Can you see "Witchy" eyes?

[Ninae]

Don't have time to answear more questions about this right now, but would just like to say, yes, there are male ones too. Only I wouldn't really call it a "witchy" look as it's a bit different, though can be almost identical, I guess.

Princess Madeleine is also different from the others in that she has more than just the witchy look, she has something demomice/possessed about here. She's also never been a bitch (at least not before) but apperead very pleasent and well-mannered, as she was raised very stricktly.

Madonna has more what I call the "witchy" look, as well as the bitchy look, she's the classic example.

But I have learnt how to serparete between conscionsness-energies, that is higher and lower energies, lighter and darker energies, good, and evil, etc. Also between demonic and angelic energies. I've spotted quite a few by now (not so hard when you get the feel for the energy and their typical qualities) though I always check it out with someone else to make sure I'm right as I don't fully trust myself yet.

I've seen quite a few of angelic origin lately, actually. Here is one I spotted just recently in the public eye. Didn't really see it coming as I hadn't excatly looked at him that way before. Still, my feeling was very strong, then I had a more talented psychin than me confirm it for me.

I guess most of you will recognise this individial. He can be pretty disgusting but has always appealed to me for some reason. And one day I just looked at him and thought "He's an angel". He just had that energy about him and that typical expression of childishness, friendlyness, harmlessness, and greater capacity for love and joy than usual. You can also hear it in his voice, there's an innocence to it, like you can often see in his face.

He also has great charisma and prescence and people have always loved him and been drawn to him. No matter if he looks like crap, it's his inner consciousness they recognise and love. My guess is he sabotaged this life and it didn't turn out how it was supposed to be. He was supposed to use his talents to stand front as a good example and be a positive influence. He also has a lot of good karma, one way he can get away with all that stuff, and I think he's done great things on Earth before. If you see that old clip of him as a teenager you can also see the promise of something totally different. But he was seducd into the world of rock and drugs (as glamorous as that has been for him).

Guess you didn't expect this one, but life is complicated and there's so much that's not like it seems, that's why trying to understand it willl make you slightly mad (or at least seem to be compared to others).

 

[Ninae]

And here are two of the female variety - not much suprise there:

 

[7ca5p]

Yes, I was assuming you said Ninea was delusional, which seemed to me the logical interpretation.


Well, you don't know me in real life. I am a much more kind, emphatic and tolerant person than my posts in this thread may suggest. But, in the end, there is a limit to tolerance and the validity of the ideas of others. Rationality is the standard for what is right and wrong. And frankly, whatever Ninea has been posting here for months, comes not even close to rationality. And in my eyes [sic.] it's only getting worse. Just be patient, if you have been long enough on BL you can already predict how these kinds of stories typically end.

I think my response was not out of line. It was naturally driven by the same psychological mechanism of racism, fear of the otherness qua otherness, fear of the incomprehensible otherness of people. And to be honest, if my children had pictures floating around on the internet, I would be pretty devistated if Ninea was looking at their innocent faces and claiming my children were demonicly possed and were "actively involved with withcraft or dark forces, unconsciously in touch with that world." If she lived in the same street as I did, I would not even allow my kids to play outside anymore. In my opinion, to put it mildly, the behavior exhibited by the OP is really not healthy.

In the end, whatever people's beliefs are, I don't think we should be universally tolerant. Rationality is the standard for what is acceptable. Therefore people must not expect any gentle response from me whenever they start talking about: psychics, paranormal things, reading people's evil energies from pictures, their ability to communicate with angels, the fact that they hear the voice of Jesus, or their self-proclaimed genius and exceptional gifts that makes them superior beings, etc.

I agree with 99% of this.

I assume(d) your post to me was an attack on me, claiming that I had used the term 'delusional' out of place or incorrectly. I thought that by saying 'For educational purposes only' you were implying that you though 'I' needed a better education, which I found insulting.

If this is what you meant then I am still insulted. Although, if I have misconstrued something then I wholeheartedly retract my judgement, and admit my mistake and confusion.

But yes. I agree. Strong belief in paranormal or pseudo-sciences concerns me just as much as yourself. It's frightening that people can put so much energy in to the irrational.

Ninea, please talk to a doctor or a psychologist about what you are posting on here.

With respect, it is nonsense. You're not a psychic, nor is there any evidence there even is such thing as psychic ability. The brain can be deceptive, and I feel you are being convinced that you have abilities that do not exist. We are humans, we are animals, we are all in this together. There are no such things as demons, especially not inter-dimensional ones.

But when you start to gain access to the 4th dimension, the dimension of energy and energies that can be used to enchant and manipulate people, these things lose some of their power over you as you can see through them.

This makes me think you are trolling. Honestly, it is that nonsensical that it has to be a joke. How exactly did you gain access to the 4th Dimension? Why has no one esle ever been able to? What technology did you use?

You also realise that the 4th Dimension is widely believed to represent time right? And not some shady universe filled with evil spirits? Why would these energies want to manipulate a rather pathetic species of humans, who are meaningless in the scale of the universe? Do these same energies want to 'enchant' chimps? They have conciousness too you know. Cats? Do they get let off? Mosquitoes? Snails? Where is your line drawn?

I really hope you are just plain trolling.

 

[Psyduck]

I agree with 99% of this.

I assume(d) your post to me was an attack on me, claiming that I had used the term 'delusional' out of place or incorrectly. I thought that by saying 'For educational purposes only' you were implying that you though 'I' needed a better education, which I found insulting.

If this is what you meant then I am still insulted.

I was not making a personal attack on you, or correcting your grammar. Don't worry The reference to the dictionary was to indicate the participants of this thread how relevant the oxford definition was to describe the behavioral traits of the OP.

But as I promised earlier. If I cannot say anything constructive about the OP, I will just keep quiet. Further discussion is irrelevant anyway. Even if I wish *the best* for her.

Every 6 months similar cases turn up on BL (hint: BL is a drugs-related community and some members maybe have taken too much drugs)... and in my experience it's really difficult to convince them that something "might" be wrong with them, and that it "would be better" to seek professional help.

 

[SideOrderOfOpiates]

What you call 'witchy', I call blatant prescription drug use &/or the aging process affecting iris pigmentation. I suggest you get informed before you start judging the moral compass of another human being based on a a genetic fucking defect. Individuals with blue eyes, like those who you have posted, have been scientifically proven to be far more susceptible to more evident pupil dilation and constriction. It is also common sense. If a person has blue eyes with a constricted or dilated pupil, wouldn't you agree that it would seem a bit more pronounced than if they were brown and dilated or constricted? While that was a completely discredited and biased photo to post of Marilyn Monroe, the gal was a full-blown prescription drug addict! Her eyes ARE going to look different! Why? Because the substances in her body produce that effect! They will have it no other way!

Also, 10 to 15 percent of of the Caucasian population (predominantly those with lighter eyes) will experience eye colour changes with the aging process. This is because eyes do not synthesize color pigment continuously. With that said, if the pigment degrades, the eye color lightens. Likewise, if the number of pigment granules increase or produce a darker pigment, the eyes will become darker. Genetics also play a massive role in eye colour—as does health and possible health problems. To say that an individual is 'evil' or 'angelic' due to a physical trait they had zero control over at their time of conception, is not only the works of a fanatical know-it-all, but is also completely mindless.

 

[What 23]

7ca5p, I am with you in much of this... But the assumption that humans are pathetic (in many ways sure, but in every way? We built rocket ships, man. Name another thing that can do that... That has the potential for creating/spawning entire universes... Yes.. we do. Down the road) is a bit far.

I believe things might be at work. I have felt (or entertained ideas based on occurrences) that unseen forces "feed" on us/manipulate. The feeding can be good for us, or bad. One might promote more of the good things growing in our fields, to harvest, and keep them growing. Some may just want to suck us dry. They may not know any other way.

...Just some thoughts that I have had, sprung from similar ones out there, and personal experience. The end result for me has been simply trying to be more mindful of my emotions and conduct in life, and trying to be better. At least one that I think matters.

Sometimes I have also entertained the idea that I am like a crystal. And "I" am the center, and my sides are many. And there are many centers... And I am a little confused, maybe.

I was going a different direction.

My mind sometimes calls them Aliens. Sometimes there are good, and bad ones. Sometimes they are angels or demons. Sometimes it is just one force wearing different faces... Acting different parts, to coax me. I am the silkworm. I am the processor. They (it?) get what they want. I am alone. And I may even be them. In fact I think that that is inevitable. But here I am. I serve. I guess.

Am I host? ...Worm? Both?


I guess then by my idea some certain things might be shining through people. But I guess for me, I don't like to make my mind up about it. I would rather not judge something as bad, but some opportunity for "good"... Something good. Something progressive. If I die, I was a sacrifice. "Evil" does not win.

 

[Ninae]

I don't have any interest in arguing about this or defending myself in terms of how "delusional" or "irrational" I am. Especially because as usual at least 1/3 of what I write is misunderstood or taken the wrong way. Doesn't seem to matter how much I try to steer you on the right path.

As for this thread, it was never meant to be soooooo serious. It was meant more as a lighthearted thread that would give you a laugh, as obviously it's an outrageous topic with no way to prove. So there really wasn't any need for all this heated discussion and personal attacks.

And I wasn't trying to push my truth on anyone. I was just saying it was MY truth as I could see it (with my present abilities) and wanted to see what your reactions would be and if anyone can see what I saw. That's all.

Also, it's very much a fact that the topic of non-verbal clues, reading people's body language, and energy through their eyes, face, or voice - theyr whole being - are not exactly widely taught topics. It's not like we are taught of them in school. It's rather esoteric as it can give you a lot of power over people if you can master it. Power to reveal lies, to see feelings, and even thoughts forming in someone's head. And I don't believe it's desired by people in power (whatever they are defined as) that we generally those skills.

Also have you ever heard the saying "Feelings are so much more powerful than words". This is very true because words can lie but feelings (which is a form of energy) tell the full truth (unless someone are a very accomplished actor or energy manipulator). So both words and actions can lie, but feelings/energy can't. Or what would make you more happy - seeing pure love shining out of someone's eyes or hearing them say I "love you" in an everyday-tone of voice?

I've just started learning about and getting a grip on these things myself lately and can't believe how much I can see now that I missed before. I use to be completely closed off like that and would only go by people's words and take it as the truth, like a child. Now I know immediately when I meat someone if they like me or not, if they're of a friendly or hostile disposition, how spiritual they are, etc. It's always correct and quite amazing, really.

I think non-verbal clues ARE far superior to words in many ways as it's a much more direct expression. Even good actors fuck it up all the time. I don't really see why this is so hard to understand or why there is so much objection to it. Just to stay happily ignorant?

And I wasn't talking about the guy's looks or good-lookingness but the overall feeling about him. You can't say he looks like a nice guy. By "primitive" I meant low-consciousness, unrefined, brutish, etc. Not in the sense it's often meant as being closer to the animal-kingdom and not a proper human.

I also don't do psychedelics - never tried LSD.

 

[CoffeeDrinker]

Fake smiles makes anyone look crazy Ninae. Stop pretending you know what's behind people's eyes, because you don't.

I've gotten down the trick of not looking away from you when I lie after years of drug use. I'm sure loads of other people have as well. The stakes of not getting kicked out seemed pretty high to me at the time, but I'm sure the people in higher levels of societies feel much higher steaks on a daily basis, so their lying capabilities are probably honed to a degree I wouldn't want to imagine, and practiced to a degree that would make me queasy.

Putting all your eggs in the basket of trying to judge a person based on their eyes will only lead you astray.

I think you've got some good points though. Non-verbal methods of reading someone are very important and real, and I'm not gonna make fun of you for being so convinced about your ways of going about it. I just think it's misguided to be so certain, because people can and will always surprise you.

Who cares about some figurehead's daughter anyway?

 

[Ninae]

What you call 'witchy', I call blatant prescription drug use &/or the aging process affecting iris pigmentation. I suggest you get informed before you start judging the moral compass of another human being based on a a genetic fucking defect. Individuals with blue eyes, like those who you have posted, have been scientifically proven to be far more susceptible to more evident pupil dilation and constriction. It is also common sense. If a person has blue eyes with a constricted or dilated pupil, wouldn't you agree that it would seem a bit more pronounced than if they were brown and dilated or constricted? While that was a completely discredited and biased photo to post of Marilyn Monroe, the gal was a full-blown prescription drug addict! Her eyes ARE going to look different! Why? Because the substances in her body produce that effect! They will have it no other way!

Also, 10 to 15 percent of of the Caucasian population (predominantly those with lighter eyes) will experience eye colour changes with the aging process. This is because eyes do not synthesize color pigment continuously. With that said, if the pigment degrades, the eye color lightens. Likewise, if the number of pigment granules increase or produce a darker pigment, the eyes will become darker. Genetics also play a massive role in eye colour—as does health and possible health problems. To say that an individual is 'evil' or 'angelic' due to a physical trait they had zero control over at their time of conception, is not only the works of a fanatical know-it-all, but is also completely mindless.

I don't really appreciate your arrogant and hostile tone when 100% of this was based on misunderstanding. I never said a word about physical looks. All I was focusing on was the energy-aspect of it - though you need some experience of it to get what I mean.

I only choose the picture of Monroe for the typical "angelic" expression in it (which isn't just on a fantasy-level).

 

[CoffeeDrinker]

Physically, it seemed that you were putting the images of her with wider eyes and/or a plastic smile into the category of "demonic," while sticking with your self-admitted bias towards blondes as angelic.

Just an observation though.

For your consideration, and possibly an interesting experiment, I'd like you to try and avoid white people completely because you have some ingrained biases it seems. Just try and judge the purity levels of someone black, asian, or latino. Most of whom have the same hair and eye color. Does your ability to "perceive purity" extend to those with the exact same bone structure, hair/eye color, and mannerisms?

 

[Foreigner]

Just a reminder to participants in this thread that the discussion should be kept civil and courteous, even if you find yourself disagreeing with others. Thanks.

 

[Ninae]

How come so many on this board can only seem to enjoy themselves by being offensive and throwing insults? It doesn't even help to be friendly to them, that just makes it worse. It's like they don't know how to just enjoy interacting with people and appreciating people (apart from a few exceptions).

Maybe they just haven't grown up in an environment where this was done - or have too much pent-up aggression to get rid off?

I recommend a change of speed, a change of style, a change of scene, with no regrets.

 

[CoffeeDrinker]

I know the last two posts aren't in reference to me...

Non-sequiturs are generally frowned upon in a debate setting.

In case you are taking about me, Ninae, your clairsentience must have failed you because I genuinely did not attempt to insult you, and you made a mistake in assuming I did.

You said "it's not based on the physical," and I made an observation of your conclusions that could lead someone to think you are simply looking at the physical. I also proposed an experiment that would shut the people up who claim you ARE just looking at the physical.

 

[alasdairm]

How come so many on this board can only seem to enjoy themselves by being offensive and throwing insults? It doesn't even help to be friendly to them, that just makes it worse. It's like they don't know how to just enjoy interacting with people and appreciating people (apart from a few exceptions).

Maybe they just haven't grown up in an environment where this was done - or have too much pent-up aggression to get rid off?

I recommend a change of speed, a change of style, a change of scene, with no regrets.

another used (also called ninae) posted this:

Though I like to be careful about being too judgemental...

are you two perhaps related? ninae #1 should have a word with ninae #2.



alasdair

 

[-=SS=-]

I think all the OP intends to say is the common saying: "the eyes are a window to the soul". There is, a lot of truth to that IMO.

Yeh, but in person.. photo's don't capture whatever subtle essence is behind the eyes. I think the OP is reading far too much from, well, nothing basically. A single frame doesn't reveal the kind of depth he/she is insinuating it does. I mean that "angelic" lady just has a baby face and features that are wide.. she looks innocent, but you know she might be into fucking dogs or something. Unless you are actually able to see inside someones head I don't believe in reading people well enough from physical appearance alone..

With the exception of this turd:

 

[CoffeeDrinker]

The cigar says way more about him than his eyes imo....

 

[7ca5p]

I was not making a personal attack on you, or correcting your grammar. Don't worry The reference to the dictionary was to indicate the participants of this thread how relevant the oxford definition was to describe the behavioral traits of the OP.

But as I promised earlier. If I cannot say anything constructive about the OP, I will just keep quiet. Further discussion is irrelevant anyway. Even if I wish *the best* for her.

Every 6 months similar cases turn up on BL (hint: BL is a drugs-related community and some members maybe have taken too much drugs)... and in my experience it's really difficult to convince them that something "might" be wrong with them, and that it "would be better" to seek professional help.

Oh I see. I apologize! I obviously misinterpreted your post!

I 100% agree with your stance on this.

It's a shame that she will play it down, when in reality these kind of beliefs can often bloom in to much more serious problems.

 

[RobotRipping]

ever notice how so many people look like lizards?

no such thing as good or evil, so i don't buy the whole witch thing but if you are using 'witchy' just as a place holder then fine, maybe you can see some similarities in their eyes and feel a certain emotion from eyes in such shapes. But they are not good or evil, maybe something else, maybe associations you have with girls with eyes like that, who knows.

From my psych use i find a lot of people look the same, like there are set amount of people who are completely unique and then there are people who are just variations of those. Like i see someone who looks exactly like a friend, though a bit different, or i see many people who look the same too but slightly different. Kind of strange, i just always wondered if they were related somehow lol. Like looking at different breeds of cats or something.

 

[Foreigner]

^ I've noticed that before too... like there are a certain number of facial templates for all of humanity, and only a few people who seem to diverge from those.

 

[What 23]

Yes. Like template faces/models.

I get/got the lizard bit too. I remember watching Bill Maher (spelling may be wrong) on 2C-D and saw the "reptile" in many. It to me seemed more prominent on right side.