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Opioids Using codeine to prevent OxyContin withdrawal

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I take anywhere between 100mg and 200mg oxy a day. 100mg is usually on days I just want to feel good and not withdraw, 200mg on days when I wanna get high.
Like so many of us who are addicted to prescription medication, we run out before the next prescription is due. I get my next lot of OC's 72 hours from now. I only have enough left to last me 24 hours.

I have 56 x 30mg codeine (pure codeine phosphate, no acetaminophen) tablets so a total of 1680mg of codeine. I also have access to DXM and Promethazine.

How much should I take and how often? I want to be totally WD symptom free and maybe even feel a little good. At least enough to sleep.

Once I took 350mg codeine (way back before I was taking opiates regularly) and my blood-pressure flat-lined and my face swelled up and I got bad diarrhea (I know codeine usually makes you constipated...bizarre) and my whole body burned with an unbearable itch. I was told this was a massive rush of histamines being released. Right now I have a MUCH MUCH higher opiate tolerance and I also have plenty of Benadryl, Loratadine and Promethazine available to stop that happening again and also to combat the horrible codeine-itch.

I was thinking of taking 120mg codeine with 20mg promethazine every four hours and maybe 300mg codeine with 60mg promethazine before bed so I can sleep. What do you guys think? Is that enough?
 
If your habit is that large, it just isn't going to happen. Speaking as a health professional, I'm sorry, but it just won't. Codeine isn't going to do shit except keep you out of withdrawal.

Obviously, you need to be taking antihistamines with the codeine.
 
Morphling said:
If your habit is that large, it just isn't going to happen. Speaking as a health professional, I'm sorry, but it just won't. Codeine isn't going to do shit except keep you out of withdrawal.

Obviously, you need to be taking antihistamines with the codeine.
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It will keep me out of withdrawal, though? That's by far my main concern.
 
It might, it's worth a try. Just take a little at a time, be careful with it. Don't dose too largely, you'll put yourself at risk.

It may keep you out of withdrawal, but I doubt it. You're going to withdrawal. Hard.
 
Morphling said:
It might, it's worth a try. Just take a little at a time, be careful with it. Don't dose too largely, you'll put yourself at risk.

It may keep you out of withdrawal, but I doubt it. You're going to withdrawal. Hard.
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Stop scaring me! And I doubt it. I'be gone up to 37 hours before and not felt all that bad.
 
You can live three days. To be optimistic, hopefully you won't experience withdrawals at all, with the help of the codeine. In my experience with oxy, as both a nurse and and addict...I don't think so.
 
I wouldn't raise the dose for sleep sleeping through light WD is very feasible. Also i don't see the the value of planning out your dosage schedule in advance , much better to take it as it comes , maybe you need less than 120 the first day or so.

P.s try to get some extra sedatives while you still can. Seroquel for sleep would allow more codeine for during the day
 
i'm almost in the same exact position. i've been dosing the exact same, 100 - 200 mg of oxycodone a day. i have an unlimited supply of pure codeine pills since i'm in europe. i take 200mg of codeine every couple hours sometimes in combination with some tramadol. i'm fine, it should keep all your withdrawals away, i even feel buzzed. 100 - 200 mg of oxycodone a day isn't that big of a habit that will make it impossible to avoid withdrawals with other weaker opiates imo. if u have any wds they will be mental, i.e. just missing the oxycodone high.

i have to wait until friday :(
 
Phat5o said:
i'm almost in the same exact position. i've been dosing the exact same, 100 - 200 mg of oxycodone a day. i have an unlimited supply of pure codeine pills since i'm in europe. i take 200mg of codeine every couple hours sometimes in combination with some tramadol. i'm fine, it should keep all your withdrawals away, i even feel buzzed. 100 - 200 mg of oxycodone a day isn't that big of a habit that will make it impossible to avoid withdrawals with other weaker opiates imo. if u have any wds they will be mental, i.e. just missing the oxycodone high.
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Thanks :)
And good luck! Sucks when this happens.

I do have enough to take 30mg oxy on each of the 2 days so I might take 5mg 3 times a day...might help slightly.
Frequent doses of codeine, anti-histamines and dirarrhoea medicine should make it bareable.
 
that's some hardcore self control right there lol. jk. but it kinda is. are you sure you couldn't completely eliminate withdrawals with codeine only? cuz like i said i'm basically on the same dose and i have no problems whatsoever if i gotta switch for a couple days. tramadol also does the trick for me, it won't make me feel a buzz, but 400mg of tramadol will make me feel similar to being on a suboxone dose for the day
 
I'm not sure. I'll probably just and get by with just the codeine.
I don't have that much willpower lol, I'll probably end up using my last 80mg I have left tonight. Day 3 is supposed to be the worse anyway and I won't be going that long.
Probs like Monday 2am to Wednesday 9am..
I'm gonna take lots of promathazine and Night Nurse etc to try and sleep as much as possible.
 
For me day 2 is always the worst. Day 3 it gets alot better and Day 1 I just feel a little "off". In my experience, almost any low dose of an opiate has wavered off withdrawals.

I have woken up sweating badly (think sweat dripping of my forehead onto the floor), quickly CWE'd 200mgs of Codeine and stopped it instantly. Then the next day the withdrawals would be more than cut in half, not even sweating. So it will help, most likely stop the withdrawals. It just wont get you high obviously.

Also be careful with the promethazine. Too much, and you will feel sleepy but no be able to sleep. You will be lying there, feeling every heart beat, tired as fuck and not able to sleep, and it is not pleasant either (like a benzo). With prometh, less is more.
 
If you have enough to take oxy 30mg for the 2 days (unless I misunderstood) take 10mg every 8 hours. You shouldn't start feeling symptoms of withdrawal until about 12 hours have passed since your last regular dose. If you really really need the codeine on top of that then take a little but with the symptoms you have had with codeine I would try to avoid that.

It only takes a very small percentage of your regular dose to keep you from withdrawals. You won't feel high but it should keep you from feeling like total shit. As far as self control goes, if you are scared enough of the withdrawals you will be motivated to stick with those split up doses of oxy you have left to keep you from being sick as a dog! If I were you I would be scared! Surely the thought of that can keep you motivated enough to stick with the small dosing for 2 days. Then you can nback to the dose that makes you high. Just remember it is a terrible cycle and it sucks to go thru it month after month and if you keep going you will find that those days that you have remaining before your next script is due with no pills will continue to increase (speaking from experience). 2 days isn't bad, but then when you go a week or 2 weeks or more with no meds it is pure hell.

Also a suggestion, search some of the BL threads regarding using immodium to help with withdrawals. It does help!

Good luck and be careful because if you aren't it will continue to get worse every month
 
The longer you wait to dose, the better the codeine will work. It's hard for it to fill the shoes of the oxycodone, but if you wait until you are really sick then it should at least make your withdrawal symptoms subside. The worse you feel, the better the codeine should make you feel, but it's unlikely to help much if you just take it at your next scheduled dose of oxycodone since it isn't strong enough to take its place.
 
Hey good advice missmeyet maybe the OP needs to go through a little hell so that he can learn to be more disciplined, however i have to admit this never worked for me the last withdrawals i had did scare me straight though been more or less sober for 2 months.
 
I personally think Kratom would be superior to codeine. I've seen countless people use it with success kicking an Oxy habit.

Large amounts of OTC Immodium as well as some magnesium and benzos should help a fair bit with the physical symptoms as well...
 
Codeine has bad histamine Release the Dosage Large enough to keep all withdrawal away would be fucked up to say the least lol.
 
BingeBoy said:
Hey good advice missmeyet maybe the OP needs to go through a little hell so that he can learn to be more disciplined, however i have to admit this never worked for me the last withdrawals i had did scare me straight though been more or less sober for 2 months.
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That's great bingeboy! Good for you.

And I know what you're saying, its still really hard to have that self control. Withdrawals from oxy are rough, especially at a little higher doses (at least they are for me...I wouldn't wish it on anybody!)

It took me a couple of times going through full blown withdrawals and holy shit, that was enough. I mean its one thing when you have 2 weeks left and 2 pills then screw it, you might as well go ahead and take what you got left at one time. But if you only have 2 days and you have enough to take even 30mg a day til you get that relief, split it up.

Tomorrow when you are sick as a dog you will be kicking yourself that you had that few hours of feeling awesome (as you lay on the bathroom floor, freezing, sweating, unable to keep your legs still enough to sleep or even rest and so tired you just don't think you can get up and walk around again to relieve some of that feeling in your legs. Also, you can't leave the bathroom because you will shit your pants with pure liquid feces several times before you can make it back to bathroom and probably vomit on the way too!)

Like I said, it is hard to hold onto those but after a couple of times of going through this, let yourself have the beginning of those WDs and you will be so relievedd that you have that 10mg that you will be sure to hold onto the rest of them so after the next dose starts wearing off and you start feeling those WDs coming on again you will take that 10mg and be overjoyed (well maybe not overjoyed!). You won't be high, but you will feel so much better than you did an hour ago that its almost as good.
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