Unable to achieve any kind of 'trip'. Thoughts?

[Samuelg]

Hello all, i utfse'd this and found a couple of archive'd threads but non of them had anything particularly relevant so i thought i'd fire up a new thread, I'm a fairly experienced drug user who has dabbled in pretty much everything, my psychedelic experience however is lacking and only recently been investigated with disappointing results.

Visuals are a thing of myth to me, the only near visual i remember was back in my youth when i found a bottle of DXM heavy cough syrup in a cupboard while on holiday in spain (so many drugs there) and even that as far as i remember was a more CEV and more dissociative-y than hallucinogenic, since then i have tried around 70-80mg of AMT, fairly high dose MDMA and some acid i was assured was "not half bad" and i've had nothing in the way of tripping which sucks. AMT in particular left me with a 14 hour jaw clench-a-thon which is best described in the words of someone else's trip report on here as a "Interesting and humorous highly stimulated 12 hours". The acid left me with a bit of a racing mind and some odd thought processes but not even any morphing.

The amt debacle i have since realised could have been due to me being on citalopram at the time which explains a lot however the acid was 4 days after taking 200mg of dosulepin and a week after the NSAID naproxen so there is no mitigating factors for that.

My knowledge of hallucinogens and psychedelics is limited but i'm unable to find any kind of pharmacological info as to why this might occur, i only ask for your input due to my interest in psychedelics has changed from a casual interest to a real desire to experience something mind changing and profound.

The TL;DR version of this is - Does anyone know why i seem to be immune to tripping in the traditional manner, perhaps im just not taking enough ?

 

[wayab]

i have had "amt" once that was not trippy at all and alot of times i have had weak acid.
i would assume the substances you have tested are to blame and not that you are unable to trip

 

[rickolasnice]

Sounds like you had a low dose of LSD..

Everything else sounds normal.. Try a higher dose?

 

[sekio]

everyone experiences psychedelics differently

especially if you are expecting "crazy visuals" or whatever, most of the time you will be disappointed... it seems most people get the best out of their psychedelics when you approach it with no expectations.

it would also help if you avoided taking snri/ssri drugs for ~2 weeks before you trip.

 

[Clocktower]

^+1, the less you expect, the more you get.

Yeah, what's your medication history? If you're taking psychiatric medication and psychedelics within days of each other, that may be what's causing your problems.

 

[plusfourpirate]

pretty much what everyone else said,heh.
amt gets quite a wide variety of response..some love it, some get sick from it and hate it. i personally dont care for it..
the L could have just been weak, but being on an SSRI seems to have a big effect ln quality and strength of tripping in general.

 

[rollinstoner]

Eat 1.7 - 3.5g dried mushrooms then come back.

 

[TangerinO]

Yeah I have friends who don't really experience visuals, when certain doses blow me out of the water in terms of visuals. All people react very differently, and also you haven't had a huge background based on this post.

You eat enough mushrooms, you'll get there, no matter who you are.

 

[slimvictor]

What Rickolas and Sekio said.

 

[unfuckwitable]

what are visuals???









AMT is an ugly compound & not likely to produce anything resembling an enjoyable experience. the blotter you took was likely low dose & quite possibly not even LSD, what with all the research chems available these days capable of being dosed on blotter. of course i am only speculating and nobody can be exactly sure @ this point. benzodiazepines and other anti-anxiety or antidepressant pharms can severly dampen what would otherwise be solid psychedelic experiences. also, as others have mentioned, approaching a trip w/ hopes, expectations or worry can leave you disappointed or result in dissatisfaction - any combination or all of these things may have contributed to your "inability" to achieve the effects you seek.

some quality LSD or 3.5g psilocybin will surely take you where you want to be. best of luck and ALWAYS exercise caution & safety when engaging in consumption of ANY psychedelic compound.

this forum is overflowing w/ information you'll benefit greatly from reading - skim through a few threads of interest & absorb some.

 

[thf]

I had the same issue so what I did is just take way too much of everything. I've dropped acid several times and not tripped; I burned through about a half gram of 2-cb titrating my dose up before I just decided to go for it and do 40mg; 5-meo-mipt did nothing for me until I hit 15mg. I think the main issue for me is that I have a very logical mind and I'm not prone to letting my mind run amok. So basically I just did it with brute force. The first chemical that gave me undeniable and intense OEVS was dmt. If you really wanna see some shit, go get some dmt and take a nice 150mg hit. Another chem I found particularly visual was DOC. Truly an incredible compound. Another important factor is the set and setting. I did the same dose of 2-cb two weekends in a row; first time I got essentially nothing and then the second time I decided to go outside and hangout with more of my friends and I ended up having a mindblowingly good time. I will remember that night for a long time.

Anyway, my main message is if you wanna get results, get high quality product, get yourself some good set and setting, and don't be afraid to push yourself.

 

[.:Holy::Toast:.]

Take a real psychedelic if you want a real trip.
Start with 3 grams of decent cubensis and trust me, you'll get visuals.

 

[unfuckwitable]

and don't be afraid to push yourself.

yes, be afraid, if not extremely cautious.

encouraging people to dive head first into heroic doses of psychedelic drugs is incredibly irresponsible & quite honestly, in poor taste.

ask the dozens of recently deceased individuals who decided to dip a wetted finger into a bag of 25-x-NBOMe if they would have preferred to start smaller and work their dosage up w/ great regard to safety & wellbeing - catch my drift?

and no, five hits of quality LSD won't kill you, but someone who has reported to have never experienced solid effects from any psychedelic compounds should NOT take a dose this large - it's a recipe for disaster!

life is too precious to throw all caution to the wind & risk what may be, if not your ultimate demise (in the case of some omnipotent PEA's & substituted amps), an exceptionally difficult, frightening, or mind-bending affair. start w/ low, or common doses until desired effects are reached, especially if altered consciousness and sensory perception is all you are seeking from any given psychedelic.

 

[Help?!?!]

yes, be afraid, if not extremely cautious.

encouraging people to dive head first into heroic doses of psychedelic drugs is incredibly irresponsible & quite honestly, in poor taste.

ask the dozens of recently deceased individuals who decided to dip a wetted finger into a bag of 25-x-NBOMe if they would have preferred to start smaller and work their dosage up w/ great regard to safety & wellbeing - catch my drift?

and no, five hits of quality LSD won't kill you, but someone who has reported to have never experienced solid effects from any psychedelic compounds should NOT take a dose this large - it's a recipe for disaster!

life is too precious to throw all caution to the wind & risk what may be, if not your ultimate demise (in the case of some omnipotent PEA's & substituted amps), an exceptionally difficult, frightening, or mind-bending affair. start w/ low, or common doses until desired effects are reached, especially if altered consciousness and sensory perception is all you are seeking from any given psychedelic.

There's no need to be a fool. In my mind to much fear and succumb to it during the trip, to little "fear" or "respect" and the psychedelic will usually lash your back with metal chains to teach you a lesson. This isn't always the case but anyone i've seen who was to hard headed eventually lost it and those who were always to fearful could never find the right ground. I'm fairly certain that the 2 hits I took were fairly high dosed, I had an absolute blast, and moved forward never yet to look back. I agree they shouldn't shoot for a super high dose, but LSD plays fairly nice with most people and can be forgiving in certain terms. No reason to be a fear monger, people can see that 25x's are causing deaths all over the place and your information seems confused, i've never heard of anyone "wetting a finger then dipping", nearly every death if not everyone was caused by insufflation.

 

[unfuckwitable]

pardon me for wording that incorrectly - several NBOMe deaths have been as a result of insufflation, though there also are deaths reported of individuals opening packages and "tasting" w/ great disregard for safety and proper dosage.

the point is, ALWAYS begin w/ a reasonable dose regardless of your seemingly "natural tolerance" to psychedelic substances - one should be RESPECTFUL of these compounds, but APPREHENSIVE, or fearful of incredibly heroic doses (of chems potentially toxic w/ larger dosage). anyone who values their life can understand this.

just because you reacted well to two blotters does NOT mean others will. i still wouldn't ADVISE someone who has never tripped to take any more than a standard dose their first time testing any newly obtained compound.

OP will find his/her ground & hopefully it won't require one or more mistakes as a result of dosing too high. again, it is irresponsible to tell others to "push the limits a bit".

 

[Help?!?!]

pardon me for wording that incorrectly - several NBOMe deaths have been as a result of insufflation, though there also are deaths reported of individuals opening packages and "tasting" w/ great disregard for safety and proper dosage.

the point is, ALWAYS begin w/ a reasonable dose regardless of your seemingly "natural tolerance" to psychedelic substances - one should be RESPECTFUL of these compounds, but APPREHENSIVE, or fearful of incredibly heroic doses (of chems potentially toxic w/ larger dosage). anyone who values their life can understand this.

just because you reacted well to two blotters does NOT mean others will. i still wouldn't ADVISE someone who has never tripped to take any more than a standard dose their first time testing any newly obtained compound.

OP will find his/her ground & hopefully it won't require one or more mistakes as a result of dosing too high. again, it is irresponsible to tell others to "push the limits a bit".

Guy it was a simple example, were just reposting what each other said with small additions, IMO your to fearful which only brings on anxiety but it doesn't matter. I've taken fair end doses for my first time on more than a few psychedelics after tripping for sometime, its not a huge deal as long as your fully prepared for the consequences that may occur. I like that your fearful of for the OP, but don't let your fear leak into their mind and affect them negatively. If the OP seems to be a hardhead when it comes to tryps let them try a bigger dose, if they have access to tons of LSD then fine I would tell them to start slow, but I doubt thats the case and LSD, once again can be a very forgiving psychedelic in certain terms. The OP was medicated so I would advise a smaller dose but either way I never even advocated taking a large dose in the first place...so your problem is with someone else! I mainly responded to your fear mongering about certain things in hopes to quell that a bit and make it more....who knows, but something.

There's absolutely no reason to think of the value of life when consuming even a fair dose of LSD if you tripped before and have experience, with 25x sure be frightened but LSD....if your prepared...not so much!

 

[unfuckwitable]

hence in parenthesis (of chems potentially toxic w/ larger doses). these PEA's & substituted amps can result in very real danger. certainly it is not my intent to instill fear in the OP - only to recommend comprehensive preparation, consideration to dose of chems whos' hazards can & will become very apparent the larger the dose ingested.

as for LSD, as i've previously stated, physical harm to oneself is virtually impossible as a direct result of the drug. however, psychologically, even a psychedelic as forgiving as LSD has the contingency to culminate in some less-than-pleasant effects.

there is no real 'argument' here, if that's how you've interpreted our discussion. quite frankly, i'm beginning to repeat myself, but @ the risk of sounding redundant - it's difficult for me to sit back unresponsive to a member encouraging (what seems to be) an unexperienced OP to "just take more" of an unidentified chem. that wouldn't make me a very good custodian of harm-reduction, now would it?