Harm Reduction Fentanyl Transdermal Question

[Diloadid]

I have found the 100mcg fentanyl patches by Malli to suck when used transdermal.

I have also found sublingual to be quite useless.

So I am thinking about smoking some of this...

Is there any success in smoking the 100mcg Malli patches?

 

[Psychedelic Jay]

If it’s not the one with the gel...

One must chew....

 

[Diloadid]

Thanks Jay.

I have a piece I'm chewing on now.

I had some fentanyl HCL a while back that was much easier to use. Chewing seems to be fairly effective tho.

 

[Psychedelic Jay]

Don’t overdo it.

Use it like nicotine gum. Chew it till you feel it, then just hold it in your gums...

 

[LilithDevil81]

Is it okay to eat the fentanyl patch after chewing on it?

 

[Psychedelic Jay]

Is it okay to eat the fentanyl patch after chewing on it?

No, you will not digest it. Possibly even block your intestines.

 

[Diloadid]

So last night I took two of the 100mcg patches off of my body because after chewing and smoking enough pieces I finally started to feel a tad bit ill. I wanted to save the other two patches but didn't know quite the best way to save a transdermal patch.

I put one wrapped loosely in foil and stored in my deep freezer and the other I wrapped folded up against itself at room temp on a piece of tin foil.

I am chewing on a piece of the room temp patch and notice that it doesn't taste as strongly of fentanyl as it did last night. I can still taste it a slight bit, but it doesn't seem as potent.

Did my shoddy storage procedures deteriorate some of the potency? Or where I had already had it applied transdermal would it continue to release the medication even tho it was not applied to myself at body temp?

They release 100mcg over 72 hours so some medication should still be in tact, just curious for future reference.

 

[tricomb]

PLEASE reconsider. Save them for when you actually have the tolerance to use them as directed, if you must.


It takes 13 hours for a a patch to transdermally begin producing significant effects, usually by which time a fatal dose of fentanyl has been absorbed under the skin and is simply waiting to be released into the person's bloodstream.


I would destroy them on sight. Fentanyl is not a toy.

 

[Cadamec]

No, you will not digest it. Possibly even block your intestines.

It will not block your intestines, but the stomach acid will destroy the drug itself if the drug is on the adhesive. I do not know about the ones where the gel is in the center.

PLEASE reconsider. Save them for when you actually have the tolerance to use them as directed, if you must.


It takes 13 hours for a a patch to transdermally begin producing significant effects, usually by which time a fatal dose of fentanyl has been absorbed under the skin and is simply waiting to be released into the person's bloodstream.


I would destroy them on sight. Fentanyl is not a toy.

where did you get this info? I am feeling the drug within an hour or two of putting the patch on. One would need a whole days worth of breakthough meds just waiting for it to kick in if that were the case.

I am really starting to wonder about some of your advice on fentanyl except for your sincere desire to practice harm reduction. That I do applaud.

However, you folks that want to mess with Fentanyl really need to understand that dosages are dispensed transdermally by the MICROGRAM. The entire patch contains a few milligrams. When you attempt to get more of the drug released at one time, you risk an overdose every time. I may have just questioned some information given by a mod, but he does know how potent these damn things are.

Hospitals and anesthesiologists do not give you more that a couple a hundred micrograms with life support breathing apparatus on hand or already installed in you. Get it?

 

[tricomb]

questioned a mod...? what?

It's written on the patient information prescribing information pamphlet I believe, released by the manufacturers... Let me pull up a source.

I have felt fentanyl way before 13 hours transdermally too, but I think the 13 hours marks some sort of important pharmacological milestone, perhaps it's the time to peak.

The FDA lists 12-18 hours.

 

[tricomb]

What part of my post are you questioning? That it takes 13 hours for your body to absorb enough fentanyl to reach peak mcg/hour rates or at least some sort of significant milestone? I read that out of a medical textbook and I'm sure there are plenty of others who will attest to this.

This does not mean that it's impossible to feel the fentanyl BEFORE the 13 hour mark.