Bupe HELP Please!!! Took 16mg Suboxone and hate it. It is helping w/d but when...

[laschenova]

HELP Please!!! 1st dose suboxone, SO DEPRESSED!!! WHAT DO I DO?

When can I take roxi again? Or does it get any better? Will I feel better when I get used to it? This is my 1st dose of suboxone in over 5 years. I waited about 30 hours since any opiate dose, and had waited over 48 since any roxi until taking the two 8mg sub strips spaced an hour apart. Should I take another strip?

I am going insane...This stuff is making me very very very depressed. I am considering a mental hospital or going to a bar and getting hammered. I feel like taking all the non opiate drugs I have in a desperate attemt to feel ok.

I have weed, xanax, adderall, 2FMA and 4FA. I wish I had some molly. I wish I had anyone in my life I could coinfide in...I am so emotional and scared. Temted to go out to a bar and see if some random sex would help even...ugh

I was on about 200-300 mg of roxi a day. I want to get off and had bought 10 strips of 8/2 suboxone about a week ago to save. Well I ran out of my oxy, I was so sick and caved assumed my source was no good for oxy anymore. if I had known I was about to get some roxi I would not have resorted to using teh sub. I got the oxy like 10 mins after I got the oxy!!! but he w/d were killing me. UUUGGGGH nOW i HAVE 10 30 mg BLUES

I want to get back on the oxy and taper from it instead. This Suboxone stuff is very depressing and makes me sleepy and sad as hell. Since I took the 2 strips of 8mg suboxone today, one at 5 pm EST and then one at 6 pm est when can I take a 30 mg Oxy? What can i take in the meantime to feel OK?

The suboxone relieved the pain and chills, I was unable to move before I took it, was just in bed dosed on Xanax and immodium. So no more chills and I have a little energy. BUT I feel horribly depressed and kinda suicidal. .

Thank you so very much, I have been searching the faq and can't find answers, but am so emotional and sad. I don't know what to do. I hate detox and rehab hospitals, but if I go I would rather go while still on oxy and let a professional dose suboxone or anything and be monitored....Is sever depression normal?

 

[StartedHydro]

If u took subling at 16 mg, prob a solid two to three days before you will even remotely feel the effects of Oxy. Buprenorphine's binding affinity is magnitudes stronger than Oxy, with a long half life. I'd say at least 48 hours anything before that would in my opi be wasting.

If you give buprenorphine time your body will adjust and you will have a lot easier time managing opiate addiction and tapering off. Buprenorphine IMO is about equal to 60-90 mg of oxycodone at its ceiling threshold, so yes buprenorphine will take away a good portion of WDs in your situation but you will still be below your tolerance level from full agonists, hence your dysphoria.

If you ride it and stick with buprenorphine you could manage to use one 8 mg strip a week to feel 100% normal as compared to 2100 mg of Oxy a week(300 mg daily from your account), the money, time saved is well worth it.

 

[Opanaking]

You took way to much suboxone. If you do a little research you will find out that less is more with suboxone. In other words a lot of people find that they get better effects from smaller amounts of suboxone such as 2-4mg's. Some people even prefer going below 1mg. I know that 2-4mg's worked way better for me effects wise then 8 mg's ever did. By the time you finish those 10 30's you'll be sick again and have to do something.

Might as well just taper now with the suboxone, then use the oxy as needed to combat sub withdrawals when you decide to jump off completely.

 

[StartedHydro]

Some people including myself did better on higher doses in the beginning.

 

[Mr.Scagnattie]

Sounds like you are panicking and really just need to take a deep breath and relax. 16mg's is a high dose, you should have started out taking less. For now, if you are not in withdrawal, just try and stay calm and give it time. Try and sleep and see how you feel tomorrow morning. It takes a couple days for the body to become stabilized on the suboxone.

 

[laschenova]

Sounds like you are panicking and really just need to take a deep breath and relax. 16mg's is a high dose, you should have started out taking less. For now, if you are not in withdrawal, just try and stay calm and give it time. Try and sleep and see how you feel tomorrow morning. It takes a couple days for the body to become stabilized on the suboxone.

Thank you, thank you so much everyone...The answers all made perfect sense. I will see how I am in the morning and then around noon or later try maybe just 4mg and if I still feel bad try the other half of teh strip. I was tempted to try another strip but just smoked a little weed and am trying to relax. I was a dumbass though and too 10mg of Adderall.

Could I take a 10mg ambien in about 4 hours do you guys think?

I really appreciate the help, I have been pretty much blacklisted from my family and am feeling really panicky and pathetic on top trying to detox.

 

[Opanaking]

Go see a Dr. and tell him about the issues your having. The anxiety will pass once you get used to the subs or go through the withdrawal. Ambien is good before bed but not during the day. Get some benzos and stabilize your self on the subs. Clondine should help also.

 

[hugaddiction]

I feel you OP, I just rolled out of bed with the strength of a rotting corpse and took my first sub strip about 30 min ago, thus awakening me from the crippling WDs I was having, and from what it looks like form your post we were doing this all at about the same time, or at least on the same day. I too was laying in bed for the last day dosed on Xanx and imodium as well, so I know what you went through and it feels like death. That said thank god for the subs, I wouldnt be able to lift my fingers to teh key board if it was not for them.

Im sorry to hear they are making you depressed. I think what was said above about dose size might be a good place to start, but this is only my second time getting on the subs, and I am doing it on my own, not with a DR, so any info I have is first hand or form the internets. The first time was a last month and I took them for a week to avoid the oxy WDs and then stopped. I might have taken them longer, but I ran out and had planned to quit at that time as to avoid getting an addiction to the subs.

If I am right and we are fighting the same fight, Im in your corner and rooting for you! I would only say that I would hope you and I are strong enough to kick the oxi and stick with the subs. It is depressing, just as losing a lover would be, but how can you sustain your habit and keep your health, finances, and relationships at the rate your going? Even if your super rich, you have got to feel bad knowing your blowing 100k/year on drugs. You could go to H, but everyone knows that once you cross that line there is no going back. Doesnt mean you need to give them up for good, and your posts sound like you dont want to get off them at all, but you could at least take a break to get you tolerance down so that you might take 50-100/day instead of 300.

Last time I took subs I was on them for 10 days. I got so depressed when I got off of them that I took a few oxy thinking it would help me get over what I thought was withdrawals from the subs, so much lolz looking back on that choice! But...Im sure you know how this ends, I blew through my script in a few days and was drinking mountains of poppy seed tea for a week and a half trying to stave off the WD symptoms until I could get my hands on some more suboxone.

So, here we are. I know we dont know each other, but I can say that I genuinely feel bad for you and want to give you support however I could. Few people know the fight that we addicts go through and even fewer care to help. Best of luck to us both and may we have happy and healthy futures, if not today, then some time in the near future. ps, keep with the grass, that stuff is full of love, and god knows we need it now more than ever

 

[served00]

I think you are possibly experiencing some effects of precipitated withdrawal because your oxy tolerance was so high and you took bupe too soon. Trust me, it's happened to me 3 times while my heroin tolerance was extremely high. I even waited 40 hrs after I shot my last shot to take 8mg suboxone and it sent me into precipitated w/d for the next 48 hrs and it was soooooooooooooooo horrible.

 

[served00]

What happens is your tolerance is so high and you feel sick so you think its ssafe to take bupe but in reality there's still full agonist activity at your opioid receptors and youre not really fully sick yet, just partially sick, so you think its safe but really you just kinda fucked yourself. It happens with BIG tolerances. You need to give it time for the oxy to fully clear your system

 

[manoso]

I sometimes get depressed on suboxone too. I find that 100 mg of 5-HTP taken in the morning on an empty stomach makes me feel very happy.

 

[outofit]

I had a heroin problem and was really worried about getting on subs (I have been on them before, but only for painkiller abuse)
I thought they wouldn't work. The first day I took 1/2 of an 8mg, realized I wasnt gonna go into precipitated wd's, so I took a whole one.
That day sucked, and I still wanted to use, but I wasn't sick.
The next day I took a whole one, and felt great. No cravings. I don't even wanna get back on black. I have money. MONEY. I go shopping.
I it.
It sucks @ first, but once you are taking it daily, it feels great. I have enough that if I wanna have a REALLY good day I will take 2 8mg strips.
It's worth it, for me at least.

I suggest just giving it some time. I feels good to turn your life around.