blasting + cruising

nolys

nolys

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I'm asking the fucking questions!
To start I'm sure you all know I turn 21 very soon which I think is the main thing that needs to be mentioned in this post...

I will fully take in and listen to every piece of advice given in this thread, I will not (probably won't either way this is more of a curiosity) do this without hearing from the likes of guido, GF and the like. You all know I listen and will make the choice based on what I hear in this forum, I'm not an idiot like some of the rest.

Blast + cruise... Why not? Especially at my age (which is where the problem lies)? To me, at least I think, I'm 90% sure that I have stopped growing, I think I have developed as far as puberty or whatever you want to call it will take me. I'm broader and bigger than everyone around me and always have been, I havnt grown out or taller in years, I've always been more developed than others in regards to hair growth and hair loss (been losing it since 18)

I've seen GF (I think) mention before that he wish he had of started younger, and a few others saying that they wish they had of started younger with less fucking about.

I am fully aware that after a lengthy continous period of juicing will destroy my hpta, and that this is a choice for life, not a choice for now and for me to regret later.... it will be extremely difficult if not impossable to restore hpta to fully functional levels I understand.

With regards to having children and fertility, there is always HcG, which is actually good seeing as my girlfriend cannot use any form of contraception other than condoms for medical reasons.

Again, I havnt said I will do this, and no matter what the answers are I'm probably 90% not going to do it anyway, I'm posting out of curiousity and boredom mostly...

I would be completely happy to be on TRT for the rest of my life as far as I know, but I am young and don't yet know everything I may need to know.

Thoughts? And possibly a study of some sort (GF)?

Again I will take all information on board. I'm just thinking - why stop when I feel so good, look so much better, aren't doing myself any significant harm (as far as I know) and am happy to inject for the rest of my life?

Thanks for reading :)

Edit - I'm looking for genuine advice and knowledge, and I will listen so don't flame me or act as if I'm one of those bullshit noobs who will go ahead with whatever they feel like regardless of any advice that they get
 
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If i were you, I would do one or more cycles, just to experience with aas. Then if I don't regret it, I'll stay on gear year round. You could start blastingncruising right away, if your gf (girlfriend not genetic freak lol) doesn't mind small balls, at least she'll have a bigger dick.

Edit : This is my 50th post, yay!
 
You're about the youngest recommended age to consider AAS. Many will recommend waiting later, but I started at your age and have had no problems. I read into PCT and all that a LOT and took that advice to heart.

The main thing to be concerned with would be things like the following,

1. Are your growth plates closed? If not, you MAY (I'm not sure if this has been 100% proven) close them prematurely. From what you've mentioned above, I don't think this is much of an issue.
2. How many years have you been lifting? If you haven't been lifting for a while, AAS will be a waste. They aren't a miracle drug that pops on instant muscle (as you must know).
3. How is your diet? Diet is 80% of bodybuilding, and without a decent diet you won't be gaining.
4. How is your body fat and all that? The higher the body fat %, the more you risk problems like gyno (titties), and high blood pressure. The gyno can usually be avoided with an anti-e, but the blood pressure is a serious issue if you are overweight.

At 21, your test levels are naturally high. I'm not saying don't do a cycle, but is it 100% necessary, no. I cycled at your age and got some great gains. Have you cycled before? If not, I'd consider a few test only cycles (with PCT, anti-e of course), and see how your body reacts. I'd not recommend someone at your age just start blasting and cruising, but I'm not here to be a dick and tell you how to do things. *EDIT* HcG is really important for keeping your testes working & keeping that natural test in check. I won't run a cycle without hcg. It doesn't cost much, and it helps ease the transition between cycle + pct.
 
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Sound like you're hooked already nolys.... Personally I'd start loading up on Creatine mono for when you come off, do your PCT and see how you feel, ideally I'd like you to dump the nolva + clomid and try a taper:

Weeks 1-10: 500mg test/week
Week 11-12: 100mg
Week 13: 75mg
Week 14: 50mg

Arimidex .125-.25mg/day week 10, and continue till week 16. I would recommend tapering off this as well so that by week 16 you are only using .25mg eod.

I've mentioned it before, as it worked for me back in the stone age when I was a lad like you, never had any problems as I've 4 kids..

I wouldn't even consider cruise-blast at 20 unless you have the sort of genetics that will put you up on a podium with the pro's, a reliable consistent supplier of quality products you trust, and a wallet to match..

I have previously stated I wished I'd started earlier, but I meant late 20's early 30's... not any younger....


Hey just found out my girlfriends cat is on steroids................. Serious..!!
 
flyhighk said:
If i were you, I would do one or more cycles, just to experience with aas. Then if I don't regret it, I'll stay on gear year round. You could start blastingncruising right away, if your gf (girlfriend not genetic freak lol) doesn't mind small balls, at least she'll have a bigger dick.

Edit : This is my 50th post, yay!
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I'm currently on first (legit and not fake gear, got stung before) cycle, 18th and last week in, all is good

Kaskadian said:
You're about the youngest recommended age to consider AAS. Many will recommend waiting later, but I started at your age and have had no problems. I read into PCT and all that a LOT and took that advice to heart.

The main thing to be concerned with would be things like the following,

1. Are your growth plates closed? If not, you MAY (I'm not sure if this has been 100% proven) close them prematurely. From what you've mentioned above, I don't think this is much of an issue.
2. How many years have you been lifting? If you haven't been lifting for a while, AAS will be a waste. They aren't a miracle drug that pops on instant muscle (as you must know).
3. How is your diet? Diet is 80% of bodybuilding, and without a decent diet you won't be gaining.
4. How is your body fat and all that? The higher the body fat %, the more you risk problems like gyno (titties), and high blood pressure. The gyno can usually be avoided with an anti-e, but the blood pressure is a serious issue if you are overweight.

At 21, your test levels are naturally high. I'm not saying don't do a cycle, but is it 100% necessary, no. I cycled at your age and got some great gains. Have you cycled before? If not, I'd consider a few test only cycles (with PCT, anti-e of course), and see how your body reacts. I'd not recommend someone at your age just start blasting and cruising, but I'm not here to be a dick and tell you how to do things. *EDIT* HcG is really important for keeping your testes working & keeping that natural test in check. I won't run a cycle without hcg. It doesn't cost much, and it helps ease the transition between cycle + pct.
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I'm currently on cycle, 600mg per week of test

1. I don't think its a problem
2. About 5 years with a year gap just before this cycle due to rotar cuff injury
3. Diet not 100% (most bullshit here but I don't, I've never said I had a clean diet) I get my calories and my protein in, with probably too much fat though I respond very very well to aas
4. Bodyfat is in and around 10%, no bullshit, give or take a % or 2

GF has informed me that HcG causes more shutdown of the testes and is only best used for fertility.
I'm on cycle now with little, to no problems whatsoever.

Genetic Freak said:
Sound like you're hooked already nolys.... Personally I'd start loading up on Creatine mono for when you come off, do your PCT and see how you feel, ideally I'd like you to dump the nolva + clomid and try a taper:

Weeks 1-10: 500mg test/week
Week 11-12: 100mg
Week 13: 75mg
Week 14: 50mg

Arimidex .125-.25mg/day week 10, and continue till week 16. I would recommend tapering off this as well so that by week 16 you are only using .25mg eod.

I've mentioned it before, as it worked for me back in the stone age when I was a lad like you, never had any problems as I've 4 kids..

I wouldn't even consider cruise-blast at 20 unless you have the sort of genetics that will put you up on a podium with the pro's, a reliable consistent supplier of quality products you trust, and a wallet to match..

I have previously stated I wished I'd started earlier, but I meant late 20's early 30's... not any younger....


Hey just found out my girlfriends cat is on steroids................. Serious..!!
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I might try the taper GF, though once I get to say, 150mg, instead of continueing the taper, take 1 week so that my levels drop to 75mg or so, then start a clomid PCT. How would that sound to you? An alternative that seems to me to make sense?

Why the armidex?

and WHY shouldn't I b+c in your opinion GF? Its fucking cheap lol money isn't an issue, perhaps my age is but a cruise dose would allow me to run test for 20 weeks for 30 pounds. (Sorry for the price discussion guido lol)
 
I didn't sleep last night because the Trenbolone combined with some stress, thermogenics, and painful muscle pumps had my insomnia acting up.

I'm going to pass out for a few hours and later tonight when I can think straight I will answer your post nolys.

Blasting and cruising is something you need to think long and hard about doing and got to make sure you got a reliable source with quality gear and wallet to pay for gear, food, bloodwork, and doctors visits.

I'll go into detail after my nap.
 
Things I would worry about before embarking:

-Do you have a well-enough paying career lined up? Or, at least a sense of one...

-Have you checked to see if all your growth plates are truly closed?



Reaching your natural potential by 21 may seem legit, but I tend to think it isn't the case. You see people make unreal gains/transformations all the time in the 25-40 range. I'm 23 so I've had similar thoughts to you, but at the end of the day I don't want to be fully dependent upon anything TRT-related until I'm in my 30s.
 
nolys said:
I might try the taper GF, though once I get to say, 150mg, instead of continuing the taper, take 1 week so that my levels drop to 75mg or so, then start a clomid PCT. How would that sound to you? An alternative that seems to me to make sense?

A Taper is a Taper, its meant to work as it is designed with minimal poly-pharmacy...

Why the armidex?

Used on taper to combat still high testosterone aromatising into estrogen..

and WHY shouldn't I b+c in your opinion GF?

You're about to make a LIFE CHANGING DECISION at 20, looking back at 20 I was a fucking idiot..!!


Its fucking cheap lol money isn't an issue, perhaps my age is but a cruise dose would allow me to run test for 20 weeks for 30 pounds. (Sorry for the price discussion guido lol)
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You don't run for 20 weeks, its meant to be 6-8... But gets less at time goes on..

0.4ml X 2/week = (0.8 X 20) = 16ml .... (10ml = 22pounds) ... 16ml = 35.20 pounds....... Lucky bastards, same cruise in NZ would be $128... or 64 quid...

nolys is sorry for the price discussion... :)
 
I just turned 28 in May. I didn't start using steroids until 26 and for a year prior I contemplated blasting and cruising.

I made the choice to blast and cruise because my seven years of heroin abuse and some prohormone/designer steroid use from my Seneior year in High School fucked my hormone levels up. Also my Methadone maintenance wasn't exactly helping my hormone levels and body composition.

Cruising and blasting consists of being on Testosterone indefinitely (cruising), a dose that may remain the same always or might increase when you add in other compounds and run them for a while (blasting) before coming off them to cruise again. Cruising for some consists of not just Testosterone, but other compounds as well. I like to cruise on 250mg of Testosterone E weekly and 300mg of Equipoise. When I blast I like 50mg-100mg of Trenbolone Acetate, 600mg-800mg of Equipoise, 250mg-500mg of Testosterone, and varied dosages of choice orals such as Epistane, Turinibol, Superdrol, Methyldienolone, Methylhydroxynadrolone, Methylstenbolone, Methyldihydroboldenone, Halodrol, and some others that slip my mind at the moment.

One really needs to think deeply about making the choice to do so. Are you prepared to inject everyday for years? Are you healthy enough? Are you okay with the possibility of never being able to have children? Are you financially stable enough? Are you prepared to risk jail time? Are you prepared to risk losing your hair? Are you emotionally stable enough? Can you give up recreational drugs? Are you mentally prepared for the fact that no matter how much you train, no matter how much your lift, or no matter what and how much you take, you might never ever become a pro bodybuilder? In some ways making the choice to blast and cruise is similar to making the choice to use heroin everyday. Are you prepared to live the steroid and bodybuilding lifestyle? Could you deal with being ostracized by friends, family, and loved one for your steroid use? There is a great deal of things to consider and questions to ask oneself.

I really don't mind price discussion as long as it isn't rampant and leads to dick sizing. Steroids aren't narcotics and steroids are actually legal in many countries. Sourcing however will not be tolerated because I don't want quality under ground labs and chefs to be put in danger.
 
Thanks for your post GF, I highly value your opinion amongst others

-Guido- said:
I just turned 28 in May. I didn't start using steroids until 26 and for a year prior I contemplated blasting and cruising.

I made the choice to blast and cruise because my seven years of heroin abuse and some prohormone/designer steroid use from my Seneior year in High School fucked my hormone levels up. Also my Methadone maintenance wasn't exactly helping my hormone levels and body composition.

Cruising and blasting consists of being on Testosterone indefinitely (cruising), a dose that may remain the same always or might increase when you add in other compounds and run them for a while (blasting) before coming off them to cruise again. Cruising for some consists of not just Testosterone, but other compounds as well. I like to cruise on 250mg of Testosterone E weekly and 300mg of Equipoise. When I blast I like 50mg-100mg of Trenbolone Acetate, 600mg-800mg of Equipoise, 250mg-500mg of Testosterone, and varied dosages of choice orals such as Epistane, Turinibol, Superdrol, Methyldienolone, Methylhydroxynadrolone, Methylstenbolone, Methyldihydroboldenone, Halodrol, and some others that slip my mind at the moment.

One really needs to think deeply about making the choice to do so. Are you prepared to inject everyday for years? Are you healthy enough? Are you okay with the possibility of never being able to have children? Are you financially stable enough? Are you prepared to risk jail time? Are you prepared to risk losing your hair? Are you emotionally stable enough? Can you give up recreational drugs? Are you mentally prepared for the fact that no matter how much you train, no matter how much your lift, or no matter what and how much you take, you might never ever become a pro bodybuilder? In some ways making the choice to blast and cruise is similar to making the choice to use heroin everyday. Are you prepared to live the steroid and bodybuilding lifestyle? Could you deal with being ostracized by friends, family, and loved one for your steroid use? There is a great deal of things to consider and questions to ask oneself.

I really don't mind price discussion as long as it isn't rampant and leads to dick sizing. Steroids aren't narcotics and steroids are actually legal in many countries. Sourcing however will not be tolerated because I don't want quality under ground labs and chefs to be put in danger.
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Awesome post guido thanks for your time and effort

Yes
Yes
HcG
Yes
Legal
Already losing it
One of the most mentally stable people you would ever meet
I lift for personal reasons, I'm not under the delusion that I will become pro some day, certainly it will get to a point where I decide to go for it and give it a go but not for a while
Certainly
And most people know, they don't see it as a big deal

I really want to see some sort of study on the effects of blasting + crusing but there seems to be few to none.



All things considered I will most likely not be blasting and cruising at this point but certainly will be in the future. Ill see how recovery goes and take it from there...

But if anyone else has any input into the subject its still appreciated so throw it in please :)
 
-Guido- said:
Stanazol? Nadrolonne? I know they give cats steroids sometimes to treat loss of lean muscle and low red blood cell count.
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Just found out its on glucocorticoid injections for anxiety... lol Wait till she goes out and it falls asleep, I'll ramp the furry fucker up with Masteron.. lol
 
Honestly, I would wait until you are at least 25 to make the decision to stay on. You are 20 years old and have done 1 cycle. Cycle for now. You will be a completely different person when you are 25.
 
Staying on a dose of Test E 250mg per week for the rest of your life would be really healthy I believe as your hormones drop as u get older, BUT.... u will lose your balls and your hair, HCG will keep the nuts, there are anti-hairloss drugs, but you will still lose it eventually, I would only do this if I knew for a fact I would never be short of gear, and I didn't give a fuck about my hair. But I definitely DO NOT advise even thinking about this to a 20yr old . Not being cheeky mate, but ur just getting carried away, run simple 10 week cycles, eat large and u will gain u are only 20 not 40.
 
I've already lost most of my hair, that isn't an issue, other than that the only negative outcome I can think of is smaller balls?
Really what is the worst that would happen? If I don't ever plan on coming off, then no problem regenerating natty production
 
-Guido- said:
I just turned 28 in May. I didn't start using steroids until 26 and for a year prior I contemplated blasting and cruising.

I made the choice to blast and cruise because my seven years of heroin abuse and some prohormone/designer steroid use from my Seneior year in High School fucked my hormone levels up. Also my Methadone maintenance wasn't exactly helping my hormone levels and body composition.

Cruising and blasting consists of being on Testosterone indefinitely (cruising), a dose that may remain the same always or might increase when you add in other compounds and run them for a while (blasting) before coming off them to cruise again. Cruising for some consists of not just Testosterone, but other compounds as well. I like to cruise on 250mg of Testosterone E weekly and 300mg of Equipoise. When I blast I like 50mg-100mg of Trenbolone Acetate, 600mg-800mg of Equipoise, 250mg-500mg of Testosterone, and varied dosages of choice orals such as Epistane, Turinibol, Superdrol, Methyldienolone, Methylhydroxynadrolone, Methylstenbolone, Methyldihydroboldenone, Halodrol, and some others that slip my mind at the moment.

One really needs to think deeply about making the choice to do so. Are you prepared to inject everyday for years? Are you healthy enough? Are you okay with the possibility of never being able to have children? Are you financially stable enough? Are you prepared to risk jail time? Are you prepared to risk losing your hair? Are you emotionally stable enough? Can you give up recreational drugs? Are you mentally prepared for the fact that no matter how much you train, no matter how much your lift, or no matter what and how much you take, you might never ever become a pro bodybuilder? In some ways making the choice to blast and cruise is similar to making the choice to use heroin everyday. Are you prepared to live the steroid and bodybuilding lifestyle? Could you deal with being ostracized by friends, family, and loved one for your steroid use? There is a great deal of things to consider and questions to ask oneself.

I really don't mind price discussion as long as it isn't rampant and leads to dick sizing. Steroids aren't narcotics and steroids are actually legal in many countries. Sourcing however will not be tolerated because I don't want quality under ground labs and chefs to be put in danger.
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I don't agree with anyone with a healthy HPTA blasting and cruising, BUT I've never heard of a case of anyone not responding to HCG treatment for fertility purposes.
 
Unless you have had blood tests and the results say that you are low on your natural hormone production, I would advise against running any sort of steroid cycle. Yes, there are as stated by the posters here many products that could juice you up. The only problem, you are naturally juiced up already. If you need a boost, there are a lot of supplements designed to increase hormone production safely, and support what you already have. I don't need to go into brand names and stores, I am not an advertiser. I will tell you that at your age, you are just off the assembly line. You are at the peak of your game. My best advice in this would be to start with legal supplements, and if you do not get the results you want with those, then try the 'roids. I tried several Test boosters that were not on the legal market, and a couple other things years ago when I got out of the army. I didn't get anything all that much better than I did while stacking powerful LEGAL supplements, and considering the help I had in selecting the products (several trainers/manufacturers, they made the stuff and had very elaborate production facilities) I had a lot of educated help. It is up to you, but at your age you might get better results in the long term (both in side effects and in long term results) by going the legal route. Good luck either way, and look up the side effects of abusing the products you intend to use. Hair loss and small balls would be the least of your worries if you screw up your cycle and misuse the products. Hope you have the results you are looking for!
 
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