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Maya

Maya

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I have always been fascinated about stories regarding witches and sorcerers. When I was younger, I had spells that I have gathered from people back in my country and assumed that if I did it, I will be able to put a spell on someone but for some reason it didn't work. Maybe I was not doing it right? Anyhow I just want to share this information with you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siquijor#History

I came from the Philippines and migrated here in Canada. We have a province called "Siquijor" where it is believed to be inhabited by witches, sorcerers and shamans. People from my country who are going to visit this province are very careful not to offend or do something stupid in this province for witches can cast a spell on you and make you suffer and to reverse it, you have to go to a "healer." I know that there is Wicca from Europe but in the Philippines we have a more powerful form of witchcraft which we call "BARANG" which is a form of sorcery where the sorcerer keeps beetles in a bamboo and orders them to inhabit a body of a victim. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barang_(Philippine_mythology)

This is probably the most powerful form of witchcraft I have ever known. Do you guys know any form of sorcery from your native countries?
 
To be honest, many of these ancient forms of this I feel are a bit too "goddess this invoke upon that" etc etc when we have all the power we need within us. I have also learned that it is morally wrong to place a spell on another without their expressed consent i.e. "hey can i put a spell on you" "yes sure". these tools are a hammer, you could build a house, or smash up some windows. If you want to use this to harm, I doubt you will find the true paths of power.
 
Morphling said:
Hoodoo/conjure works particularly well.
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Just understand what you are looking at in reality is a mirror - those who you meet are simply a refelection of your Self - so if you see someone that has a negative trait you do not like - it is because it is in yourself. So if you use magick to teach someone a lesson in being selfish - you yourself will learn that lesson. While practicing on others, you are also practicing on yourself. And you have a ton more power over yourself ;)
 
There is both white and black magic. You can do magic both through light and darkness. They have different results.

I think I'll leave you to figure that out on your own. But white magic is done through love and giving mostly. And it ultimately has the upper hand. Chess is symbolic of this (white has the advantage - as the positive needs to be the strongest or the Universe would self-destruct). Even the darkest lifeforms realise this.

Either way, it's your own choice. Just keep in mind, no matter how evil a person is, if you can project enough love towards him it will disarm him and render him powerless. That is the real God-given power and why the dark is terrified of the light.
 
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There is also that hard to find line though, even actions based out of love with good intentions can be black magick if you are influincing the path of another without their permission.
 
It seems that intention can manifest anything. What I'm not sure about is whether or not doing it a certain way will yield better results. There's the idea that if you do a spell for something that has been done thousands of times before you by other people, it will have more collective power behind it. This seems to be the case behind secret traditions of lineages, like with hoodoo.

Either way, it's my understanding that if you do workings that harm others you are likely going to harm yourself in the process, since you are interfering with another person's life mission. It may also be the case that if a low level practitioner tries to harm someone more powerful than them, the working will just be deflected.

IMO power comes from within and the strongest power comes from the Source. If you're channelling that then I don't see what any human magical system can do to you, since those other systems are ego based.
 
I would recommend "The Secret Teachings of All Ages" by Manly P. Hall. Although it takes some to get through, he obviously has personal experience of what he's writing abot, judging by other things he's written.

http://www.manlyphall.org/articles/the-great-work-of-manly-hall/

Also, his appearance really intrigues me - like the cliche of a powerful magician. Very hypnotic/mesmeric eyes with an aura of occult power about him. Would have been great for Hollywood if he was born a bit later.

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Real animal magnetism - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_magnetism

The way he described it was that black magic was simply white magic (Theurgy - the opposite of Sorcery) inverted (the symbols, etc.) as there was no such thing as God-given black magic.
 
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There is no such thing as black magic. The term black magic came about to make traditional african practices appear bad and scary. Stop being racist. The term "baneful magic" is acceptable.

Hoodoo is not a secret initiatory lineage.

Technically, sorcery refers to the practice of coercing or otherwise dealing with spirits to accomplish things for you. Other practices would be more 'witchcraft-y."

Meh. Sorry to get cranky :p
 
In the spiritual world there are only two powers:
God
Satan

All the power for sourcery, witchcraft, Satanism etc comes from Satan. This isn't something you want to mess with because Satan is freaking genious and powerful.
However, I've witnessed demons identify themselves on request using the name of Jesus Christ and even Satan obeying the name of Jesus. Asuras and anon, those were the names.

I'm a sophomore in at Miami university with god leading my life. all I've witnessed is for his glory, I really did nothing.
 
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webbykevin said:
Congratulations, glad to know you have it all worked out and squared away, phew !

Maybe you would like to go into detail about how you learnt all this.........8)
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Lmao, I'm just as messed up as anyone else and my life is by no means perfect. I might share more later today but atm really busy and on phone.
 
koo said:
All the power for sourcery, witchcraft, Satanism etc comes from Satan.
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Be careful with your semantics. Sorcery and Christianity are not incompatible...quite the opposite actually. There's been extensive academic studies done relating to the sorcerous acts of Jesus himself and the early church members...."Jesus the Magician" by Historical Jesus scholar Morton Smith is probably the archetypal example. More recently, Robert Conner has released two fantastic books on the topic..."Jesus the Sorcerer" and "Magic in the New Testament"...both are quite stellar in their display of erudition and objectivity.

Magickduck said:
To be honest, many of these ancient forms of this I feel are a bit too "goddess this invoke upon that" etc etc when we have all the power we need within us.
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We've yet to escape Solipsism and validate the existence of others outside our perceptions of them...so discussing whether Magick comes from within us or through invocations of Godforms is inconsequential. What matters is results

As the good sir Aleister Crowley stated rather succinctly...."In this book it is spoken of the Sephiroth and the Paths; of Spirits and Conjurations; of Gods, Spheres, Planes, and many other things which may or may not exist. It is immaterial whether these exist or not. By doing certain things certain results will follow; students are most earnestly warned against attributing objective reality or philosophic validity to any of them." - Magick in Theory and Practice
 
More or less the western tradition came from all those shitloads of unattached christian clerics since...the 1400's or so. It's Christian magic.

Similar with Solomonic magic.

Moses learned sorcery from the egyptians. Calling Moses evil would make you a Bible denier.

I could quote the specific bible verses pertaining to the uses of magic and prophecy but I really can't be arsed. I can dig em up, tho, if you want me to :)
 
But the Christian position makes no sense, for it says in the old testament.."I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things." Isaiah 45:7 - But you will never hear a sermon on that preached from the pulpit.
 
Essentially, if you can perform magic/witchcraft/sorcery, those things are gifts from God, and without God nothing is possible. The bible is full of people speaking in tongues, healing, giving prophecy, etc, and if those things were not evil back when the books of the bible were written, how can they be evil now?

Oldschool Jews/Kabbalists would call upon demonic help, commanding those spirits in God's name. Not all the time mind you, but it was/is certainly an option.

Catholic high mass is full of magic, and some of the more recent iterations of Christianity go a lot further than the Catholics do.

It's not your everyday Christianity, but there is biblical basis for the use of these things.
 
i cant say iv ever met a wizard or a witch who can perform spells

it makes for nice stories tho

i think ppl can effect things around them with their emotional state and if lots of people gather with a shared goal and meditate/pray then miracles could happen
 
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