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The Phantom DMT Method

phantomcosmonaut

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So many people have trouble with efficiently using DMT. Most methods are very inefficient. As a result most people give up with this incredible drug, which I've seen happen way too often. Its my favorite drug and I would like everyone to experience a breakthrough with it. This method is fairly simple compared to others. It's the only one I've tried that worked consistently (with experience it works every time) and its the most efficient. I 'invented' it in collaboration with my friend who first showed me this technique my first time, by accident, because we had no other way to smoke the DMT. Maybe it's just us who have had such great luck with this method, and maybe it's actually shitty, but I have to share it anyway in case it is as great as when I use it.

The best piece to use is a bubbler (dry) -because the downstem allows the DMT to slowly drip down and have a nice controlled distance from the flame to vaporize-, but a large pipe will work almost as well. The pipe and bubbler work way better if they have large, norrow, deep -or any combination of the three- bowls. This allows the flame to sit still in the bowl and the DMT to have enough space from the flame. Bongs, joints, small pipes, and even most vaporizers don't do the job nearly as well or at all. You'll need the piece (again, no water), a pipe screen (it actually doesn't drip much through the screen - it holds it in place mostly and allows for a more controlled temperature), 40-60mg of DMT (the better you get with this, the less you need to breakthrough, I usually only need ~40mg at this point), any disposable lighter (preferably the ones with adjustable flames so it can fit the size of your bowl as needed), COMPLETE SILENCE IS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY...no one can talk and any background noise may ground you, another person to help you is strongly recommended, and a bed is the best thing to be on for DMT. Considering the last three things a bedroom is the best setting.

Okay so you have ALL of the necessary components. You start by putting the screen in the bowl as deep and tight as it can fit. Then put the DMT right on there. Your friend holds the bottom of the pipe for you and lights it, as you hold the upper part and the carb to hit it at your own pace. When lighting: the flame MUST NOT TOUCH THE DMT AT ALL. If you see embers or a fire then it touched and you lost a bit. Hold the lighter so that it hovers DIRECTLY above the DMT, it may even seem like it's just about touching it. This is where the deep/large/narrow bowl comes in handy, so there's more room in the bowl between the DMT and the flame. The person lighting it needs to pay full attention to the flame, if you notice it touch then pull away just a bit, if no vapor starts to form within ~3 seconds (it does NOT form immediately - it melts first then vapor quickly fills the pipe) then get a bit closer. You will easily know the difference between smoke and vapor, the smoke is extremely harsh while the vapor feels almost like nothing unless you take too big of a hit. Do not try to get it all in one hit, it's futile. Take as many hits as you possibly can just like this. DO NOT STOP. This is where your friend comes in handy, if you breakthrough hard enough you lose all connection with reality and they can just take the pipe from you when you basically pass out. Usually you can take 3 average hits, but I've taken up to 10 smaller ones...don't try for big ones. Hold each hit in for about 10 seconds, if you exhale and there is vapor that comes out then you didn't hold it long enough, all of it should be absorbed in your lungs or you are losing some...this is very important; the longer held hits give you MUCH more and you will notice the difference with experience. The friend assists you with not only taking the pipe once you're done, but they can also shut the lights off for you which does intensify the OEVs especially in a minor/pre- breakthrough. When I am the one assisting I always meditate while the person is out in preparation for my turn, it makes it more relaxed. Laying down on DMT is amazing feeling, trust me just try it, and if you're afraid of getting caught by someone in your house don't worry too much, just be cautious. As long as you vaporized it the smell is almost unnoticeable even within the room and it goes away in just a few minutes.

Well that's it. Any questions, suggestions, or doubts are welcomed and appreciated. If I seemed to miss something please let me know. If you do something a bit different and it works just as well or better then I'd be glad to take the advice and add it to my OP. Enjoy your trip through this strange dimension and try to get a nice souvenir while you're there, it'll stay with you forever.
 
So basically the miracle technique is just 'smoke it in a bong'

The technique that I just described in my OP? No...I dont think you read my post...a bong will not work at all. And this technique isn't "just smoking it", you need everything I mentioned for this to work and you must light it properly; vaporizing it, NOT smoking it.
 
The technique that I just described in my OP? No...I dont think you read my post...a bong will not work at all. And this technique isn't "just smoking it", you need everything I mentioned for this to work and you must light it properly; vaporizing it, NOT smoking it.

So what everyone that doesn't sandwich says to do?
 
Put a screen into a small bong, soak melted freebase into it and subject it to the heat of a lighter flame (but not the flame itself) while sucking. Is that a fair summary?

I would call this method 'smoking DMT in a bong' only I would use 10 screens and not 1.

Next time you try this method, try putting water in the bong.
 
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Next time you try this method, try putting water in the bong.

Why? If all you're inhaling is DMT vapor then nothing would get filtered into the water except DMT vapor. You'll just lose a bit. But if you're actually igniting the DMT crystals and smoke is forming, then yeah I guess this would help, that's not the right way to do it though, you need to vaporize.
 
Why? If all you're inhaling is DMT vapor then nothing would get filtered into the water except DMT vapor. You'll just lose a bit. But if you're actually igniting the DMT crystals and smoke is forming, then yeah I guess this would help, that's not the right way to do it though, you need to vaporize.

Even though it's only vapor, it's still heated "air" and going to be rougher than without water. IMO the amount lost in water is negligible compared the benefits of a smoother hit.
 
Dmt freebase is insoluble in water
When it's vaporized it could definitely be soluble in water or one(or more) of the byproducts. Chemicals act differently and degrade at high temperatures. DMT when heated too much breaks down into multiple byproducts, just the right temp gets you vaporization instead. As is the case with pretty much every chemical I've ever vaporized before. In my experience (one experience @ 40mg of unknown quality freebase in 3 hits) even a lightbulb vape can work for dmt, you just need a jet lighter / propane/butane torch at the right distance. When using lightbulb vapes in the past I've easily inhaled 100mg worth of chemicals (not dmt specifically at 100mg) in 3-4 large hits. With the right amount of heat from a hot flame and a source of constant cool air flow will make the DMT vaporize extremely quick. Quick enough to allow a breakthrough dose.

The only real difference I see between this method and the sandwiched between weed method is you didn't sandwich the dmt just kept it on top and didn't use weed, I've done that in the past with a whole lot of different drugs, not all worked some worked extremely well. Simply pack enough weed to cover the bowl hole and enough that it won't snap through losing your precious material and then drop x y or z Chemical on top. Using hempwick is a lot better in my opinion 1) because you're not inhaling lighter fuel residues 2) the flame isn't as hot as the flame from a lighter so you can hold it to the dmt closer. It's a lot easier to vaporize chemicals in this method with hemp wick in my experience, that and hempwick doesn't get hot and burn your finger when you go to light it again because you forgot it's hot as fuck

I need to go bust out my lightbulb vape and try to breakthrough with it one of these days. Oh just to clarify I've had other multiple experiences with dmt besides the lightbulb one was with a titanium nail (didn't breakthrough at 100mg so it's probably not efficient or my fritted disc perc bong just bubbles too much it does for concentrates if you put too much water in the bong and take a huge glob of wax the bong filters so much you won't even be high (you will but not as high as a dab that size through a less filtering piece) And a couple others with just sandwiching the weed in a pipe
 
I thought this was a very basic and commonly known method
I do this but with a water bong so I can see the smoke fill the chamber and can do it myself
It is made much easier with a jet lighter so you can hold the flame a few inches away and as soon as you see vapor rise from the bowl you start toking.
The downside to this however is you can make your hit far too big and if you start coughing I find it really throws off the quality of the trip.
 
DMT freebase is insoluble in water no matter whether it's in solid, liquid or gaseous state.

No offence Titan7 but you demonstrated in another thread that you haven't the slightest idea how to vaporise DMT properly. Using a blow torch and red-hot titanium might lead to "biproducts" (which incidentally, are also likely to be insoluble in water) but most people would consider the aim to be to actually ingest DMT, not to pyrolise it to inactive compounds.
 
Pictorial coming soon,stay tuned.I'm smoking it from a plastic bottle and it gives me breakthrough with lower than 50mg doses.
 
Not sure why my posts were deleted. They were obviously sarcastic. Next time I'll it in italics.
 
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