Dose - 50mg 2c-b

[SheEpYW0lf]

Hello readers.

Basically I wanted to know if anyone has experience with slightly higher doses of 2c-b, primarily in the 45-55mg range (Oral dosage).

I personally have done 2c-b 3 times in total.
1st time: 20mg (Orally)
2nd time: 20mg (Nasally)
3rd time: 20mg (Nasally)

I felt that my first experience was very mild and I barely had any visuals at all.
The two other experiences I'd say were about twice as powerful as the first one.
2c-b was the first psychedelic drug I did, so I didn't really have anything to compare it with.
2 years and a lot of experience later, I can compare my experiences with quite a few other psychedelic experiences and must say that they were indeed pretty mild.

I feel like trying a 50mg oral dose 2c-b next time, to crank up the intensity a bit.
I'm not too much for snorting it, as it is possibly one of the most painful drugs I've had up my nose.

How does the dosage sound? Will the experience be remarkably more powerful than my previous ones?

Hope you all have a good day in whatever universe you're in.

 

[DickTate]

How does the dosage sound?

It sounds like too much. The 2C-* Phenethylamines usually have a pretty steep dosage-response curve. Meaning 50mg won't be twice as strong as 25mg but exponentially much more potent.
I'd suggest trying ~30mg orally and if that does not suffice, increasing it per 5mg the next time.
Have fun, 2c-b is a very pleasant substance

 

[.:Holy::Toast:.]

First time I did 2cb I did 30mg, it was decently potent.
I'd try a lower dose first then titrate up

As well 2cb isn't strong in the visuals department, so if you want to do enough to match the visuals from LSD, your body load and the other effects might become far too strong once you reach that point

 

[Morninggloryseed]

20mg causes a mellow ++ for me. 36mg is full +++ land, with potential to give ++++ moments. I'd go for 50mg too!

 

[ZFC]

One of my most intense trips ever was a nexus flip taken years ago, on 120 mg MDMA, followed by 48 mg 2C-B. This is the only time I have been able to get DMT-like CEV without DMT.
It was definitely more intense, blissful and enlightening than 5 tabs of acid.

 

[SheEpYW0lf]

One of my most intense trips ever was a nexus flip taken years ago, on 120 mg MDMA, followed by 48 mg 2C-B. This is the only time I have been able to get DMT-like CEV without DMT.
It was definitely more intense, blissful and enlightening than 5 tabs of acid.

Sounds exactly like what I want to experience. Was there any discomfort?

 

[ZFC]

Sounds exactly like what I want to experience. Was there any discomfort?

Not that I can remember. It was just pure bliss all the way through. It has been some time now, but I think I spent the day before carefully studying Leary's "The Psychedelic Experience", I was very much into that then. Took the MDMA around midnight, went outside for a very long walk in a green valley nearby where I lived. Took the 2C-B around 3 AM. The visuals came up really really fast. I lied down under a big oak tree and closed my eyes and BANG, direct into DMT space, populated by the same "entities". After a while I got scared somebody would see me and think I was a weirdo so I walked back home. The vegetation around me was looking so REAL, so deep. The yellow flowers looked like they were pointing at me, and looked "more 3D than 3D" (think about the effect you get when a rod is pointed towards a 3D camera in one of these movies you must watch with stereoscopic glasses). Rest of the night was pure erotic bliss.

 

[Morninggloryseed]

2C-B and MDMA is EXQUISITE and sexy. Can't wait to try that one when I am not alone!

 

[.:Holy::Toast:.]

I'd like to note that 50mg is not nearly as insane of a dose as people think.
For lots of people it definitely might be, but maybe not for an experienced hard head.
2cb had the advantage of not having near as steep of a dose response curve as say 2cp where 2mg could be he difference between a fairly strong trip and strong psychedelic dissociation.
That's also the shitty part since you have to buy that much more to get a stronger trip

EDIT: post #420 hehehe

 

[Morninggloryseed]

^^^^

You get a blue belt for the 420th post.

/me raises his bottled tap water to Mr. Toast.

 

[SheEpYW0lf]

I'd like to note that 50mg is not nearly as insane of a dose as people think.
For lots of people it definitely might be, but maybe not for an experienced hard head.
2cb had the advantage of not having near as steep of a dose response curve as say 2cp where 2mg could be he difference between a fairly strong trip and strong psychedelic dissociation.
That's also the shitty part since you have to buy that much more to get a stronger trip

EDIT: post #420 hehehe

That's what I had been thinking. I personally thought all of my previous 2c-b experiences were pretty "meh".
Not much to it really, they simply had no impact at all compared to other experiences I've had.

 

[Toz]

I snorted 55mg 2c-b and had alot of n2o at a rave on my 21:st birthday (someone had brought a big medical canister). I had to hold onto my girlfriend so I wouldn't get lost in all the visuals for a while Several times I was about to wonder out into the forest and get lost lol. Anyway it was a great experience :D

 

[Salute my shorts]

I say the same thing to everybody, snort your 2c-b. Its not that is a bit more intense when snorted, its like a completely different drug in a good way and better in every aspect, the 5 minutes of pain in your nose is worth it.

I've never snorted 55mgs at once, but one night I snorted 3 25mg doses spread out over 12 hours then a 20mg dose of 2c-e to end the night, needless to say it was a fantastic night.

 

[SheEpYW0lf]

I say the same thing to everybody, snort your 2c-b. Its not that is a bit more intense when snorted, its like a completely different drug in a good way and better in every aspect, the 5 minutes of pain in your nose is worth it.

I've never snorted 55mgs at once, but one night I snorted 3 25mg doses spread out over 12 hours then a 20mg dose of 2c-e to end the night, needless to say it was a fantastic night.

5 minutes?
We were 6 guys crying for 40 minutes when snorting it. Not going to happen again.

 

[Salute my shorts]

yea 5 or ten minutes tops for me, it burns but its worth it. The only two drugs I've tried where the pain is just not worth it is 4-meo-pcp because you need to snort at least 250mgs to get near a hole and it lasts at least 45 mins to an hour, plus I think it burns a little more than the 2c-x's. And the other is 4f-a, the burn is worse than the 2c-x's though the burn goes away in 2-3 minutes the pain isn't worth the effects it gives and 4fa snorted while more stimulating than taken orally, oral administration is much more euphoric.

 

[SheEpYW0lf]

yea 5 or ten minutes tops for me, it burns but its worth it. The only two drugs I've tried where the pain is just not worth it is 4-meo-pcp because you need to snort at least 250mgs to get near a hole and it lasts at least 45 mins to an hour, plus I think it burns a little more than the 2c-x's. And the other is 4f-a, the burn is worse than the 2c-x's though the burn goes away in 2-3 minutes the pain isn't worth the effects it gives and 4fa snorted while more stimulating than taken orally, oral administration is much more euphoric.

Would I have to be snorting 30mg or so then? In order to achieve approximately the same level of trippyness as 50mg orally would?
I've also thought about taking MDMA beforehand. Do you think the MDMA would lessen the pain?

Usually I can't feel any pain while on MDMA, so I imagine it would work to some extent?

 

[Salute my shorts]

Would I have to be snorting 30mg or so then? In order to achieve approximately the same level of trippyness as 50mg orally would?
I've also thought about taking MDMA beforehand. Do you think the MDMA would lessen the pain?

Usually I can't feel any pain while on MDMA, so I imagine it would work to some extent?

I'd start out with 30 and see how you're feeling for the first 30-45 mins and if you're not where you want to be then I'd go for the other 20 to reach your sweet spot

I've never combined 2c-b and mdma but I've done mdma and 2c-e before, I started out with a smaller dose of mdma, around 65-70mgs since I was doing it with a friend and we only had around 140-150 mgs so we split it, so at about the 2 1/2 hour mark we each did 20 mgs of 2ce and I did notice it did take the sting away a little bit but it still did burn. Great combo, made the come down a bit more rough but also made the positive after glow last longer.

 

[TangerinO]

My crew had a little bag of 2C-B, like maybe 300mgs and we would just dip our fingers and have some that way.

Well I had a bunch of really mild experiences, and came to the conclusion that 2C-B was just not that potent, relatively safe and almost like psychedelic drugs Lite or something.

Anyway had a little bit too much last time, and definitely will never eat 2C-B again without weighing it first (not a bad experience, but unexpectedly intense for sure) Another friend did a very big line of unknown quantity against everyones wishes and advice, he tripped EXTREMELY hard.

Seems to be nice and mild and then you hit a certain threshold and you go from 0 - 10 damn rapidly.

 

[Deinonychus]

Basically I wanted to know if anyone has experience with slightly higher doses of 2c-b, primarily in the 45-55mg range (Oral dosage).

I feel like trying a 50mg oral dose 2c-b next time, to crank up the intensity a bit.
I'm not too much for snorting it, as it is possibly one of the most painful drugs I've had up my nose.

How does the dosage sound? Will the experience be remarkably more powerful than my previous ones?

I saygto for it. 2C-B is very friendly, it's hard to have a bad trip on it, and I think that if you're considering such a dosage then you're probably confident in your ability to experience psychedelic states safely. And in turn if that is the case, that dosage should be great for you (certainly it was great for me, I've taken it higher even, but I recommend keeping it to 50 mg and no more for this initial high dose experiment). I will add that if you can find 2C-B hydrobromide, instead of the hydrochloride salt, snorting it goes from totally impossible from pain to just a short stinging sensation.

It sounds like too much. The 2C-* Phenethylamines usually have a pretty steep dosage-response curve. Meaning 50mg won't be twice as strong as 25mg but exponentially much more potent.
I'd suggest trying ~30mg orally and if that does not suffice, increasing it per 5mg the next time.
Have fun, 2c-b is a very pleasant substance

Except that the dose response curve for 2C-B isn't nearly so steep and curvy as it is for other PEAs, such as 2C-E or any of the 2C-T-X series. Additionally it's pretty physiologically benign.

That's what I had been thinking. I personally thought all of my previous 2c-b experiences were pretty "meh".
Not much to it really, they simply had no impact at all compared to other experiences I've had.

It sucks that the aforementioned hydrobromide salt, 2C-B HBr, isn't really sold specifically, people just say its 2C-B, not specifying the salt, probably because they don't know what salt it is. Luckily I know the source of my material, and thus I am assured it is the HBr salt. You really should see if you can find any of this salt, or potentially turn your existing stuff into freebase, so as to then convert it back into a different salt that is much less painful.

I say this because really for me 2C-B is one of my absolute favorite psychedelics, but it needs to be insufflated. The few times I've used it orally I was a bit doses pointed myself. The duration is much longer that way, there's a long come-up period, and the peak is not as powerful with the plateau being pretty mile as well. These aspects I find are all pretty much independent of dose. But, they're all things that are fixed by insufflating it, so if it is at all possible, I recommend that you re-salt as something other than HCl so you can experience how much better it is via the intranasal route.

 

[chaosbydesign]

I'd like to note that 50mg is not nearly as insane of a dose as people think.
For lots of people it definitely might be, but maybe not for an experienced hard head.

You say "experienced hard head" as if the two terms "experienced" and "hard head" go together.

Someone can certainly be one but not the other. In fact, I don't even see how the two are related. A lot of the most experienced (meaning, have tripped often and can successfully integrate their experiences into their everyday lives) psychedelic users I know don't need doses on the highest end because they can take moderate doses and bring themselves the rest of the way there. Cool! And then there are just people who have a high tolerance... *shrug* Nothing odd about that either.

Sorry, just thought that your post had the potential to be a bit misleading.

It sounds like the OP has a high tolerance for this substance based on the post, and I've definitely known of people taking 50mgs of 2c-b before..
. So, sounds like a good dose to try for the OP to me... and we know that it isn't unsafe based on the research.