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I was unfaithul to her, and now she wants a quick engagement.

Weldon

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Hey people, I thought some input might help as I don't have a lot of close friends or family to talk to about my current situation. Here goes.

My girlfriend and I have been in a relationship for 15 months. Last month, we went overseas together for a four week period. A few days before the trip ended, we both went out on a bender/bar crawl. Long story short, she went home at 2am and I stayed out. I was unfaithful to her that night.

My actions were extremely selfish, totally foolish and dangerous, and seemingly without any logical reasoning. Was I was out of my mind? Yes, in a sense, but I still can't really come to terms with how or why I did what I did. It was fucked up, and I'm full of guilt. It was the first time I'd done anything similar, and it was way out of character. I'll move on before it seems like I'm begging for sympathy, because I'm aware I shouldn't be. This post is not so much about the cheating incident itself, but rather the aftermath.

I told my girlfriend what I did a day and a half later. My guilt was eating me up, and I couldn't stand lying to her. Obviously, she was shattered. I won't go into the details of the situation that was created between us, but as you would expect it was a deeply emotional and difficult time for her. We talked about everything for hours, and then talked some more. There was no anger, just sadness and confusion mostly.

It's now about two weeks since the incident occurred, and we are back living together in our home country. We are still together but things are not completely resolved. In the aftermath, the situation has become more complicated. I will try and break it down as simply as possible.

Despite what I did to her, my girlfriend still loves me and I love her as well (Yes, I know...how I could do something so bad to someone I love is something I still have not come to terms with, but it happened and I cannot take it back). Clearly her heart has been broken, but it is not beyond repair. She has made big mistakes in the past, and learnt from them. In this situation, she is of the opinion that I deserve a second chance - and for this I am extremely thankful. She wants to and is willing to forgive me...with one condition: We must get engaged (as soon as possible) otherwise she will not have the trust and commitment from me that she needs to be able to move on and rebuild the relationship.

This is a hard time for her, and I know I must always put her feelings at the forefront of my mind and focus on helping her heal in whatever way I can. There are many things I need to do, and I am willing to do those things, learning from my big mistake to become a better partner and person overall. But to be honest, a quick engagement was not really what I had in mind as the first and best thing to be doing in a situation such as this. That is not to say I would never have wanted to get engaged to her in the future. I expressed this to my girlfriend, but she is standing (very) firm in her belief that unless we become engaged now, we will have to break up. I understand she needs to build back her trust. I understand she needs me to be committed (both to her and to fixing my own personal problems). I understand she needs time and love and everything else to fix her pain. But something is nagging at the back of my mind...is this the best course of action for us to take so soon after a traumatic event? Again, I feel bad for even talking about my feelings here when it is her feelings that have been so hurt by my actions. To disagree with what she wants feels wrong in this situation, as I know this is a time when I should be doing all I can to help her.

But: If I hadn't fucked up like I did, we would not be getting engaged yet. My best guess would be that it would have been at least 6 months before we would have seriously brought up the issue of engagement and talk of the future again. Yes, she had talked a number of times about our future together and what she wanted out of me before the infidelity incident. I had always remained positive, agreeing that her ideas seemed great but suggesting we should keep things as they are and give it some time to see how we go over the next year. I was sincere, and she had agreed. In other words, we hadn't decided to become engaged yet – both of us had not yet made a serious commitment to our future and were happy the way things were. I realise I screwed all that up by my actions.

Now, the pressure is there to make such a commitment, and quickly. And I do feel pressured. But I also feel bad for feeling pressured, if that makes sense. Is this unfair for me to say considering the terrible thing that I did to her? Should I just suck it up and do what she asks of me? Or, is she being a bit unfair on me by giving me what is essentially an engagement/commitment ultimatum?

My own thoughts were that we should go to professional counseling together, open up all of our issues and be totally honest with each other in order to better understand ourselves and try and rebuild the relationship. We could also both get back into our work and in our spare time do positive things together (sports, fitness, etc.). Then, after some time, we could assess how we are feeling. But she is of the opinion that an engagement is necessary first. And she really genuinely seems very willing to forgive me and move on if I agree to this!

Finally, I should point out one other thing. My girlfriend is 10 years older than I am – she is 36, and I am 26. The age difference has never worried me (people who first meet us believe we are the same age, or that she is younger) and we get along very well most of the time! I only mention it because at the back of my mind I wonder if her sudden pressure to engage may also have something to do with her age and not just the fact that I hurt her by being unfaithful. I may be wrong.

Anyway, I'd like to hear some opinions from you guys on what you think of this situation. I'm prepared to be told how much of a terrible person I am for doing what I did, and that maybe I don't deserve anyone etc. I accept that. But also:

Have any of you had a once off cheating experience and told your partner? If so, what did they do? Women, do you think a quick engagement would be a way for you to 'get over' an incident like infidelity and start to move on? Is such a demand acceptable considering the seriousness of what I did to her?

There are many who say you should never feel pressured into a commitment. But on the other hand, after someone cheats and they are offered forgiveness they should really be willing to do whatever it takes to rebuild the relationship, right?
 
But you are being pressured. The way I read it is she will forgive you only if you are engaged immediately. The whole thing seems off to me. You cheated and that wasn't the smartest thing to do but oh well, what's done is done. You confess (I would have said nothing) and she forgives with stipulations. Getting engaged right after a cheating episode is not the right thing to do. I think she is afraid of losing her security (you) and this is the only way to keep you "in line" so to speak. I think wanting you to engage to get forgiveness is also her way of having some control over you since she couldn't "control" your actions that fateful night.
I would not rush into this. You said yourself something didn"t feel right. I can respect you looking out for her feelings and I get it but in the end you have to be true to yourself. Oh and get rid of your self pity. You made a mistake move on. Don"t take any more guilt trips or give yourself any more over this situation. You are absolved. Good luck.
 
But I also feel bad for feeling pressured, if that makes sense. Is this unfair for me to say considering the terrible thing that I did to her?
No, it's not unfair of you to say that.

Should I just suck it up and do what she asks of me?
No!!

Do you really want to end up married with someone because you were forced/blackmailed into it? I know the word 'blackmail' makes it sound extremely dramatic but that's kind of what she's doing no? :\ You shouldn't get engaged unless you want to. Not because you feel you have to.
Consider this - what if you do get engaged and it fixes nothing? What if she still can't trust you afterwards? Then you'll have made this massive commitment for what might end up being nothing, and you'll probably just both be more hurt in the long run. Obviously no one can know but I'd honestly speculate it wouldn't actually help her nearly as much as she thinks it would.
The ideas you mentioned for rebuilding trust really seem much more productive in my opinion. I dunno. This is a pretty awful situation for you to be in (yes yes, you cheated, and that was shit of you, but she still really shouldn't be doing this) but I dunno...an engagement shouldn't be a forced option. Just really reconsider what you want from this relationship.
 
The way I read it is she will forgive you only if you are engaged immediately.

which leads me to ask - is that really forgiveness? If she does love me and is willing to forgive, why such a hefty price attached to the forgiveness?

I think wanting you to engage to get forgiveness is also her way of having some control over you since she couldn't "control" your actions that fateful night.

I'd thought of that. She did lose control of me that night, and something pretty bad happened. Undoubtedly she feels the need to regain control, and also believes that she is able to demand a lot because she is hurt. I'm worried she may continue to use this against me in the future, even if I never cheat again, which would be unfair.
 
You shouldn't get engaged unless you want to. Not because you feel you have to.

Yeah, definitely. And even she has said this to me repeatedly. In her eyes, she isn't pressuring me because I have a choice - I can easily leave, or I can stay and get engaged. What frustrates me a bit is that there doesn't seem to be any middle ground.

Just really reconsider what you want from this relationship

I will, for sure. I can't know the future. I do love her, and enjoy being with her. But maybe things have gone too far now, and there is no way of getting things back on track in a way that we both agree on. I hope not. Hopefully I can get us into some counselling together before any deadlines are announced which may help.
 
sounds like a quick fix for trust issues and i don't know if it will work if used for that purpose

you should be getting engaged because you want to be married to her

if you really want to marry her then get engaged- its up to how you feel and only you know that honestly
 
which leads me to ask - is that really forgiveness? If she does love me and is willing to forgive, why such a hefty price attached to the forgiveness?

I'd thought of that. She did lose control of me that night, and something pretty bad happened. Undoubtedly she feels the need to regain control, and also believes that she is able to demand a lot because she is hurt. I'm worried she may continue to use this against me in the future, even if I never cheat again, which would be unfair.

I agree with both that first question and the fact that she might continue to use this against you. I think you're handling and understanding the situation very well, which is why I just hope you can manage to make her realise how unfair it is that she put you in this situation - and how unhappy it risks making the both of you.

I will, for sure. I can't know the future. I do love her, and enjoy being with her. But maybe things have gone too far now, and there is no way of getting things back on track in a way that we both agree on. I hope not. Hopefully I can get us into some counselling together before any deadlines are announced which may help.

Yeah, if I were you I would really do my best to get her to agree to another way to go through all this. I mean, as you said - if she wants to get engaged that would suggest she truly loves you, but if she truly loves you, why risk losing you like this?
 
ah fuck it just get engaged, if it doesn't work out it's not like you're married right? so you can just leave whenever you want. It doesn't really tie you down or anything; it's an overly emotional move on her part, probably to get that sense of control but if you still love her and she will actually stick to her guns about this engagement thing (my guess is she probably won't) then i guess this is your only option to stay together.

Of course after making that decision i'd probably resent her and i'm sure you'd end up cheating on her just for that reason alone, maybe make that point. Really, i wouldn't get engaged either under those circumstances. She's probably bluffing and going through a bunch of emotional shit but getting engaged at this point, IMO, can only make things worse, other than keeping her happy for a temporary period of time.

you could always do one of those infinitely long engagements and just pretend that nothing happened, because in reality being engaged is just you proposing an idea, not actually following through with it, unless there are legal things i'm unaware of when you are engaged.

Some people could even rationalize not telling their partner they cheated because it causes them emotional pain while relieving your own guilt, thus taking the pain from you and putting it on your partner, when you were the one who caused it in the first place. So from a utilitarian stand point, not telling her would create a greater amount of happiness than telling her.
 
Anytime you cheat one someone--you are NOT ready to be in a committed relationship with them. She just needs revalidation that you're going to remain with her and faithful. You need to reassure her another way (take her out to nice dates, flowers, blah blah blah + presents).

Forcing your hand in marriage just isn't right. But then again, 50% of couples get divorced so what's the big deal anyway. ;D

Edit: After reading your posts-- dayum! Hostility? You obviously are pissed off (salty!) about your girlfriend's engagement request. I think we all know you're not going to do it. -.- TALK TO YOUR GIRL. Tell her she's right, it's your choice and you want to work on things as a couple before you take the next big step. And do everything I said above, kiss her butt and hang out with her everyday and reassure her. BUT, honestly, it sounded like you're done with her (usually happens when people cheat)-- I didn't really read (well, I skimmed) your super long post... but are you still in love with her? It kind of sounds like you're using this engagement demand to get out of the relationship.
 
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I wouldn't like the ultimatum: get engaged now or it's over. Does she really believe being engaged will prevent any further cheating? Or getting married for that matter? You said that you've been together for 15 months. Do you two live together?

You have a hard decision to make. If you're not ready to spend the rest of your life with this woman, then don't get engaged. Tell her you're not ready at this point in your life for marriage. In my opinion, getting engaged is a promise to get married and the expectation is there that it will happen. Do you plan to have children ever? Her clock is ticking. You're still much younger than her. Don't get pressured into something you don't really want.
 
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engagement and or marriage is not a bandaid for problems within relationships; and certainly not a healthy foundation to repair a lack of commitment issue. if both of you truly believe that this is going to be a magic solution in resolving the pain and rebuilding the trust that has been broken as a result of you cheating; and not create larger problems in the future, you will be sorely disappointed.

...kytnism...:|
 
I'll tell you this Weldon, if you walk away from this relationship now it'll hurt but I've been divorced twice and I can tell you divorce is the worst thing I had to go through in my life. A lot of people can talk bullshit about if it doesn't work out just divorce. These people either don't know what they are talking about or they are devoid of any real feelings. I can tell you are a sensitive person so think about your situation long and hard before you propose.
 
Anytime you cheat one someone--you are NOT ready to be in a committed relationship with them. She just needs revalidation that you're going to remain with her and faithful. You need to reassure her another way (take her out to nice dates, flowers, blah blah blah + presents).

Yeah, you don't seem ready to be engaged, let alone married. I mean, if that's all it takes for you to cheat, who knows what you would do in the future? Yeah, she's pressuring you. But I don't think you're ready for an actual relationship with her.
 
OP, I think you should insist on relationship counselling before any decisions are made.

I'm 33 and I think the age gap is a bigger issue than you realise... have you two addressed the major questions about your future at all? For example:

Does she want children? Do you? When would you start trying for a family? At 36, her clock is ticking.
Did you cheat on her with a woman younger than her? Is she very conscious about the age gap? Does it make her insecure?
You might be at different stages in life. She might be ready to settle down at 36. Are you? Where are you both at career wise?
She's feeling like she's losing you and there was something in you sabotaging the relationship to have gone out and cheated like that. What is it? If I told you now that she is the last person you'll ever be with, the last woman you'll ever have sex with, the last woman you'll ever love... would that be ok with you or freak you out?

All of these need to be addressed. And loads more. She has to realise that, engagement or no engagement, you need to be able to work together as a couple to figure out what you both want/need and what the future holds, instead of your unilateral action (cheating) followed by her unilateral ultimatum.

And finally... did you use a condom? If not, get yourself tested ASAP.
 
Wow if a guy actually cheated on me I'd break up with him right away I mean no offense but there is definitely no engagement happening whatsoever
 
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