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MDMA 'powder' - Crystaline versus dry powder - quality/strength

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WarChild

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Hi All

I've done a search and found only one topic related which didn't cover my question. Which is this:

In your experience which has generally been better quality - crystaline MDMA or dry powdery MDMA?

I am in Melbourne and the crystaline stuf is considered better 'on the street' but is less common than white MDMA powder.

Both can be cut easily enough - the powder MDMA you could add any number of things, the crystal MDMA you can add MSM which looks crystaline so to some degree the difference between the appearance may be meaningless. And take note I am being specific that it IS MDMA - Not an analogue of any kind. Anyone with reasonable MDMA experience will know if it is MDA/MDEA or others.

However there still seems, in this neck of the woods, that the crystal MDMA is better (or should I say stronger).

MDMA in powder form has become more popular as the pills have in generally been very low quality for quite some time.

Anyone have any theories?


WC
 
Well slighty off topic
But pure crystal mephedrome was bettr than pure powder mephedrome
 
Just same trusted suplier back when it still legal it was that cheap theyed be hard presssed to find something cheaper to cut it with
 
This post is ridiculous. Crystal methylenedioxymethamphetamine can be crushed and appear a powder methylenedioxymethamphetamine and still be no different in its chemical structure or potent regardless of its appearance.

I have two bags here 1g consisting of 3 chunks, and 1g of bottom bag powder. Same mdma no difference whatsoever.

If your refering to dealers powdering thier stuff down, cutting it etc then you are answering your own question.
 
in my experience if it's a powder and not a crystal usually has amphetamine cut with mdma...i know that because my urine was tested by paper chromatography.
 
The state something is in can make a differance even if its same chemical
Because it can affect rate of absorbtion
 
The state when your body absorbs it is going to be solute dissolved in solvent (water) from your saliva and stomach, regardless of its state while in the bag.
 
gymstud said:
The state something is in can make a differance even if its same chemical
Because it can affect rate of absorbtion
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crystals can dissolve in less than 10 seconds, you're still making no sense..


gymstud said:
Just same trusted suplier back when it still legal it was that cheap theyed be hard presssed to find something cheaper to cut it with
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Yeah, I bet it's REAL hard to find salt 8)
 
Right but from prersonal expierance i ordered a gram of cystal mcat and gram if powder mcat from same person
Same mg lines the crystal got me higher
And it was easier to handle and sniffed better
 
Come on bro.. you're putting way too much faith in who your buying from, and who he is buying from, and who is actually making the drug.


Just because it wasn't cut the first time doesn't mean it can't be cut the second time, if you're not getting as high from the same amount and it's harder on the nose than that just strengthens the idea that your stuff was cut with an inactive substance like sugar, salt, MSM or something else.
 
It was before mcat was band in uk i think 2010
Cant mention vendors but it was one of big five
When i say it sniffed better i mean because its more dence in mass
 
It is slightly differnt with mcat thought because the crystal form was re crystsized
Was i think with mdma powder is just crystals broken down into a fine powder
But i was just making a point that it could at least appear more potent when better suited to a cirtain r.o.a.
 
As a fellow Melbournite who only buys crystal, every time I've run into someone with powder their stuff has been nowhere near as good.
 
Something to keep in mind with salt drugs such as MDMA~HCl is the recrystallization is part of the purification of the product.

The clearer and cleaner the crystal the lesser left over reaction trash has made it through to the end product.

Poorly recrystallized MDMA~HCl will not be sharp well defined crystals it will be a brown platelet made in a fashion more akin to setting a mud brick then the neutralization reaction.

Put side by side the brown platelet "moon rock" is noting like MDMA~HCl salt crystals.

The moon rock is commonly adulterated with other powders to make it look more presentable as you can see its not very appealing.

Racemic_MDMA_Crystal_1.jpg
MDMA_Fused_Moonrocks.jpg
 
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cyberius said:
Doesn't matter, they are usually both impure equally.
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How so?

Your statement is illogical, a crystal is judged by its optical clarity.

The uniformed clear recrystallized salts is the outcome of the purification.

How can you even imply that the clear unadulterated salt that has been expertly produced is the same as a product with obvious impunity's.
You can't just put two compounds together and expect a perfect crystal to come out the other end, co-recrystallization just doesn't work that way..

If say MDMA~HCl and a cut like an Alkylbenzylamine such as N-isopropylbenzylamine are put together to recrystallize they form as individuals not as a combined crystal.
Only the two MDMA isomers can co-crystallize on account of there ability to repeat and build a crystal lattice structure so the only thing you can cut MDMA crystals with is MDMA.
 
The crystals on the left are not racemic MDMA, that's for sure. They're pure SOMETHING, but that something isn't racemic MDMA.HCl.
 
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