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muttonchops
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Summary of this thread thus far. Baxter is a cunt, all be it a mentally ill one nicely exploited for shock value. Chemical ali and missus are boring farts but at least show there are people wot are not cunts that take drugs and Mr Z is a dude that apparently isn't in it for the money, even though his business partner Mr Dutchy had $$'s for eyes.....
Anyone notice captain square was left handed?
also, i rekks they were using drug detection equipment supplied by this man
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/may/02/fake-bomb-detector-conman-jailed
Anyone notice captain square was left handed?
also, i rekks they were using drug detection equipment supplied by this man
http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2013/may/02/fake-bomb-detector-conman-jailed
Mailmonkey
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Agree with all of this, except, I thinkProf Z probably made a bit more out of it than he let on....he said something along the lines of how his finances and capital and lifestyle have been scrutinised regularly, and it always seems to match up....
And yeah, i don't believe that drug detection equipment at all, I was thinking about it on delivery today...can anyone with some experience in a lab shed any light on this...is it possible to insert a probe into a random bag of powder and have the exact chemical in seconds? (I didn't click the guardian link muttonchops but assume its the bloke who sold all the bomb "detectors"?
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I saw a program on BBC2 about it, and there is a dedicated team of 2 or 3 people just running the powders they seize at customs through a standard marquis mecke mandelin set of reagents. If it comes up as something they don't quite know, it gets sent off for further testing.
Mailmonkey
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so there is no magic probe that can be stuck into a bag of powder and come up with a vendors nomenclature for a compound.
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There is. It's called my nose.
Mate they have devices which fingerprint each chem and then can match a trace to those fingerprints, it doesn't take long.
Mailmonkey
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wow, so it does exist.
ShopperCheck
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Just finished watching it. All it's made me want to do is visit that drug collection at the hospital.
Failing the quick portable detection units, gas chromatography can also be used.
Failing the quick portable detection units, gas chromatography can also be used.
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Mailmonkey
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am aware of that, just a bit sceptical about that device the customs woman had, stick a probe in a bag, seconds later....5F-AKB-48.!
ShopperCheck
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It's fairly easy if the chemical in question has already been "imprinted" onto the device. Just like an image stored, it checks it for various markers, once done it gives a read out. Things have come a long way since the 1950's, grandad.
Mailmonkey
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they are TOF/MS devices, the sample gets ionised and it measures how long it takes the molecules to travel along a distance in a gas, kind of like GCMS but portable and a lot cheaper to perform. There is also portable raman spectrospy devices which are incredibly fast and efficient, also both types are pretty infallible.
Like you say though though have to have an existing sample in their database, which can be shared among organisations, so if something is completely brand new it will just show up the raw details and won't match it to anything. In which case it would probably get sent off for full analysis in a lab setting.
jancrow
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I don't know why they can't just stick a finger in it and taste it like in Trading Places.
I've only watched about half of this so far but Jesus H Bumba Claat it's depressing.
I've only watched about half of this so far but Jesus H Bumba Claat it's depressing.
innit, paints quite a bleak picture of british society.
jancrow
Bluelighter
Yeah, the 19 yr old with boils all over his face jacking up fuck knows what and staring into the distance is kind of chilling.
muttonchops
Bluelighter
I recks the director was watching requiem for a dream on repeat and self harming whilst editing it
monstanoodle
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There's a Doc. on iplayer about the Cocaine industry's new "capital" being Peru.
It goes through the processes of the leaf-pickers, the "chemists in their labs", how the authorities are trying to stop shit happening, speaking to one of 12 British smugglers who were caught and the balance of the people choosing to grow Coca instead of other crops because they can make more money for their families and improve their quality of life.
It's interesting in some parts, but a lot of it you've likely seen on other docs. but it's still definitely worth a watch.
And, next week, it's a look into the world of "Yaba" in Thailand (the tabs of Methamphetamine and Caffeine) and how fairly young kids who are taking it.
It goes through the processes of the leaf-pickers, the "chemists in their labs", how the authorities are trying to stop shit happening, speaking to one of 12 British smugglers who were caught and the balance of the people choosing to grow Coca instead of other crops because they can make more money for their families and improve their quality of life.
It's interesting in some parts, but a lot of it you've likely seen on other docs. but it's still definitely worth a watch.
And, next week, it's a look into the world of "Yaba" in Thailand (the tabs of Methamphetamine and Caffeine) and how fairly young kids who are taking it.