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I want to start meditating

Okami

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So I've been interested in meditation to reduce stress levels, but since I'm quite clueless on the subject I wanted to hear some advice and opinions. I was wondering does anyone have some recommended reading for a first time meditator or any tips. How long and often do you guys meditate? Why do you meditate? Also what are your opinions on meditating slightly stoned? Does meditating high defeat the point?

Thanks for all your responses.
 
I've done meditation daily for almost two decades. I got into it before I was even into drugs and alcohol, and I do it daily for anywhere from 10-30 mins. I've found that if I do it for longer than 30 mins I fall asleep which isn't bad but that's not the goal of it. Start by doing it for a low amount of time daily maybe 5 or 10 minutes and just concentrate on your breathing. I have done it while intoxicated on alcohol and other things but it's best to do it sober. I got into meditation because I wanted something that would relax me and allow me to learn things about myself, and it gives me a routine and that's important to me for sobriety.
 
Fall asleep? Does you do it lying down? As for breathing, should I just breathe normally, or more slowly/deeply than normal or anything?
 
Fall asleep? Does you do it lying down? As for breathing, should I just breathe normally, or more slowly/deeply than normal or anything?

Sometimes I'll do it sitting up, and sometimes I do it lying down. Breathe normally, and then start to breathe slowly and more deeply but concentrate on your breathing with your eyes closed.
 
When I first started meditating, if I tried doing it while lying down I would usually start to fall asleep. Meditation is not the same as sleep, so you'll want to avoid sleeping when you do it. That said, if you end up sleeping during meditation, then it prob means that's what your body means.

The most simple meditation is a breathing meditation to clear the mind and return to baseline. Do this sitting up. You don't need to be all cross legged, you can sit in a chair or however is comfortable.

Close your eyes. Breathe normally and through your nose only. Draw your attention to the breath, specifically how it feels cool on the tip of your nose when you inhale, and how it's warm when you exhale. Keep focusing on this. If your thoughts wander then gently bring yourself back to your centre of focus, which is that sensation of air on the opening of your nose. Don't punish yourself if your thoughts wander, just be relaxed about it. Bring yourself back.

If thoughts come to mind, then gently allow them to flow through you without grasping them. Keep bringing yourself back to focus. With practice, this meditation allows you to experience emptiness. The mind turns off completely yet you are not unconscious when it does, and when the meditation is over you feel refreshed and grounded.

This meditation teaches you that you are not your mind, and that you don't need to identify with your mind's thought-stream. It is something you can disengage from, or simply observe with cool detachment. And it's a meditation you can achieve for just 10 minutes a day.
 
I know it takes practice, but I was always too busy to find time to mediate during the day and when I could make time was unable to clear my mind as I still had stuff to do (haha exactly the type of person it would benefit eh). I took to trying to mediate in the evening, but then was always too tired.

After giving up for a while, I was researching lucid dreaming (which I've become fairly adept at) and sleeping patterns. What I've found worked best for me was sleeping from 11pm-2am, 3:30am-6am, and 20min naps around noon and/or after work if possible. During the night period of being awake my mind is rested, clear and calm - in short a very good state for mediation. I go for a short walk, mediated for about 15min, and then read until going back to sleep. The daytime naps work wonders for recharging and reducing stress as well.

You can read up on polyphasic sleep here.
 
I highly recommend Michael Browns "The Presence Process." I burnt out on spiritual books after years of searching, but this is a book that still inspires me to this day. It's a 10 weeks process that will help build the muscle that helps accumulate presence and awareness — the muscle that makes meditation valuable. I've been through it 4 times so I am not blindly recommending this.

You can get a flavor of what's involved at :

http://www.thepresenceportal.com/

Best of luck to you.
 
Look into mbsr

Its entirely medical, no religious affiliation, and developed by a us medical university

There are guided relaxation tapes
 
there are some guided meditations on youtube. they are not so long and very basic but i think its a good start. just play them and get comfy and try to follow along. Its nice!
 
I just started jujutsu training today, which includes a brief meditation at the end of class. It doesn't take much time, but boy, did I feel better immediately. I think my brain was craving some space to just "be" for a while. I think try to make meditation really complicated, but all it is is just sitting there, watching thoughts as they go by like clouds on the breeze. Just find a quiet spot and go for it.
 
I meditate while listening to an entrainment track. I personally use Life Flow but there are others out there.
 
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