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GF won't let me return the favor

dopemaster said:
Dude a girl sucks you off all the time and doesnt expect you to eat her pussy. Im sorry but whats the complaint? Is this a bragging forum. Now if you can get her to cook you dinner and clean your house you might have a keeper.
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Why the fuck would I want any of that? I don't particularly like getting oral. It's ok, it can be hot in the right context, but ain't my thing over all. I LOVE nomming a chick, and I don't want someone who cooks me dinner and cleans up like all the time/as an expectation. I'd like to split that equally or even do the bulk of it myself, and instead have a girl who is smart and engaging to me intellectually.

I have that so no complants from me. But your idea of what's brag worthy or a keeper makes me throw up a little.
 
Rangrz you sound like a feminist woman for christs sake. I love to get my cock sucked. If a woman doesnt expect you to eat her out, no problem for me. I absolutly love a women who keeps a clean house and can cook. Whats wrong with that? In another thread you said you dont like sexy lingerie and high heels. I like sexy women personally. Whats wrong with women who fix themselves up all sexy? Sexy women are not always dumb, but I dont need a rocket scientest for a gf, but it oks if she is smart. But whats important is compatability. I guess I look for beauty and kindness. I also like a woman who does women stuff like cook and clean. I know thats a bit sexist, but I like that old fashioned concept of providing for a woman and her making the home a nice place and preparing the meals.
 
I don't like lingerie and heels in particular. I like other sexy outfits. I was making a point that not everyone shares the exact same taste in what is sexy and what is not. I like more "cute" than "hot". Think short skirt or high cut dress, making stockings, flat shoes or open toe sandals. Or like some ass kicking boots (like the sort I wear) with fatigues and a tight white wife beater, or an alty look. Corsette, dyed hair, docs, fishnets, etc. A know a lot of guys would not like that as much as heels and lingerie, but then again, some prefer it. It should not be assumed that it's an objective thing. I like sexy women too, just my idea of sexy may be a little divergent from some other people's.

Sound like a feminist woman? Well, that doesn't really make sense on a tautological basis, cause I'm XY with functional SRY and a cak. So I can't sound like a feminist woman, just because of what the words themselves mean. I'm guessing you probably don't know what "tautological" means or have much background in formal logic, so if it went *wooosh* over your head like a F-15E over Abdul's head, don't worry.

I'm pretty egalitarian, I'll give you that.

I do need a rocket scientist, or a brain surgeon, or a particle physicist, or something similar for a GF. Why? Because I don't like interfacing with the unwashed pleabian masses very much, and I want a girl who can hand me my intellectual ass on a silver platter as often I hand her ass to her.

IDGAF about getting my cock sucked, and I *like* to nom a girl. So whatever, diff sexual preferences.

Cooking and cleaning? I like to cook. I legit enjoy it. So why would I want her to do it all and steal my fun? Cleaning? Well, ideally, I'd hire a maid. But without that, I'd rather my partner dedicated more time to being dope, learning shit, doing useful shit, and having fun that dusting the fucking mantle.

I want an equal, like I want a fire team partner. Not a cadet.

inb4 not a "real man"
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Honestly Rangrz Im done talking to you about this stuff. You are a bit pompous and I hope you find a woman that has the proper credentials.
 
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You are right Pagey. I think this is getting a bit off topic. Im not sure what ticked him off in the first place, but Im done responding to this individual.
 
yesh! let's all just argue over preferences. i'll go first - chubby/curvy girls are the sexiest, hands down. if you disagree then you suck dick. also a woman that sucks dick < a woman who can have a proper orgasm.
 
I look for girls that are pretty and skinny. I also tend to like girls that are tall, but its not neccesary if shes really pretty. Im not really into big tits. As far as vaginas, the tighter the better and I hate pubic hair.
 
She's not slim but she's not big so I would say curvy (38 ddd) big butt Italian girl. She doesn't have a 'fragrance' down there and she's quite clean. I've always preferred my women to have some meat on the bones. I let the whole thing go, if she wants or wanted me to do it she would have told me.
 
Have you ever considered telling her that her wetness really turns you on?

I think thats the best way to help a girl get over an insecurity of any kind. Just give tons of positive attention to the percieved problem area, obviously the wetness in your case, and then just really go for it. Maybe start out with a finger or two down there, and when she starts getting wet say something like 'mmm youre so wet, its getting me hard' and then show her (that her being really wet gave you a boner, doesnt matter why you really have a hard on as long as you say its because shes so wet). Do this as frequently as you feel comfortable with, and maybe even mention it other times as well (like 'i was thinking about last night... you were so wet, i loved it' or something). Anyway, its worth a shot, although if shes still really resistant after a week or so (or a few times of trying that approach) dont piss her off or get too pushy with it.

Good luck! :)
 
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I didn't read all of the posts just the original one, if she's not into getting oral sex and does not like it there's nothing you can really do since she's not into it. I have dated men who did not want me to give them oral sex at all even though I enjoy doing this to a partner/boyfriend so we didn't do that. I did not feel "selfish" or "guilty" because I did not give these men oral sex. I've never had sex with a woman but have you tried talking to her or finding out what does turn her on?
 
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