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Heroin wait until w/d's fully pass before using again?

tightlywound

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I'm a recreational hard drug user and am really trying not to become a junkie (good gosh it's hard! haha). I shot up heroin most days over the last week, haven't done any yesterday or today. I've been feeling dopesick and I was just wondering -- to minimize physical dependency is it best to wait before using again until withdrawals have entirely passed, or does it not matter in that respect(once it's it's been a day or two) if I use again while still feeling a bit sick? i.e. wait like 4 days instead of 2?
TIA
 
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If you want to avoid the "becoming a junkie" bit, as you said, you're going to need to use considerably less often than you have been.

You're unlikely to succeed (at not becoming a junkie) if your usage level is such that you get w/d symptoms if you don't use. You're already in dangerous territory.
 
If you want to avoid the "becoming a junkie" bit, as you said, you're going to need to use considerably less often than you have been.

You're unlikely to succeed (at not becoming a junkie) if your usage level is such that you get w/d symptoms if you don't use. You're already in dangerous territory.
Take this to heart and remember it will be a lot less recreational if you're addicted.
 
If your getting dope sick you are 100% for sure physically dependant on opiates. The smart thing to do here would be just to completely quit. Like one of the mods said WD symptoms get progressively worse each time you go through it. If you continue to use you will definitely find yourself in WD again somewhere down the line & it will definitely be worse than this time. Trust me I've been stuck on opiates & suboxone for the last 13 years because I thought I could avoid becoming a complete addict just like your thinking now. My WD symptoms became so bad they actually scared me into suboxone maintenence about 6 yrs. ago against my better judgement. Now eventhough I only take 2 or 3mg of sub a day SL if I go into WD it is soul crushing since I've put myself through so many WDs in the past. Nothing but pain, suffering, & overall bullshit lie waiting down the path your on. Since your already talking about waiting the whole WD out, do it & don't look back. Not trying to be preachy but that is honestly the best advice I can give you.
 
It's not so easy as to "just quit", that's why it's called addiction. But rob27shred is right, its a bad road to go down. If you think your not a "junky" yet, then you should quit H all together. It'll creep back into your mind and you'll crave it long after withdrawals have subsided.. I've never met a "recreational heroin user", even though that's what most junkies start out as.
 
ugh I know. I should have phrased it that I try to be a recreational hard drug user (i.e. in a month I'll spend more days off than on). ;P
I don't get bad w/d's generally, this is the most sick I've been (I feel almost 100% today though), as last week I used more days consecutively than I have before. I've done plenty of drugs and heroin is not even my drug of choice, but man it sure is the one that produces more cravings than any other. bad shit.
I appreciate the advice; I'm actually about to take a break for a month or so more out of necessity(will be spending time w/ my family I haven't really seen for the better part of a year and can't have marks). To be honest though, what's a couple days of misery for a several days of pleasure? I'm miserable anyway so it's not too different. I just try to space my use out enough that w/d's are minimal I guess. hopefully I'll get bored of it soon ...I may not pick up again after this break. I tend to do this w/ drugs, I'll be hooked on a drug for a couple months then I get distracted by another drug and am hooked on that for a while. H distracted me from meth most recently haha.
thanks.
 
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I'm actually about to take a break for a month or so...

Good man. Your OP hints that you already into physical withdrawal territory and actually considering using a couple days after some pretty steady use.
 
^ oh well I'm getting half a gram tonight. the break starts Tuesday, as I'm giving the marks 4 weeks to disappear before I have to go visit family in July. then I'll be there for a couple weeks, so I'll be off it for a bit.
is that bad? I don't really feel sick anymore.
 
Once you are psychially dependnent, using at any point before you are fully detoxed is only going to make your withdrawals worse in the long run.

Yup. That wouldn't really change anything, try not to kid yoruself (I don't mean that in a patronising way at all, that's just what heroin makes you do...). If you really wanna avoid physical dependance and 'becoming a junkie', you should use much less in general and avoid such binges.
 
like rob27 said...the further along this goes...the worse the w/d's get. and man..w/d'ing from pills like the 30s or 80s ws pretty effing bad...but that is NOTHING in comparison to w/d'ing from H. oh my god those w/d's are absolutely BRUTAL. pills never made my vomit...but with H..im upchucking several times an hour and youre too tired to do anything, but too restless to lie down...at least for me....i get reallllllllllly bad restless legs. the H w/d is so bad that when youre going through it..you start thinking that would be easier just to off yourself rather than deal with the pain. (dont get me wrong here people...i am NOT suicidal or anywhere near it...nor would i ever seriously consider it while w/d'ing...just trying to give accurate description of how unbelievably bad the H w/d is.

im not sure at what point you become a 'junkie'...or what the 'qualifications' are lol...but if youre feeling dopesick...than you obviously know that you are ALREADY physically dependent. the easiest bout of w/d's to get over is NOW...your first one...as again Rob said...each one just gets worse and worse. I remember years and years ago (back when my usage went from recreational to EVERY day) sitting at work one day feeling very lethargic and tired. just completely drained of any energy or motivation and some tightness in my legs. i couldnt, for the life of me, figure out why i was feeling that way. this was coming off a several day binge or painkillers (lol..when i used to get rocked taking a 5mg *sigh* )...and later that afternoon, i got my hands on a couple more pills...and magically the lethargy and discomfort disappeared completely. it was at THAT very moment that i first realized i felt that way because of withdrawals, and not just some natural bad day kind of thing. if i had been smart, i would have taken that warning sign and paid attention to it..but i didnt, and almost 10 years later..as i mentioned..if i go into w/d's NOW...i am so far beyond hell that i will do virtually ANYTHING to relieve that pain. i will NEVER forget that moment in that day those years ago when i first realized i was dealing with w/d's...was one of those, what they call, a 'watershed' moment for me...and not in a good way!

so yeah...just keep that in mind that each successive bout of w/d's will get worse and worse.

good luck!
 
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