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Non-recreational use of psychedelic drug success stories v. that's a tool not a toy!

With the help of my best friend and some aMT I managed to beat years of social anxiety in a single trip. Completely turned my life around, and went from feeling hopeless, trapped, and not knowing what to do with myself to having the time of my life over the past year and a half since that trip. :)

Don't really need to go into much more detail than that. The irony is I actually did go into that trip with the intention of just having fun, but we got talking about my anxiety and it pretty much turned into a 15-16 hour therapy session.
 
morninggloryseed said:
All drugs are tools. I use coffee and 5-10mg amphetamine for writing, once a month or so I take a swig of my friends whisky for warmth, or to get me off my huge cloud and just chill (I cannot just 'chill' very effectively post iboga). Funny because pre-iboga, I could not tolerate any alcohol...the buzz was bad and the comedown was worse...now my body seems to process it effectively.

Uh....... maybe cannabis isn't a tool, that is mostly recreational thing...even the psychedelic...whether just taking for a Friday night with Lococo...or something a little more serious...are all tools.

PS Solipsis...don't know what it is but the psilocin is SERIOUSLY GODLY material. Every time I take it, something VERY magical, spiritual, or insight-giving happens you guys have no idea. Maybe it is just where I am at in life but naww, psilocin is the best I think I like it more than DMT.
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Cannabis is a wonderful tool! perfect medicine for so many occasions... And yes all drugs are tools, well maybe not all, but I find psychedelics (as we all do) a powerful tool for self-transformation and healing purposes, and was wondering of some people's specific experiances and methods in this area, rather than just eating them for the hell of it.

and just to clarify before people start getting defensive of their chemical saviours :p I am not saying that these drugs do not produce powerful healing and transformational experiances without the intent to do so, but I personally feel that this effect is more powerful when specifically focused - and not that you have to focus on it the whole time or treat it as this serious thing and not have fun, but yeah.
 
Don't get me wrong. Cannabis gave me my first psychedelic experience. It is a wonderful tool. To me, it is a true mind expanding substance, but for me...at this point in life, cannabis is the only acceptable 'drug' for just relaxing, shooting the shit, etc...it's the only one I will allow myself to use for that. Even alcohol, I drink so little when I do drink some it's hard to say it gives me any kind of high...just takes the "my brain is working 24/7 and I can't stop it" thing away when I feel I need to do that. So Cannabis is the only material I want to consume these days for pure 'recreation' and that is why I made the distinction.

Magickduck said:
Cannabis is a wonderful tool! perfect medicine for so many occasions...
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morninggloryseed said:
Don't get me wrong. Cannabis gave me my first psychedelic experience. It is a wonderful tool. To me, it is a true mind expanding substance, but for me...at this point in life, cannabis is the only acceptable 'drug' for just relaxing, shooting the shit, etc...it's the only one I will allow myself to use for that. Even alcohol, I drink so little when I do drink some it's hard to say it gives me any kind of high...just takes the "my brain is working 24/7 and I can't stop it" thing away when I feel I need to do that. So Cannabis is the only material I want to consume these days for pure 'recreation' and that is why I made the distinction.
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I see, I agree, though pretty soon here I must cut back as I feel it contributes to confusion and laziness (or maybe even solely causes it ha!)

As for his salvia, I said the same thing, then he said he tried super small ammounts or half a cone - elucidor: with salvia you need to torch it as it burns at an extremely high temperature - so you really need to use a torch lighter or at the very least in a bowl.
 
(Hank Hill's voice) I tell you what Mr. Duck....(/end voice)

I recently had some 'medical cannabis' and the breeder of this went on at length the difference between his and some of the strains bred for intoxicating purposes. I could see from the buds that it was some of the nicest stuff I've ever seen...even nice than what I used to grow. And due to my current location in Babylon....I am no stranger to less potent cannabis and/or shitty cannabis.

This 'medical' strain was the most clear-headed thinking pot I've ever had. It literally took me 2 days to realize how high I was from it. It was very psychedelic pot, but no cannabis-type visuals (or they were not in the forefront), there was no paranoia of how high I was, I don't even think it made my eyes red.

This was a from a commercial grower but i did not ask 1001 questions about the heritage of the strain, just out of respect for the guy...but I really know first hand that there is some POTENT cannabis that does not dumb down the head or cause lazyness...

[jive guys from Airplane voice]I could use some knock me on my ass weed. It is hard for me to just be lazy these days. Shit (Golly).[/jive guys]
 
It probably has less to do with quantative potency than the varying compositions of cannabinoids in types of weed such as THC, CBD and CBN but also less known ones like THCV which piqued my interest once upon a time, but I forgot why (lol smoke much?). These qualitative differences can mean the difference between couchlock, a cerebrel high, intellectual and creative stimulation, etc. Of course those effects partially vary due to set and setting just like LSD can have a wide spectrum of effects. Still the type of weed can predefine what part of the spectrum you will get.

Once I used homegrown organic MK Ultra to make QWISO honey oil. The weed itself was pretty laidback and mellow, nothing special though. But the oil felt qualitatively different, especially the part that I tried to isomerize to make more delta-9 conformation THC.
I never felt less lazy from cannabis than I felt from that product, it was like a clean buzzing hash high times 100. But it felt like too much for my taste, just like synthetic cannabinoids are not necessarily king when they have ultra CB1 agonism. The art apparently is too have an effect that is beautifully balanced in a certain way. And that would in my opinion require some kind of mix of partial agonists and antagonists of both CB1 and CB2. Obviously there are a lot of winners and it is a matter of taste.

Sorry if that derails it a bit, but I felt like elaborating on your suggestion. YMMV
 
Oh yeah that's what I was saying (Or trying to) :) ...the high from this was not about potency...when I say it took me two days to realize how high I was...I mean because the usual sings I look for to gauge how 'good' a strain is...were not so apparent. No real 'intoxication' from it, not too much in the way of 'couch lock' so I needed to go from smoking whatever garbage I was smoking before I got some of this...then come down and get high again over two days...to realize...."Shit this is AMAZING cannabis."

THCV was described in the literature as predominating in African strains of pot, and the literature I am thinking of said THCV was more 'hallucinogenic' so I suspect that's what made it sound interesting.

Speaking of mediocre pot becoming gold...when I used to grow I experimented quite often with cooking down the leaf to a potent extract...this was a LONG time ago so there wasn't knowledge of 'butane hash' or 'ice hash' and all the other methods popular today.

Once I took many ounces of leaf and trim, soaked it in warm water till the water turned green, carefully separated the water from the glands and plant material, then boiled it in ETOH for many hours with a lid trying to 're-condense' it based on something I read about a home hash making technique from the 70s that used the words 're-condense' and 'isomerize't o describe its process...memory is a little patchy but I'll check downstairs next time and see if I can find the passage).

I don't know what it did to the chemistry of that batch but MAN that was a potent 'hash'...nothing at all like the green it came from. Very potent and very removed from your normal cannabis high.

Derail away, who doesn't love good BL discussion. At BL we are the king of OT posts but they are always good aren't they? :)
 
ComfortablyNumb95 said:
you sure it was salvia if it didn't get you high?
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Even though I didn't get mind blowing effects I definitely got a very noticeable perception change that I can still feel to this day. I think where I went wrong was not large enough a dose and not hot enough a flame. I am still incredibly impressed with the perception change that resulted.
I have been trying to break the habit of smoking bongs of herbs and tobacco every day, and since then I have nearly no desire to go and smoke. When I do score some more weed I am going to try to use my portable vaporizer more often and completely cut out the adding of tobacco to the smoking blends.
I love smoking bongs too much to completely stop smoking tho. Vapor is just not the same.

^^ I love ur work MGS , I have learnt a lot from you over the years.
That medicinal grade weed sounds lush, I'd love to see a bit of it run through a mass spectrometer to find the full components.
Makes me wonder if different chems in different strains would have different medicinal effects.
 
I once took around 5 g of shrooms to try to break the psychological connection I had with a girl. It kind of worked. But she was really just replaced with an imaginary one... Or I found that this one I had been attached to simply wasn't for me. Turn she called me a couple of weeks later...

I have taken a very small dose of DOC to combat an allergic reaction to fish, so that I could enjoy LSD with some friends later on. It fixed the sick feeling but even taking three hits of acid later did nothing after that DOC, even though it wasn't even a trip dose.
 
morninggloryseed said:
(Hank Hill's voice) I tell you what Mr. Duck....(/end voice)

I recently had some 'medical cannabis' and the breeder of this went on at length the difference between his and some of the strains bred for intoxicating purposes. I could see from the buds that it was some of the nicest stuff I've ever seen...even nice than what I used to grow. And due to my current location in Babylon....I am no stranger to less potent cannabis and/or shitty cannabis.

This 'medical' strain was the most clear-headed thinking pot I've ever had. It literally took me 2 days to realize how high I was from it. It was very psychedelic pot, but no cannabis-type visuals (or they were not in the forefront), there was no paranoia of how high I was, I don't even think it made my eyes red.

This was a from a commercial grower but i did not ask 1001 questions about the heritage of the strain, just out of respect for the guy...but I really know first hand that there is some POTENT cannabis that does not dumb down the head or cause lazyness...

[jive guys from Airplane voice]I could use some knock me on my ass weed. It is hard for me to just be lazy these days. Shit (Golly).[/jive guys]
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I had a similar experiance with some very high quality sativa bud recently, we have good nugs around here but nothing like that and yea it was great!!
 
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