Heroin detox w/in 7 days? -I bold important stuff so it's short and you'll read it :)

[m060mm]

Chipped forever until the most recent year of daily use. (Another one bites the dust. Just be careful, young hopefuls.) >i was using what I feel< was like '5 bags a day' as an average is an underestimate Not dick sizing, just - I was moderately dependent at best. Or would it be least?

I tapered with H as much as I could for two weeks - I was keeping myself uncomfortable by underdosing during this period leading up to my quitting, where I believe I was down to about two bags (0.2g) a day. Along with clonazepam to taste.

A day+ of 'cold turkey' (clonidine, klonopin (had to ration so my 1.5mg/day was nothing for me), ibuprofen and loperamide) before I started with 4mg suboxone, next day 4mg, and then three days of 2mg. Now, today makes a week and I feel no different, passing 24 hours since my last 2mg sub.

Does strict, minimal suboxone-aided detox really occur that quickly? Or do I have more subs in me than Quiznos and I'm just hoping for the best? I hear such varied reports of subs, dosage, timing and serum levels/pragmatic dosing equivalents.

I mean, I feel edgy as fuck, still hot/cold and achy/listless but I am by no means hurting like I expected.

Share your (dis?)similar experience, please.

Oops, and I've been using meth daily for months (IV, micro doses but even 50mg would have me coughing after a shot.
I didn't use meth during the roughest four days where I was in bed trying to sleep 24 hours/day but once I was well enough to do basics beyond eating and showering, about day 5 I started back using even smaller doses of meth (anxiety like you wouldn't believe but it helped me stay resolute with kicking.)

I feel like I'm making progress based on less and less need for sleep (tina doesn't keep me up too much since using regularly) but if I'm disillusioned, I'd change my behavior to avoid a surprising backlash. FWIW, the meth is next to go, but I know I'll need it during PAWS, at which point I'll stick to oral, with commensurately lower doses.

Thanks for taking time to reply! If something resonates with you and you're planning on quitting, feel free to ask more about my approach because even if I still have a ways to go before I'm off any opioid entirely, I know I'm through the acute phase and it was the easiest yet, despite my most addicted state.

 

[Mehm]

I would say that everyone's body is different.

Are you planning on eventually getting completely sober or just off of opiates?

 

[neversickanymore]

I tapered with H as much as I could for two weeks - I was keeping myself uncomfortable by underdosing during this period leading up to my quitting, where I believe I was down to about two bags (0.2g) a day.

nice work, easy to say, hard to do!

A day+ of 'cold turkey' (clonidine, klonopin (had to ration so my 1.5mg/day was nothing for me), ibuprofen and loperamide)

very good med combination but if you are ever going to get off all the opiates in the future skip the lope as it actually does pass the blood brain barier and antagonizes the opiat receptors so it will just prolong the inevitable.

Now, today makes a week and I feel no different, passing 24 hours since my last 2mg sub. ..... Does strict, minimal suboxone-aided detox really occur that quickly?

IMO considering that you were a daily user of five bags a day there is going to be no way that this is the case.. you need to consider tha half life of the subs.. "Based on all studies performed with SUBOXONE sublingual film, buprenorphine has a mean elimination half-life from plasma ranging from 24 to 42 hours" from HERE, by switching to the subs you may exspierince easier withdrawl symptoms but they will last allot longer than the H withdrawl would have.. but you are doing well, give yourself credit and just accept the fact that you will be a little sick for a little bit.. we all have to be sick to get off the opiates.. imo, short of having a DR knock you out with a non opiat there is no way to get a free pass, and every opiat antagonist we try to escape withdraws just makes us stay in them longer.. just be ready to go back to the clonidine and possibly a RLS drug.. you can do this, wouldn't it be nice to be rid of that ball and chain??

I know I'm through the acute phase and it was the easiest yet, despite my most addicted state.

unless you are planning on staying on the subs then this is just not correct.. but you can do it.. and please inform me of the good news that i'm wrong!!!

your doing great.. now you just have to accept the fact that your going to be sick but you will get better quick, the conu and other drugs should make this as easy as its ever going to get.. my very best wishes M and godspeed in the detox..