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Caught with RC, they think its LSD. Will they find out?

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long story short, swim got his car searched by the pigs. They found a tiny amount of marijuana, and a tab of what they assumed to be LSD. Of course swim played dumb and said that its probably just a piece of paper on the ground. The cops told swim that they would send the tab to a lab, and have it tested for LSD. Swim knows the tab has no LSD on it, only something in the 2c family. Will the cops test for RC's? Since there is only one tab, will they waste it on an LSD test and not be able to prosecute swim? Thanks for your help
 
Did some research. It doesn't appear that any chemicals in 2C family are illegal and it's not an analog of any controlled substance - so even if they do test for RC's - you should be fine.
 
We don't use swim here we all know this is about you. Swimming will not protect you legally so don't even bother. Anyways if the rc is legal you should be fine. However it is illegal to sell rc's as lsd; they will charge you for selling lsd even if it is a rc or something that isnt pyschoactive at all
 
I wasn't selling it, there was only one tab. However when the drug labs receive the tab, will they think to test for RC's? Or just test for LSD and report negative?
 
It depends on the test they use. If they are just testing for lsd then it will be negative, if they use a reagent test they can narrow it down to one substance
 
Salvinorin A said:
It depends on the test they use. If they are just testing for lsd then it will be negative, if they use a reagent test they can narrow it down to one substance
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I am a lab tech, and use GC/HPLC/UV spectroscopy. If they have one tab (1), they are limited in terms of what they can test for. The best hope of performing a non destructive analysis is multiple extractions with different types of solvent, possible derivitization with a flourophore or something similar and GC analysis. Maybe a gel based assay.

I wouldn't worry if I was caught with one tab of anything, that's just me.

If they make claims as to what was found, challenge the credentials of the tech who ran the sample. What kind of qualifications or training they possess. What sort of standards were run. How was the instrument calibrated. What is the maintenance record of the machine. Has it ever had any documented problems.

Good luck.

Tom
 
^Thomas Davie has all the right points. 1 tab is not much material to test from, and i beleive it will go something like this (depends on how hard-ass your state/city police are):

a) they try to coerce you into ID-ing the substance.
b) they tell you they have/will send it for testing
c) your courtdate will arrive and there will likely be no test results. They will tell you to plead guilty for the marijuana in exchange for "dismissing" the LSD charge (they will almost certainly still refer to it as LSD, and not know the real content - however there are still laws about trying to pass off common things as drugs, such as people selling baby powder as coke)
d) by the time c) occurs, you should have a good lawyer on your side who will advise you how to answer to the charges/plea
e) you will most likely get away with a marijuana possession charge and if it is your first offense you'll probably receive fines, community service, probation terms, and might be asked to go for counselling. (if your lawyer advises you earlier to start counselling on your own initiative, you should do so)
 
SwampFox56 said:
Did some research. It doesn't appear that any chemicals in 2C family are illegal and it's not an analog of any controlled substance - so even if they do test for RC's - you should be fine.
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You must be a shitty researcher bro. I just felt you should know.
 
i would hope that no reasonable police department would prosecute someone over 1 paper square, LSD or not...

if the nbomes are legal in your jurisdiction you are free and clear.

nbome legal everywhere?
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not any more

wiki 25i said:
The United States Department of Homeland Security is currently attempting to prosecute someone in federal court with 25I-related charges under the analogue act. Virginia, Louisiana, and Florida have specifically scheduled 25I-NBOMe as a Schedule I controlled substance.
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Very likely NBOMe. Could be DOx. Very likely not 2C-x... But I recall one is potent at around 2 mg or something.

If I recall right, the 2Cs were made illegal not long ago (U.S.).
 
The worst they can charge you with is possession. The test will come back negative for LSD, and you can stick with your story of "It was just a piece of paper" and you will most likely get the charge dropped.

They won't test it for an RC. I had a similar experience and after they tested it and it was negative for LSD, they dropped my charge. And that was a strip worth. One tab? They won't waste their time.
 
Just as a point of reference....

I've never tested anything where I had to testify in a court of law. Although I was allowed to perform the tests, my boss assumed all responsibility for any testimony that might have occurred. We charged $500 for BAC analysis, and extra for court testimony. Although I no longer do human testing, the lab I currently work in charges 1-200$ per sample.

Time to process (and run) a sample - multiply it by hourly wages, and believe me techs ain't cheap.
Cost of materials and reagents
Instrument (GC) use
A premium just because (this sounds shitty, but analytical labs do it all the time....the sentiment is if you can get samples analysed for cheaper elsewhere, go ahead).

Testing one (1) tab will cost the police at least $200 (my guess), and they can't be bothered to spend that, so they'll try to pressure you into admitting what it is. You know the drill....zip it, never admit anything and play dumb. Courts won't bother to attempt to prosecute without analysis.

Thomas Davie
 
Once a friend of mine had about 2g of 2c-I cut with lactose (so as not to make empty looking gelcaps nobody would buy, but still in its bag) so it looked a lot like typical eastern canadian pcp (pcp cut with lactose powder). And they were all super happy of getting that (they really hate pcp). Well hilarity ensued, first after analysis they tried to say it was related to mdma, then after further analysis, well, the dept. of justice of my province sent the stuff back since it isn't part of any list of illegal products and there's no such thing as an analog law here. lol, I wish you think kind of luck.
 
My pet stripper got caught with a tab of something or other and it tested negative for what they initially tested for.. Over a year or two later and unbeknownst to her, she was charged with whatever minute trace of whatever illegal drug was actually (supposedly) in it. Schedule 1 - Felony. Negotiated down to a misdemeanor after several months, thousands of dollars, and eventually a 30 day stay in county instead of the probation she knew she would/could not comply with.

It can happen. and NEVER consent to a search of your vehicle. You never know what fell out of someone else's purse/pocket, etc...

Never consent to a search: http://youtu.be/ueQMuEqRGPg

Never talk to the cops: http://youtu.be/i8z7NC5sgik
 
If I'm not mistaken as long as the chemical is in a form which shows it is meant for human consumption, for example, being dripped on a blotter, then it is illegal.
 
Well, given that pretty much every popular 2c drug is illegal in the US, not sure how you could be mistaken about it lol
 
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