Is Ecstasy a hard drug or a soft drug?

[Elven Warriorr]

I really don't know how to classify this drug-how would you guys classify ecstasy, as a hard drug, or as a soft drug?

 

[laugh]

whats the difference between a hard drug and a soft drug?

 

[Morphling]

Well, it's not crack.

What difference would it make?

 

[feedmesauce]

for me hard drug = addicting . Soft drug = not addictive. IMHO MDMA is a soft drug, but its subjetive

 

[Clocktower]

There are no "hard drugs" or "soft drugs." Any drug is safe if the dose is low enough and dangerous if the dose is too high.

 

[gymstud]

Canabis was concidered soft when i was a kid
But it coused me more harm than
Mdma
Amphetamine
Heroin
2cb
Mcat

Personally having abused lots of differnt drugs
Id say mdma is one of the softer if your talking damage not power

 

[bloodshed344]

to gymstud: cannabis didnt cause you harm, unless you consider stabbing yourself to be a sharp object causing you harm (as opposed to you causing yourself harm)

To answer the OP:

1. We don't know what's in ecstasy, cause it always changes! YAY!

anway

2. Even if we did know what it was, we wouldn't know if it's hard or soft because those aren't measurements, unless you're trying to gauge it's physical hardness...
In that case I would say ecstasy is quite a hard drug, harder than: heroin, cocaine, weed, alcohol, GHB, LSD, mescaline (pure and cactus), shrooms, and more equally hard as: other pills not as hard as: crack or meth, because these are both in super hard crystals!

Anyone know of any drugs harder than crack or meth?

 

[cloudio]

to gymstud: cannabis didnt cause you harm, unless you consider stabbing yourself to be a sharp object causing you harm (as opposed to you causing yourself harm)

To answer the OP:

1. We don't know what's in ecstasy, cause it always changes! YAY!

anway

2. Even if we did know what it was, we wouldn't know if it's hard or soft because those aren't measurements, unless you're trying to gauge it's physical hardness...
In that case I would say ecstasy is quite a hard drug, harder than: heroin, cocaine, weed, alcohol, GHB, LSD, mescaline (pure and cactus), shrooms, and more equally hard as: other pills not as hard as: crack or meth, because these are both in super hard crystals!

Anyone know of any drugs harder than crack or meth?

Alcohol

 

[futura2012]

I agree with Laugh Whats your definition of hard or soft?

Maybe you meant does Ecstasy fit into the governments definition of it being a schedule I or schedule II or schedule III drug?

I was quite interested by this so looked up the definitions:

Schedule I

The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse.

The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.

There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision.


Schedule 2

The drug or other substances have a high potential for abuse

The drug or other substances have currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States, or currently accepted medical use with severe restrictions

Abuse of the drug or other substances may lead to severe psychological or physical dependence.


Schedule 3

The drug or other substance has a potential for abuse less than the drugs or other substances in schedules I and II.

The drug or other substance has a currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.

Abuse of the drug or other substance may lead to moderate or low physical dependence or high psychological dependence.




The main outlining definition here is potential for abuse. Does MDMA have a high possibility for abuse?

The other very interesting fact is Cocaine and Meth is Schedule II and not Schedule I like MDMA.

Does this mean the American government think Meth and Cocaine are safer than MDMA? or "softer" in some way?

God when you actually read about this you see its a fucking minefield of broad and difficult to categorise definitions.

The UK Classification system is a little easier to understand but even that the definitions are very vague.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controlled_Substances_Act USA Scheduling

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misuse_of_Drugs_Act_1971 UK Scheduling

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_classification:_making_a_hash_of_it? Why the UK Scheduling is such a Fuck Fest

 

[gymstud]

to gymstud: cannabis didnt cause you harm, unless you consider stabbing yourself to be a sharp object causing you harm (as opposed to you causing yourself harm)

To answer the OP:

1. We don't know what's in ecstasy, cause it always changes! YAY!

anway

2. Even if we did know what it was, we wouldn't know if it's hard or soft because those aren't measurements, unless you're trying to gauge it's physical hardness...
In that case I would say ecstasy is quite a hard drug, harder than: heroin, cocaine, weed, alcohol, GHB, LSD, mescaline (pure and cactus), shrooms, and more equally hard as: other pills not as hard as: crack or meth, because these are both in super hard crystals!

Anyone know of any drugs harder than crack or meth?

Canabis did me lots if harm not going into detail
Have you tried all the srugs youve listed personally

 

[bloodshed344]

Canabis did me lots if harm not going into detail
Have you tried all the srugs youve listed personally

Alcohol

Congrats neither one of you can understand english. Also, no I haven't gymstud, not that it matters because it has nothing to do with how hard or soft these materials are. Why do you care about the hardness anyway, are you trying to build an ecstasy castle?

 

[Morphling]

You do E a few times a year, and don't abuse it, perhaps it's a soft drug?

Snort up 3g a day like some of the crackheads I've seen on BL, perhaps it's a hard drug? Especially when they start bitching about all sort of side-effects. Seems to me a hard drug is something that will fuck you up or cause addiction.

 

[StrutterGear]

I don't consider any drug 'hard' or 'soft'. I merely just divide them into groups I have tried and enjoyed, would try, and would not ever try. The 'would not ever try' is pretty much just heroin and pretty much every opiate, crack and methamphetamine. Cocaine I've used sparingly but I don't really enjoy it.

 

[gymstud]

Congrats neither one of you can understand english. Also, no I haven't gymstud, not that it matters because it has nothing to do with how hard or soft these materials are. Why do you care about the hardness anyway, are you trying to build an ecstasy castle?

It matter if your opion is based on first hand or second hand information

I under stand english but looking back on what you actualy said

cannabis didnt cause you harm, unless you consider stabbing yourself to be a sharp object causing you harm (as opposed to you causing yourself harm)

It wouldnt be suprising if i didnt understand if some one stabs there self to death i think the corse of death would be knife wounds not there self

But i did what im saying is canabis harms ppl in many ways

 

[bloodshed344]

It matter if your opion is based on first hand or second hand information

I under stand english but looking back on what you actualy said

cannabis didnt cause you harm, unless you consider stabbing yourself to be a sharp object causing you harm (as opposed to you causing yourself harm)

It wouldnt be suprising if i didnt understand if some one stabs there self to death i think the corse of death would be knife wounds not there self

But i did what im saying is canabis harms ppl in many ways

The knife doesn't stab. The holder of the knife stabs.

 

[MrPorter]

This depends.
Free base MDMA is an oil and therefore rather soft.
Crystal MDMA HCl 'rocks' would be quite hard.
Powder tends to be a mix of between, but composed of tiny crystals. I'd have to say it is a hard drug.

If even moderately abused, it can cause a lot more problems than others if you've gone on a bit of a binge, also more likely to cause SS if combined with something unlike some other drugs.


It's all a bit of a pointless question really, it's up to you how you'd rate it.

 

[alkz]

Well It had the most negative long term effect out of any other drug I have done but others can use it without long term depression and anxiety ( I envy those people).
Other than that your question on whether it is hard or soft is a matter of opinion.

 

[xx001]

I really dislike the hard drug vs soft drug classification. It is more misleading than the stimulant/depressant/hallucinogen classifications.

The goal here is to classify drugs by what effects they have on a person. The problem is that the effects can be highly variable and are dependent on both the user's individual psychology and body chemistry, as well as the patterns of use. This goes along with another unfortunate use of terminology, that being the difference between "use" and "abuse". This is the classification that is much more important.

Take a healthy person chewing coca leaves once a week vs an addict shooting coke or smoking crack 6 times a day. The same drug(cocaine) is used, but the individuals and their patterns of use are wildly different. For the first user, this is simply "use". The person is healthy and is using the drug in a way that has the lowest chance of addiction. They do not have a strong tolerance and the level of toxicity is kept to a minimum. The second user is clearly in a situation of "abuse". They are addicted to the drug, and are using it in the most harmful way possible. They are likely in poor health, which increases the risks from using the drug.

The same goes for mdma. It is neither a hard drug nor a soft drug. When used appropriately, it is very safe, but if it is abused, it can lead to serious consequences.

Some drugs have a bit more wiggle room between use and abuse than others. Cannabis and coffee are not usually major candidates for abuse and the side effects are relatively small. On the other hand, drugs like heroin, alcohol, cocaine, methamphetamine, etc. are much easier to abuse and have serious consequences for doing so. Still, the ultimate factor is the user, not the drug.

 

[F1n1shed]

MDMA and what is being sold as ecstasy these days is most definitely a hard drug. I have a hang over right now so don't feel like going into detail. MDMA causes strong physiological changes in your brain after the first time you use it. The only 'soft' part about MDMA is it isn't addicting, but is habit forming. First time i rolled i thought it would be a pretty soft experience..... NO. I woke up feeling intensely fried, and did not think the experience would be that mind altering.

I suppose if you just take 1 dose 3-4 times a year it can be a relatively soft drug , but lets be real most people don't do that

 

[dopemaster]

Kinda depends. It sure fucked my head up. I was rolling at least once a week in high school taking like 4 or 5 pills and Im not bragging. I was already an alcholic and a coke head.
Well I made it to college somehow. I quickly started finding ways to fund my habit which was mostly E and pain pills as I was on probation. So yeah I started getting some nasty side effects from E and I was taking the pure stuff aka molly. I was rolling about once a week as I was trying to make a go at school and have sex and what not.
I would say ecstasy is a wonderful experience but can be a nasty drug. So it does lack the addiction of pill, smack, and coke. But I personally got to the point where I pretty much lived to go take X at all these DnB, techno, electronic, dubstep shite. But to be honest Id take that shit anywhere. What stopped my habit was that no matter how many pills I took I couldnt feel the shit even though my friends could. I was always the one who did the most drugs.
Im not knocking X as I look back on it fondly and had good times with it. But I truly believe it should only be used a certain amount of times in your life. Also I think mushrooms are way more fun for clubbing if you can handle it.