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Oxycodone versus Heroin
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opium
Bluelighter
ive never smoked heroin, only bang it or snort.
i find the euphoria to be close to equal if you do the same ratio oxy/h
but a swallowed oxy's euphoria will last a hell of a lot longer than any ROA of H
i find the euphoria to be close to equal if you do the same ratio oxy/h
but a swallowed oxy's euphoria will last a hell of a lot longer than any ROA of H
Al Prazolam
Greenlighter
In my experience, and also that of every opiate/opioid user I know, smoked diacetylmorphine(heroin) beats the hell out of orally administered oxycodone. In fact, smoking heroin is better than ANY type of orally ingested opiate/opioid. The reason for this is the rapidity of onset of effects, which is usually only a couple of seconds. This method of administration allows large amounts of the drug to enter the system in a shorter period of time. Orally ingesting a drug means that the drug must first be disolved in the stomach before it can slowly begin to enter the bloodstream and eventually end up in the brain. Smoking heroin produces a faster and much more intense high than oral oxycodone. However, as the first reply states, the effects of orally ingested opiates last much longer than any other method of administration.
Now, your question about a conversion ratio: comparing oxycodone to heroin "pound for pound" so to speak would be next to impossible because the actual diacetylmorphine content of heroin (and 6-monoacetylmorphine, in the case of black tar heroin) is never consistent. Unless, of course, you're talking about pharmaceutical-grade diacetylmorphine. So, even if you were to determine the actual opiate content of your heroin, you would never be able have an accurate ratio because of the inconsitensy of street heroin.
Of course this is not possible with all oxycodone pills, but have you tried to smoke or insufflate your oxycodone? Or do you just prefer to eat them? Nothing at all wrong with the latter, everybody is different. I hope I was able to offer some sort of help.
A.P.
Now, your question about a conversion ratio: comparing oxycodone to heroin "pound for pound" so to speak would be next to impossible because the actual diacetylmorphine content of heroin (and 6-monoacetylmorphine, in the case of black tar heroin) is never consistent. Unless, of course, you're talking about pharmaceutical-grade diacetylmorphine. So, even if you were to determine the actual opiate content of your heroin, you would never be able have an accurate ratio because of the inconsitensy of street heroin.
Of course this is not possible with all oxycodone pills, but have you tried to smoke or insufflate your oxycodone? Or do you just prefer to eat them? Nothing at all wrong with the latter, everybody is different. I hope I was able to offer some sort of help.
A.P.
hangyourhead
Bluelighter
Oxymorphone IR was fucking godly! Never got to IV though 
Well, here's the thing, smoking heroin (it's crucial that it's a batch of heroin that can be properly smoked) will have much more a rush than orally dosed oxy, because I believe that when heroin is smoked you get that 6-MAM conversion in the brain to morphine which is the rush all those that inject heroin dedicate their lives too. It's just not nearly as potent as IV when it happens via smoked ROA).
Orally dosed oxy will have a slower onset, yet longer peak and duration, and a high BA %. You will know the exact potency you're getting because it's produced by pharmaceutical labs; FDA approved. The high of oxy is more stimulating and the euphoria is strictly subjective.
Due to this question mainly being subjective to the user, it can't truly be answered. Opinions and experiences can only be shared.
Well, here's the thing, smoking heroin (it's crucial that it's a batch of heroin that can be properly smoked) will have much more a rush than orally dosed oxy, because I believe that when heroin is smoked you get that 6-MAM conversion in the brain to morphine which is the rush all those that inject heroin dedicate their lives too. It's just not nearly as potent as IV when it happens via smoked ROA).
Orally dosed oxy will have a slower onset, yet longer peak and duration, and a high BA %. You will know the exact potency you're getting because it's produced by pharmaceutical labs; FDA approved. The high of oxy is more stimulating and the euphoria is strictly subjective.
Due to this question mainly being subjective to the user, it can't truly be answered. Opinions and experiences can only be shared.
Psychedelic Jay
Bluelighter
One major question...
Did you have freebase heroin?
I don’t think you would say oxycodone is better if you did. Trust me...
Did you have freebase heroin?
I don’t think you would say oxycodone is better if you did. Trust me...
hangyourhead
Bluelighter
One major question...
Did you have freebase heroin?
I don’t think you would say oxycodone is better if you did. Trust me...
Exactly... so make sure ya know
Ive always enjoyed heroin way more than oxycodone. OC just kinda doesnt do it for me the same. a little bump of good dope and im on top of the world. a couple oc 80s later and im still confused about why im not half as high as i should be
I must be the exception. I find oxy way more euphoric and satisfying than heroin.
For example, 80mg IR hits me within 30 minutes and the euphoria is pretty noticeable, I'll also get a slight nod plus the satisfaction remains for a long time. In fact I won't need to dose for ~24 hours.
I could smoke a quarter gram of heroin and experience no euphoria, absolutely no nod and not even feel remotely satisfied. I actually feel disappointed because the goal with heroin for me was always the nod.
It could be the gear is intended for IV use, or an 80mg IR tolerance might require more gear than a quarter gram.
I don't even know what freebase H is.
Never snorted or smoked oxy. Didn't know you could smoke it and oral BA shits on insufflation, I have plugged it before when I couldn't wait after eating a large meal.
I get your point about a strict conversion formula, but a rough approximation should be observable through anecdote if nothing else.
There'd have to be a few of us here who know x amount of oxy gets me off, and y amount of gear feels about the same.
For example, 80mg IR hits me within 30 minutes and the euphoria is pretty noticeable, I'll also get a slight nod plus the satisfaction remains for a long time. In fact I won't need to dose for ~24 hours.
I could smoke a quarter gram of heroin and experience no euphoria, absolutely no nod and not even feel remotely satisfied. I actually feel disappointed because the goal with heroin for me was always the nod.
It could be the gear is intended for IV use, or an 80mg IR tolerance might require more gear than a quarter gram.
One major question...
Did you have freebase heroin?
I don’t think you would say oxycodone is better if you did. Trust me...
I don't even know what freebase H is.
Never snorted or smoked oxy. Didn't know you could smoke it and oral BA shits on insufflation, I have plugged it before when I couldn't wait after eating a large meal.
I get your point about a strict conversion formula, but a rough approximation should be observable through anecdote if nothing else.
There'd have to be a few of us here who know x amount of oxy gets me off, and y amount of gear feels about the same.
Swimmingdancer
Bluelight Crew
We don't do "which drug do you like best" threads (no HR value in that). Between oxy and heroin it's a matter of personal preference. I know people on both sides. You are not an anomaly for preferring oxy.
There is no conversion ratio of smoked heroin to oral oxy, that's impossible to figure out because street heroin is of unknown purity and varies greatly, plus of course everyone is so different. Only thing to do is start very low when switching from one to the other.
Base heroin (aka "freebase") is the kind that is best suited for smoking, it is the kind that is widespread in Europe. It is kind of a beige colour and does not dissolve in water unless you add an acid + heat. The heroin in North America is most often either heroin hydrochloride (powder which can come in a range of colours) or tar heroin. Heroin hydrochloride is harder to smoke effectively.
There is no conversion ratio of smoked heroin to oral oxy, that's impossible to figure out because street heroin is of unknown purity and varies greatly, plus of course everyone is so different. Only thing to do is start very low when switching from one to the other.
Base heroin (aka "freebase") is the kind that is best suited for smoking, it is the kind that is widespread in Europe. It is kind of a beige colour and does not dissolve in water unless you add an acid + heat. The heroin in North America is most often either heroin hydrochloride (powder which can come in a range of colours) or tar heroin. Heroin hydrochloride is harder to smoke effectively.