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noob 25i-nbome questions?!

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vine000

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Hi,

I've just recently discovered I can buy a ridiculous 5g of 25i-nbome for very cheap, which then after researching is the doses are only as low as 500 micrograms. Upon researching, people are only talking about blotters and using it as a solution. Can the powder itself not be snorted?
If so, how is it even possible to measure such a low dose in powder, scales on the intenret only really get down to like 0.01g and that would be so inaccurate anyway unless I was in a chemistry lab.

Or really is it unsafe to be selling/using it as powder and rather I should make the solution and put it on blotters. Anyone have a recommended guide here on how to do that? I was researching but a lot of people have different ways so I'd rather someone tell me which one to use since I wouldn't wanna screw anything up.

Cheers

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making blotters isnt reccomended.

we use a solution for the very reason that snorting so little powder is impossible to accurately eye out. 20mg dissolved in 2ml gives 1mg per .1ml, which you can easily measure with a syringe

the powder is only as unsafe as the person handling it.

its true that there isnt really one definitive guide on how to do it. I just pieced it together from all the threads there are to be honest lol
 
Yeah --there isn't a guide to do it because no guide is _safe_

Not recommended; even if you're careful you can easily #@#@ it up and have drastic consequences.
 
infantannihilator said:
making blotters isnt reccomended.

we use a solution for the very reason that snorting so little powder is impossible to accurately eye out. 20mg dissolved in 2ml gives 1mg per .1ml, which you can easily measure with a syringe
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ohh of course i see. what solution is used -- water?
 
Do not try snorting powder. People have died doing this.

Measure out a known quantity and dissolve it in vodka to make a 2mg/ml solution (eg. 200mg in 100ml of vodka). Then measure out doses using an insulin syringe with no needle.

If you choose to make blotters, make sure you label them clearly with substance and dose. A laser printer or photocopier can be used for this,
 
I made my solution 5mg/ml, such that 2 units was 1mg. I can only really take 2 units up the nose before I start feeling drippy, so thats why I went with this particular concentration. I also watered down my vodka so it wasn't as high of an abv %, down to 10% iirc. Whether this is too low of an etoh concentration I have yet to find out, but will eventually I suppose.
 
Ooh thanks guys :)

why isn't making blotters recommended? what concentration should the blotter be if i were to do it and how much do i put on each blotter?
if i made a 1mg/ml solution (dissolved in vodka) and put 1ml on each blotter square using a pipette carefully, would this not be acceptable? is this too simple..

Livinginthealps said:
You clearly don't know what your doing. So why don't you pass on this before you hurt yourself or worse someone else....
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if your "advice" is not telling me anything helpful then yes there is a risk to me hurting someone because duh i don't know what i'm doing, clearly why i'm asking.
 
Getting the dose right on blotter is pretty complicated, if you have to ask then it's probably better to try a different carrier (e.g individually dose a piece of candy) or go for nasal. (with this compound I'd recommend the latter) With a spray it's pretty convenient and seems accurate enough.

Just find out how much of a solution the spray exerts per spray. You do that by measuring out an <x> amount of water, divide by the amount of sprays you can do before it runs out, and then you create a solution accordingly using the volumetric dosing technique (so that you get ~250ug per spray)

EDIT: And yeah, zombywoof is right. I bought 250mg of this a year ago, I've done this a lot (abused it a bit even) and still I'm not at half of my stash. I think you'll have a hard time getting rid of 10000 doses if you're gonna do it legitimately, though these nasal sprays for a reasonable price could go over well enough. If you do (but seriously, don't), then please hand out proper instructions. You should especially note that there can be evaporation, which can be very dangerous, and that it's absolutely not a good idea to take this beyond 2mg. In other words, this compound is just not very good as a street drug. Those that want to try it, can. Those that just want to get fucked up shouldn't try it.
 
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unless you have a lab you have no business playing around with 5 grams of any kind of NBOMe IMO.

DO you really want to sell this stuff? or do you just want to taste it and have the ability to give some friends an experience. Stick with 50 to 100 mg bags of 25I powder if you want the powder. Can't really blame a person who wants to go with the powder, the purity is there and if they know what they are doing it is the easiest way to be safe


NEVER try to eye ball anything though. Get a good scale, honestly if you plan to profit from this stuff, I think it is just wrong.


I can tell you on a scale a bump of 1mg of 25I is probably about the diameter of a small pinhead, so the difference between 1mg vs .5 mg vs 2mg of powder is almost impossible to detect.

At one point someone said something about doing a small line of this stuff. I don't see how 1mg could be placed into a liner, a bump is the best way to describe it and like someone already said it is the easiest way to overdose. Unless you plan on bringing a handy microgram scale around with you to party up...... and to my knowledge at least the one I have doesn't fit into my back pocket . My scale is a PROPER microgram scale, with a glass enclosure, because at those vales a breaze and effect the platform that is used to weigh the material



THe best way to handle the powder is to :
weigh a small glass jar.... record the weight, Do this several times to make sure your scale is working properly, a few bit of variance are ok as long as they are all under 1mg IMO. take some good Vodka, drop it into your vendor supplied containter get all the powder in solution then pour into the jar...... in a short amount of time the vodka will evap, when you weight the jar with dried out reformed powder at the bottom well a simple bit of math will show you how much powder you really have.


If you have a baggy with 50mg measure out oh say 20 mL of Vodka, it will evap quick enough and give you the ability to safely get all the contents out of the bag. Best bet is to do this in a bathroom or in the kitchen near a sink in case some of the solution get spilled.


Personally I would be a bit nervous messing around with anything more then 50 mg's at a time. 1 gram to 5 grams is more then enough to raise the analogue act up for 2CI aka smiles. 50 mg's is nothing, smaller then a single pill, it is pretty much a no brainer that 50 mgs is going to pass through the mail with no issues IMO I mean really, we are talking something that a court of law would consider a trace finding. 1gram to 5 grams may raise an eyebrow or two if discovered and brought into question regarding contents.

I agree with the general statement that this makes for a lousy street drug, taking too much of this can lead to life threatening vascoconstriction which will put a person in the hospital rapidly.
 
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enh.. they send kilos in the mail my friend. they aren't going to bat an eye at a gram of whatever you're buying. theyll confiscate it if anything.

then again the us and the dea do surprise us all..
 
We're not really here to help you manufacture or sell drugs so you can all keep the urge to discuss that aspect of the issue to yourselves.

That said, from a HR point of view I must say Vine000 should really reconsider everything including the fact that this compound can be physically and psychologically harmful and is tricky to handle because of the potency. It does not belong in possession of a noob, even if that person has the presence of mind and honesty to call themselves that. Especially with this quantity which is just way too much leaving you little or almost no error margin.

You could easily die by inhaling a puff airborne 25I-NBOMe dust while working with it.

If spread personally instead of via websites it is incredibly likely that a lot of it will at some point be sold as LSD, making you indirectly responsible for the frustration of countless trippers at best or dangerous incidents at worst.
 
yeah, that's why a lab setting is kind of a necessity, clean room that can be wiped down properly, proper PPE such as a dust mask, eye protection, and disposable clothes for anything in the 500 mg range IMO.


I don't care how careful you are when you open up a baggy with that much powder in it, some may get into the air. A tiny amount such as 50mg at the bottom of a lil bag is a lot easier and safer to work with that a the same baggy loaded up with 10 X to 20 X that amount.
 
vine000 said:
why isn't making blotters recommended?
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Because people think its difficult when its not. And there are certain people here who like to discourage NBOMe use in order to promote their own LSD interests. But clearly label your blotters so they can't be passed off as something else.

vine000 said:
what concentration should the blotter be if i were to do it and how much do i put on each blotter?
if i made a 1mg/ml solution (dissolved in vodka) and put 1ml on each blotter square using a pipette carefully, would this not be acceptable? is this too simple..
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Now you're going to have to engage your brain. Take a given amount of your chosen paper, see how much liquid it takes to soak it and calculate mg/ml from there. It's not very hard. I worked it out myself. Just remember to dry it flat so that you get even distribution.

Also you are going to need to do some reading about complexing.


kidklmx said:
Getting the dose right on blotter is pretty complicated
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Really? Are you stating that from experience? I worked it out in about 30 seconds using simple division and multiplication. Complicated would be needing to use calculus.
 
Sure but if you have to ask, you're prone to make errors in the process. Which is not a good idea with the sale of these compounds. I thought the verdict of the laying blotter thread was that we were not going to pre-chew everything for the people that ask, but only confirm the calculations and review the technique they use
 
Can we expect an explanatory reaction before this thread is closed?
 
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