I am fine now.

Also, I managed to find precious white grapefruit juice (from concentrate but someone said thats better/same) I have had a litre over an hour.

SO......

717mg (minus loss in CWE so around 700mg) DHC and promethazine.

Safe or not safe? I never normally take prometh, but its dead cheap and has many uses, I have hayfever, sends me to sleep when I have enough, potentiation so while I was there though fuck it, I will have it. 56 for £7 lasts a while, nice alternative to an over the counter benzo.

So grapefruit
50mg Prometh
700mg DHC
And will the long valium half life potentiate too? Its been a good few hours.
Also whats the benefit of prometh, more tinglyness and warmth is what I am after, I like a nod, but not one that knocks me out cold.

(I know I should not have mixed so many benzos this morning but I know my limits please don't try this guys, and I don't need telling, I'm here to excercise caution)

Ive sipped the last bit of a litre of GF juice, and about to pop a Prometh. By the way, my codeine limits have extended up to 14-1500mg.

Basic question is this all ok if I am fine now and will the Prometh give me more tingly warmth or make me a zombie I want the former? Please help soon,

I know I need at least half hour before poppin' prometh and my extraction ready in 15!

EDIT: I am using 50mg of promethazine.
That used to send me to sleep before I had tolerance to other things. IS that enough??
 
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As an experienced user, have you any idea how soluble DHC is in water? Your dilemma has piqued my interest in rectal administration! :p
 
Thanks mate.

Sounds like you're mixing a lot of downers, albeit spaced out. I have no specific advice other than less is probably more given the amount of potentiation that'll be going on with that mix!

Prometh with weaker opies makes me nod, possibly a bit of extra fuzz. YMMV of course.

Sorry I can't be more help :(
 
mrcientist said:
Thanks mate.

Sounds like you're mixing a lot of downers, albeit spaced out. I have no specific advice other than less is probably more given the amount of potentiation that'll be going on with that mix!

Prometh with weaker opies makes me nod, possibly a bit of extra fuzz. YMMV of course.

Sorry I can't be more help :(
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Help is help, cheers mate,
Yeah was a fair few downers, but a fair few hours ago,

cheers man!

Should have bought an oral syringe in the pharm today, slipped my mind damn!
 
How did it go in the end? Get the gouch you were after?

I love that warm fuzzy opiate feeling, so I truly hope you got to where you wanted to be! =D
 
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