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Tramadol

RodJonse

RodJonse

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So, I found out the reason my doctor was unable to prescribe me hydrocodone anymore was because of the stupid fucking DEA. He was however to write me a script for Tramadol and since it is weaker than hydrocodone, he wrote me 60 of them so I could take equivalent doses.

I was just wondering, who here has tried tramadol before? Is it effective for pain relief? Is the buzz similar to vicodin (in substantial amounts)?
 
In substantial amounts.

You got screwed, bro.

Tramadol isn't that fire, but it's better than nothing. I'd eat quite a few at one time to feel anything.
 
tramadol is great when you have no tolerance, but its a really dirty drug, and wifpth a tolerance, it does absolutely nothing
 
Geaux Tigers! said:
In substantial amounts.

You got screwed, bro.

Tramadol isn't that fire, but it's better than nothing. I'd eat quite a few at one time to feel anything.
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I can't say he screwed me over, he literally couldn't give anything else and it's only 4 dollars with insurance. Considering it's this or nothing, I'd rather go with it than not.


Bigfanofthemdrugs said:
tramadol is great when you have no tolerance, but its a really dirty drug, and wifpth a tolerance, it does absolutely nothing
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Well my tolerance is not very high in contrast to the lot of you here, a proper dose of hydrocodone for me is about 10-12.5 MG...I have some tolerance in that 7.5 MG no longer cuts it, but at the same time I'm not dependent and don't ever recall having any W/D symptoms as of yet.

With that in mind, do you think somewhere between 200-350mg of this stuff might be alright? I don't expect it to be the same, but all I really need it to do is make me feel a little bit better and not be totally useless like NSAIDs and Tylenol. He gave me a whole fucking bunch (70 to be exact) so I can take however much I might need.
 
Why was he not able to prescribe anything else because of the DEA? Did he lose his DEA registration number due to innapropriate prescribing?

One thing about tramadol is the daily limit is 400mg. Tramadol lowers your seizure threshold and any amount above 400mg a day is dangerous. Back when I took about the same dose of hydrocodone as you, tramadol did nothing for my pain at all (no different than APAP or ibuprofen) and I never got any euphoria from it at all at any dose. It is helpful for WDs from opiates/opioids. Also, at higher doses it just gave me a very uncomfortable jumpy, speedy feel.
 
missmeyet? said:
Why was he not able to prescribe anything else because of the DEA? Did he lose his DEA registration number due to innapropriate prescribing?

One thing about tramadol is the daily limit is 400mg. Tramadol lowers your seizure threshold and any amount above 400mg a day is dangerous. Back when I took about the same dose of hydrocodone as you, tramadol did nothing for my pain at all (no different than APAP or ibuprofen) and I never got any euphoria from it at all at any dose. It is helpful for WDs from opiates/opioids. Also, at higher doses it just gave me a very uncomfortable jumpy, speedy feel.
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Well, I have no reason to believe he purposely decided not to give me hydrocodone because the last time I got one from him was three months ago and then he had no problem whatsoever. The thing is though that two times before he could only give me 15 because that was their new policy (and he mentioned some shit about the DEA then). Now he says he can't at all. My assumption is that he is afraid he might lose his registration, maybe they are being inspected or something. Either way, if he were lying to me about this then that'd be erratic behavior on his part because we've not had any issues in the past.

Thanks for the heads up. We'll see how it goes. If tramadol doesn't work for me then I'll probably ask him for something else, but I'm not sure what else there is lower than hydrocodone in terms of regulation that would be effective.
 
With a low tolerance, used every other day or less, tramadol is GREAT, actually better than hydro and oxy imo cuz it has much longer legs. I just love it... Unfortunately, with tolerance tramadol is worse than hydro and oxy, for ex. So, imo, for moderate to severe pain tram is an awesome drug for the opiate-naive and the infrequent user, whereas for the daily user of painkillers with a high tolerance, tram just sucks ass, the dose can't be increased too much AND it's even more of a bitch to kick than standard opiates.
 
I always enjoyed tramadol.
I think its kind of like a mild kind of dirty opiate/MDMA super drug.
It makes me pretty euphoric and chatty with that pleasant opioid blanket wrapped around me.
Damn I want some
 
Okay, I got the tramadol and it WORKS! I took 200mg to start. Pain is being alleviated and I have a bit of a buzz a little similar to hydro but less in the head and more in my arms, legs, etc...the same general thing though.

Although I'm a bit concerned about taking this regularly because I some of you have stated, apparently it carries a higher risk than hydrocodone? Maybe I can find another doctor who will prescribe me hydros but for the time being this is definitely functional.

So the seizure threshold is 450mg?

That's just at once, right? If I take more later on in the day and it adds up to more than that, I'm fine right?
 
It's a 400mg daily limit. Some people do take more and are fine yet others I've heard have had a seizure as low as 150mg. You need to ask yourself if it's worth the risk.

I find tramadol at 100mg to be similar in effects to kratom, I haven't dosed any higher.
 
Hey Op, for questions about what dose of a drug to take or questions about its effects you should post in basic drug discussion, this is in the wrong forum. :)
 
Everyone here seems to disagree, but I love tramadol. It can give me strong nods that feel better than a strong oxy high tbh.
But I think that has something to do w/ my metabolism. I've always been pretty sensitive to tramadol's positive effects.

As for dose, you shouldn't exceed 400mg/day, and don't go that high without a tolerance. Start with 100-200mg, see how you feel. Some people don't feel shit from tramadol, if 200mg does nothing for you in terms of positive effects you might aswell give up.

RodJonse said:
Okay, I got the tramadol and it WORKS! I took 200mg to start. Pain is being alleviated and I have a bit of a buzz a little similar to hydro but less in the head and more in my arms, legs, etc...the same general thing though.

Although I'm a bit concerned about taking this regularly because I some of you have stated, apparently it carries a higher risk than hydrocodone? Maybe I can find another doctor who will prescribe me hydros but for the time being this is definitely functional.

So the seizure threshold is 450mg?

That's just at once, right? If I take more later on in the day and it adds up to more than that, I'm fine right?
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Glad to see it's working for you. Just don't exceed 400mg, and just dose as low as you can because tolerance builds pretty fast.

Small tip: Taking a small dose an hour before taking your 'real'/full dose will help the tramadol metabolize into more O-DT (the most active drug formed in your liver).
 
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A long time ago I had a doctor that would only prescribe Tramadol. That stuff is absolute garbage. It didnt kill any pain and it gave me the worst headaches ever. I don't even know how someone could even want to abuse that stuff. You need to find another doctor.
 
I am glad it is working for you.

I will make a suggestion since you are taking it for pain, if you don't mind. If you need pain meds for some reason, I recommend not partying with your pain meds or other opiates, especially since your doc is reluctant to prescribe opiates. Building a tolerance or having opiates render tramadol useless to you could put you in a bind obtaining meds to kill pain later on. Use them as prescribed so you don't screw yourself and party with other substances; like weed.

Just a suggestion and worth what you paid for it. Take care. :)
 
OP..it might not necessarily be that your doc is lying to you per se but I do know that a lot of docs now are tightening up their office policies(not because DEA told them that they had to exactly)and are making vague statements to patients that it has to do with the DEA. It does have to do with the DEA and the fact that they are scaring the hell out of docs, yanking their records and sending them to jail, pulling their licenses etc if they cant prove absolutely that a patient is in severe pain and that is why they are being prescribe narcotics. Many docs are just using the DEA and everything they are doing now as an out to drop a lot of their narcotic pain patients so they do not risk coming under scrutiny (which i dont blame them). I read in an article the other day (or somewhere) that most docs say they really dont care if their patients take narcotics daily as long as they arent the ones that have to write the prescription for them.

The point is he probably can still prescribe them he just wont. And in answer to your question if there is anything else less strong than hydros besides the tramadols that he can prescribe, no. In most states in the US tramadol is not even a controlled substance (not scheduled because it isnt a true narcotic drug).

Also, I think someone else besides me said, it is a 400mg limit PER DAY not per dose. Just be very careful and start with lowest dose. Once you build up a tolerance (though literature says it doesnt happen as easily as with other narcotics I have heard many people say that they do) you cant jump over that 400 mg limit..
 
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