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Bupe Sub is blocking all of my natural dopamine....severe depression... input?

bdomihizayka

bdomihizayka

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I've been looking around here for something somewhat relevant but couldn't come upon anything. I have begun taking suboxone about 50 days ago...4mg. Someone died in my life and I hopped on suboxone to stop myself from going out and using again. Now I'm kind of regretting it. I noticed on the sub, I have no emotion. I feel no dopamine rushes....eating, reading, exercising, guitar, nothing peaks my interest anymore and I feel as though I am going through the motions emotionless if that makes sense. I dropped to 2mg and this is my 2nd day without, just want off NOW... not experiencing anything really physical besides a little case of the chills, but the depression and apathy is relentless. Anyone else experience anything similar, like a dopamine lobotomy on subs, and does anyone have any eperiences of when it begins to come back? Really struggling and trying not to fully relapse at the same time...what a mistake this was..
 
Nothing in those pills blocks dopamine...

Try again bro...

Try breaking the pill or film in half... You might not need this much and are getting zonked out...
 
Taper or you might regret it

I thought I could handle withdrawal cold turkey too and didn't over-estimate myself but it was close.
 
Did you have a tolerance to opioids when you started the Buprenorphine? Because you mentioned that you did it to prevent yourself from using again (I guess Heroin).

If you have been abstinent before 4mg is way too much. This could be the reason why you feel bad.

Also listen to Ho-Chi-Minh, tapering to <1mg is very helpful if you really want to get off. It is better not to rush things and reduce the relapse-potential.
 
Thanks for the advice guys.... yes, I am just coming to realization it was probably way too much, and it was just my addict mentality in thinking more was better. I will definitely taper below 1mg.... really dont want to suffer more than I should. Thanks everyone.
 
bdomihizayka said:
Thanks for the advice guys.... yes, I am just coming to realization it was probably way too much, and it was just my addict mentality in thinking more was better. I will definitely taper below 1mg.... really dont want to suffer more than I should. Thanks everyone.
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The voice of a non-addicted barely-opiate tolerant person... 1 mg of bupe is a HEAVY dose. I take at most .25 mg lest I get uncontrollable puking every few minutes for 6+ hours. So use that as a simple guideline for your dosing.
 
Bupe is actually reportedly inclined to do the opposite for most people-that is it usually acts more as an anti-depressant for most.

I will say that personally after using opiates/opioids for more than 8 years continuously with the exception of about a 9 month period that I took nothing at all and also there has been brief periods within last year that I have went without taking any for a couple of weeks at a time. I have noticed that those feelings of natural "euphoria" (dopamine) or natural elation, extreme happiness or excitedness do not happen very often when I am not taking opiates/opioids like they did before I ever began taking them. I have always thought that this is more because of the length of time I have been on these meds/drugs.

Anyway, my point being (so that I don't blah blah blah...I am so tired), that maybe it is not the Bupe that is causing this lack of felling amd emotion but maybe just the past drug use.
 
Bupe is a powerful opiate and is not meant to take for an indefinite amount of time. JUst jumped off myself for the EXACT things you described. I was a depressed apathetic mf'er just going through the motions of life. Been off for 2 months and I have been out traveling every weekend, the drive back to write music, etc, etc. The stuff helps a lot of people and is good for its purpose. But if you use it as a supplement it will steal your zest for life and your soul IMO
 
bdomihizayka said:
I've been looking around here for something somewhat relevant but couldn't come upon anything. I have begun taking suboxone about 50 days ago...4mg. Someone died in my life and I hopped on suboxone to stop myself from going out and using again. Now I'm kind of regretting it. I noticed on the sub, I have no emotion. I feel no dopamine rushes....eating, reading, exercising, guitar, nothing peaks my interest anymore and I feel as though I am going through the motions emotionless if that makes sense. I dropped to 2mg and this is my 2nd day without, just want off NOW... not experiencing anything really physical besides a little case of the chills, but the depression and apathy is relentless. Anyone else experience anything similar, like a dopamine lobotomy on subs, and does anyone have any eperiences of when it begins to come back? Really struggling and trying not to fully relapse at the same time...what a mistake this was..
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are you sure you are not just seriosuly depressed due to the death? i know for me (and most people i have spoken to) suboxone actually has wonderful anti-depressant qualities. i dont think its the suboxone that is causing the depression.
 
im on suboxone, and even with me, it causes irritability, depression, and makes me real tired and miserable at times, when i take LOW DOSES (like 4mg in the morning, and 4mg at night) *thats a low dose to me* than it actually acts like an anti depresant, i agree opiates, even bupe numb ur mind and it can be uncomfortable, its like having all the side effects of heroin but without the euphoria..its kind of annoying...i wish i never got of methadone and switched to subs, i been off meth for 1 month now and on subs, and i swear i still feel like im going thru opiate withdrawl, and imt aking 3 subs a day ONLY BECAUSE i came off of 130mg of methadone within 3 weeks and switched over and according to my doctor 3 subs a day occupies 99% of ur receptors..at the same time 3 a day is way too much for me with the side effects, i was on suboxone for 5 yrs straight before, maybe i just ruined what it has to offer me...it does literally nothing as far as euphoria or pain management if u take it everyday, just acts as a blocker if u take opiates, idk..i got mixed emotions about bupe
 
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