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Regional Pill / MDMA Dicussion v...Nothing to see here!

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Is it just me or is there something very strange about the pills being tested on Saferparty. In the last 2 months both the Green Rolexes and Green Heineken Stars show up in their tests as being High content MDMA then appear in the Northern Ireland and Scotland as dodgy PMA pills??? (Article on BBC Scotland states the Green Heineken Stars seized in Aberdeen had PMA and 'other Class C' substances in them) Is there a possibility somebody is getting good ones tested then selling on the PMA versions?? Is there also any chance that the alternative precursor being used now is resulting in so much PMA as it is not being converted back properly??


Just a thought.
 
I know that PMA can be made accidentally, by using the wrong precursor, which makes me hopeful that people aren't purposely producing this shit. The people that press the pills aren't necessarily the people that make the 'MDMA', and they could be totally unaware that they have PMA... I really hope that's the case. The people selling them, on the other hand, should be fucking shot.
 
Treacle said:
I know that PMA can be made accidentally, by using the wrong precursor, which makes me hopeful that people aren't purposely producing this shit. The people that press the pills aren't necessarily the people that make the 'MDMA', and they could be totally unaware that they have PMA... I really hope that's the case. The people selling them, on the other hand, should be fucking shot.
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I think it does make sense, being sold dodgy precursor I think... the mortal kombats had a trace amount of PMA in then, for such a big presser there is no chance they would put that in there, one of the biggest presses in europe they dont need to cut corners. Also happened with them NO1's the green ones, they had a trusty press before that in different colours then the green one is released with MDMA and PMA, few weeks later they are completley off the market and they bring out a fresh batch with 180mg in them.

I think the ones that just contain PMA/PMMA alone though, the people will know about it.
 
I'm sure not all of these 'businessmen' will try their product, and just trust their supplier. I don't get the point in killing your customers.
 
Major pill pressers aren't really killing any of their customers. No pill presser is selling PMA pills to someone who is eating them. They're probably selling them by the hundreds of thousands to some other shady fuck who is moving them around & selling them to more shady fucks, who are in turn selling them to more shady fuckers, who are then selling them to wee Davie, who punts them to a few clubbers & kills his customers.

At the top few tiers of this supply chain, if all they care about is profit, then it doesn't matter what they're punting really. Sell a few million dodgy swedgers, put your feet up on a beach somewhere long before the first poor cunt drops dead in a club from taking one.

Of course, I'm just speculating wildly here. I don't actually know. I'd like to think that people with the capability to produce millions of pills and the MDMA to fill them can tell the fucking difference between PMA & MDMA.
 
parttime crackhead said:
Major pill pressers aren't really killing any of their customers. No pill presser is selling PMA pills to someone who is eating them. They're probably selling them by the hundreds of thousands to some other shady fuck who is moving them around & selling them to more shady fucks, who are in turn selling them to more shady fuckers, who are then selling them to wee Davie, who punts them to a few clubbers & kills his customers.

At the top few tiers of this supply chain, if all they care about is profit, then it doesn't matter what they're punting really. Sell a few million dodgy swedgers, put your feet up on a beach somewhere long before the first poor cunt drops dead in a club from taking one.

Of course, I'm just speculating wildly here. I don't actually know. I'd like to think that people with the capability to produce millions of pills and the MDMA to fill them can tell the fucking difference between PMA & MDMA.
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I think you're probably right there. I know there's plenty more steps than presser to consumer. It's just that if mong presser receives batch of 'MDMA' from manufacturer, and quickly presses it, then gets rid, then it could be a genuine mistake. Highly stupid not to test the stuff, of course. Or, maybe a couple of people try one, decide they feel a bit like MDMA, and then they're out of the door. I don't know how the quality control department works, at such an operation. ;) I just can't see how continuing to produce PMA is anything but attempted murder, and no one wants to go down for that. :/ The police are all over this, which is refreshing. Surely, some people in power must be thinking 'if this stuff was regulated...'. Think I'm dreaming here.
 
Perhaps Mr MDMA seller is sometimes a lot scarier than Mr Pill Presser/Seller. Pill guy buys a shitload of "MDMA", tests it, turns out to be PMA, MDMA guy tells him to get fucked when he wants to return it. So the pill guy just presses it up anyway & hopes for the best.

Edit - And the MDMA guy has done that in the first place because he got stung with a load of shoddy non-returnable precursor.
 
Fizzers said:
Hi

Is it just me or is there something very strange about the pills being tested on Saferparty. In the last 2 months both the Green Rolexes and Green Heineken Stars show up in their tests as being High content MDMA then appear in the Northern Ireland and Scotland as dodgy PMA pills??? (Article on BBC Scotland states the Green Heineken Stars seized in Aberdeen had PMA and 'other Class C' substances in them) Is there a possibility somebody is getting good ones tested then selling on the PMA versions?? Is there also any chance that the alternative precursor being used now is resulting in so much PMA as it is not being converted back properly??


Just a thought.
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MDMA Rolex is not Green http://www.saferparty.ch/tl_files/images/download/file/Warnungen_PDF_2013/MDMA_hoch_Juni_2013_4.pdf

MDMA Star is not Green http://www.saferparty.ch/tl_files/images/download/file/Warnungen_PDF_2013/MDMA_hoch_Juli_2013.pdf
 
Whats those Q Dance lites like then? Might be getting a few this week
 
So this "rola cola" MDMA thats kicking about that I saw mentioned a few pages ago, whos actually tried it? Whats it like compared to the normal stuff thats about, worth paying that little bit extra?

Almost stocked now ready for the festivities.
 
jasono said:
anyone know anything about blue rockstars?
have a R on them so there not blue stars
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Possibly the same as blue ghosts.... ~130mg MDMA


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Been offered some yellow blockbusters anybody tried these? Going for a tenner each
 
parttime crackhead said:
Perhaps Mr MDMA seller is sometimes a lot scarier than Mr Pill Presser/Seller. Pill guy buys a shitload of "MDMA", tests it, turns out to be PMA, MDMA guy tells him to get fucked when he wants to return it. So the pill guy just presses it up anyway & hopes for the best.

Edit - And the MDMA guy has done that in the first place because he got stung with a load of shoddy non-returnable precursor.
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All those positions would be able to take the hit on a non-returnable disaster like that surely. Its not in anyone in the "legit" MDMA markets interest for this to be happening.

Bad news travels up the chain too.
 
I agree with Crackface, but also agree with this. I reckon these PMA pills are coming from a bunch of evil cunts, and any legit MDMA/pill manufacturer would be appalled by such a thing. Killing a ton of your customers is not a good plan, when you're always doing something highly illegal, as it is. Does anyone know the doses of the PMA pills? I'm guessing the green Rolexes are pretty strong.

Why the fuck is MDMA illegal? I know the answer, I'm just reinforcing the point. It's very fucking safe, there's enough data to show that. It's PMA that's ruining the reputation of ecstasy/MDMA.
 
been offered yellow blockbusters but havin heard any reports, yeah acid4blood i think there meant to around the same mark il know this weekend and report back
 
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