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Ice ... It's a hell of a drug.

It's all about the ROA ... I use it orally around 20mg's before work and it doesn't get me 'High' but I do the work so efficiently it's ridiculous.
 
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I've been clean for 2 years and I am still struggling. Does anyone know what I can take for energy so I don't feel like sleeping all day? I'm still tired all the time and my motivation is just not there. It sucks man! None of those fat burners/energy pills work! Coffee doesn't work =/ any advice?

The fact that you might take something for motivation is just all wrong...no wonder you've got no motivation...like looking to catch a train down at the beach...lol
Motivation doesn't come from taking shit...duh...slow learner or what? If there is a lion in the street, he comes at you, I just know you'll have so much motivation, just like I know drug-abusers have shit for brains mostly by choice...you have no less motivation than the rest of us...lazy people use every excuse under the sun...if you want to admit you're a lazy bum, or that you need some real excitement in your life...or whatever, good for you...only when you come looking to see what you can "take", that might what...magically give you a free ticket out of life's hardships...surely you must know how pathetic that looks...
remind's me of my lame-ass excuses...

Best wishes...really :)
 
Does anyone know what causes your tongue to move fast on some gear and then not on others, on round same quality/dose gear? One I will get big pupils, faster h/b, energy and good feeling with no tongue movement, pretty sure was D-meth and the other pupils not as big, heart beat slightly fast, feel more stoned, disoriented, first time Iv felt almost a bit panicy with feeling of things running on my skin and tongue goes crazy, feels just like meth but way more of a unstable high. They look basically the same, crack back the same way and doesn't seem to be any cut in either of them..everything seems the same but the high? I have had same feeling off 1-2 different batches in the past but mostly Its a clean high like the first.
Also has anyone smoked themselves into psychosis even if they haven't been up all night? Is that an OD?
 
Crikey, just recovered from some strong-ass meth.
Got a gram bag on Thursday, had a big toot* on Friday arvo and a little more on Sat morning, didn't really stop tweaking until I woke up this morning (Tuesday) and finally felt normal.
Haven't had shit like this before, really strong. Pretty damn more-ish too, which is a first for me and meth. I usually just snort a point or so and I'm right for the next 24 hours or thereabouts. This shit had me hanging for more, although I managed to resist.
Comedown was a bit harsher than normal too. Xanax helped a bit but still felt on the shit side.
The high was good though; energetic, clear (as crystal? :P)...I've quit alcohol recently and I found I didn't crave a drink at all while on this stuff.
First time getting from this source, don't think I wanna be doing this shit all the time.

*toot = insufflate
 
The fact that you might take something for motivation is just all wrong...no wonder you've got no motivation...like looking to catch a train down at the beach...lol
Motivation doesn't come from taking shit...duh...slow learner or what? If there is a lion in the street, he comes at you, I just know you'll have so much motivation, just like I know drug-abusers have shit for brains mostly by choice...you have no less motivation than the rest of us...lazy people use every excuse under the sun...if you want to admit you're a lazy bum, or that you need some real excitement in your life...or whatever, good for you...only when you come looking to see what you can "take", that might what...magically give you a free ticket out of life's hardships...surely you must know how pathetic that looks...
remind's me of my lame-ass excuses...

Best wishes...really :)

Ridiculous assumptions. There are a multitude of things that could be contributing to OP's excessive tiredness and lack of motivation. Assuming laziness without even considering other options is quite silly and rude. You seem incredibly ignorant - I strongly suggest that you work on this.

OP - see your doctor. Start regular exercise if you have not already done so, and keep your diet in check.
 
Michael- when did u first start using methamp? Todays meth prduction is mostly made up crystal methamphetamine form or ice. The main reason for this is ice's popularity during thelast Half of the 2000s. I would think a fair proportion of prduced 'base' these days would be due to some pronlem in its ptoduction rather than on purpose. Buy if you look from the early 2000s and earlier ' base'. Type was the majority type of metg produced again because it was alot more popular, and i remember back in 98 or 99 and comming across shabu as it was called then, and it was viewed as something compketly different to speed/goey/base ar tge time. I think a big part of its separation was the fact back then it was solely a drug that was imported from asia.

My DOC for years has been crystal methamphetamine but if i had a choice i think i would choose base over ice. These days though ice's popularity has dimished the need for base form so a fraction of base is now made making it rare and/or more likely to be less pure. smoking even snorting ice but i still today think it diesbt compare to snorting base back in the early 2000s, the base would have a more intense onset and more rushy whereas ice snorted seens more snorting both base and ice, it ferls like its a titalky different almost lol, it has an invisible like onset its so smooth and it gives me a titally differnt eurphoric feeling.
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an you see how different users of the same drug, cos basically at different times there has been completly different ideas, popularity etc etc

LoL i just read this post and i must apologise on the spelling mistakes etc throughout it, my stupid phone sometimes starts playing up and posts different letters than i press :X

Anyways i have edited it abit and fixed most mistakes and this is what it was supposed to say...

Michael- when did u first start using methamphetamine?
Todays meth production is mostly made up of the crystal methamphetamine form or 'ice', but this wasn't always the case. Today production trend is due to the drugs massive increase in popularity during the last half of the 2000s. I would think a fair proportion of 'base' on the streets these days is due to some problem in its synth (ie shortcuts made, inexperienced cook, issue with precursors etc) rather than on purpose.

If you look back at the trends in the 90s and upto the early 2000s 'base' ('gas', 'pure' or whatever its local slang is)form of methamphetamine was the main type produced, This is again because at that time it was alot more popular.

I remember back in 1998 or 1999 and coming across shabu, which was what crystal methamphetamine/'ice' was called back then, but it was viewed as a completely different drug to the methamphetamine (speed/goey/base) around at the time. I think a big part of its separation was the fact back then it was solely a drug that was imported from asia, and i think thats what may have started the 'average joe' having a negative opion on ice but would think that taking speed or base is ok because their different drugs.

My DOC for years has been crystal methamphetamine but if i had a choice i think i would go the 'base' i used to get afew years back. These days though ice's popularity has diminished the need for base form to be produced so a fraction of base is now made making it rare and/or more likely to be less pure than what 'base' used to be like.

smoking and/or snorting ice for me doesn't compare to snorting base bought back in the early 2000s. The old school Base had a more intense onset and a more rush like feel than ice and would make me want to chase pussy alot more than ice too. Whereas smoking ice for me doesn't feel anywhere near as intense, cos its so smooth it has an almost invisible like onset. Smoking ice does give a totally different euphoric high and feels more euphoric than base. Snorting ice for me feels alot closer to snorting old school base out of the two methods, but still does not feel as intense to me, its effects are very much in the middle of the two.

My experience is totally different to the next ice user and different users of the same drug can have totally different opinions due to many reasons, they can be location(environment), age, exposure to different purities and types etc etc.

This is my 2 cents.... :!





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I know an ice addict who looks down on me because I'm a "junkie" on methadone. He steals off people, doesn't answer his phone, gets kicked out of clubs, strip-clubs, bash.. basically he's one of the scummiest people that I know, and yet he looks down on me because I prefer a different drug. A drug that I think is a lot less harmful than ice if used "not in moderation".
 
Say, does anyone know if storing meth in a hot place has any effect on the potency? I'm guessing it does, it seems to...I had a bag in the car for a coupla days and it seems to have deteriorated quite noticeably.
 
Can anyone explain how hot rails (snorting meth through a glass tube heating the end, vapourizing the meth so you inhale the smoke through your nose and blow out smoke through your mouth) are much more intense and make me more wired than simply smoking it through a pipe. It is essentially the same with the inhaling of vapourized meth, yet it seems stronger inhaling the smoke through my nose. I could only really put this down to it reaching the brain quicker, but it's pretty much the same method slightly different ROA but gets me way more wired. I find smoking meth to an extent relaxing, but hot rails get me juiced, chatty and more fucked up. Is it the blood vessels in the nostrils, I don't know I just feel it hit harder. Any insight would be appreciated.
 
Can anyone explain how hot rails (snorting meth through a glass tube heating the end, vapourizing the meth so you inhale the smoke through your nose and blow out smoke through your mouth) are much more intense and make me more wired than simply smoking it through a pipe. It is essentially the same with the inhaling of vapourized meth, yet it seems stronger inhaling the smoke through my nose. I could only really put this down to it reaching the brain quicker, but it's pretty much the same method slightly different ROA but gets me way more wired. I find smoking meth to an extent relaxing, but hot rails get me juiced, chatty and more fucked up. Is it the blood vessels in the nostrils, I don't know I just feel it hit harder. Any insight would be appreciated.

I think it's because hot rails tend to be more of a flood all at once so it's like BAM! With smoking you inhale it over a longer period so it's like BAAAAmmmmmmmm
 
Finally got onto some real good shardy in Adelaide! Nice sized, almost clear rocks, Hard to break. Sets perfect in the pipe, smoked up real good, Kept you going for ages and barely left residue in the pipe. When I took the pic the pipe had been through 4 points and that's how clean it still was!

Sourced off someone i'd never got stuff off before, bit more expensive but was well worth it. If only you were always guaranteed decent product!

Also just a heads up, there's a lot of shardy around Adelaide that is cut big time with iso, Got stung last week so just be careful.

Happy piping :)

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Yo! I stumbled upon this forum when I was tweaked this morning and searching the net for any discussion about the shitty new crackpipes that seem to be in sex shops recently - it appears they aren't your usual sort of glass and I was wondering if anybody had any insight into the material used? Is it some sort of acrylic glass?

Also, I plan on going on a major meth hiatus after this weekend. I'm a 27 year old female with a white collar job and post-grad education. I have been smoking gear on and off since I was 17, depending on whether it was going around at the time. Previous user of speed, coke, pills etc during periods where I couldn't get meth - my drug of choice.

I don't actually feel as if ice has fucked with my head too much, i have my shit together so to speak, but I have certainly grown accustomed to the hyper-concentration and mental acuity/conversational prowess it can give me. I've been smashing it recently due to the start of a new relationship - intense chats and sex all weekend, every weekend. We have both agreed that we don't want this to set the tone for the whole relationship though. Have found over the past couple of weeks that we are not getting as high, just awake and a bit frazzled, fiddling on the computer etc.

We have tried to have a weekend off but one of us caves, then the other gets FOMO and we end up getting on it. Smoking an average of 7 points between us on a weekend. Next weekend we have booked a trip interstate to kick start the hiatus. Does anybody have any other tips? Neither of us want this to be a drug-riddled relationship as we have both been down that path before. Some advice would be dope!
 
This is an image of half a gram a friend of a friends cousin bought yesterday here in western Sydney allegedly LoL,
Rumor has it that when bought it was just a single rock, this person has not been sold a half grammie rock in awhile, and although appearances do not indicate quality, this person was quite excited at its potential. and it didn't let him/her down.
very strong, still only had 100mg max from last night and still going. The rock was broken up to put some contents into a pipe, this is the rocky remains...

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PS i wonder how Heddah is going, havent seen him in here in awhile now...
 
*appears* quality imo
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*appears* sketchy imo. looks wet or fluffy or something not quiet right.
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can never ever judge a book by its cover!
PS i wonder how Heddah is going, havent seen him in here in awhile now...
he posted he quit and was getting his shit together or there a bouts. i miss his cheeky posts too. i think all us aussies are missing his and jakepersons valuable contributions! look after yourselves brothers and sisters <3

pretty sure sweetpuff and the rest are pyrex? not really sure about the new ones or whatever you are talking bout though.

aint no short-cuts that im aware of. plain and simple - dont call your connect. ime if you are beginning to have second thoughts it time to back up some and try to give it a miss for a while. you dont want the hooks in too deep. good luck.
 
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Stuff in the pipe looks way too tasty, please refrain from posting meth porn guys.. jks i ant no party pooper, at least people are more knowledgeable in seeing what killa should look like. Been a couple of months since the last taste, can safely say im on the road to recovery. Like laugh said look after yourselves. Blighters unite.
 
*appears* quality imo
dbjjn9.jpg

*appears* sketchy imo. looks wet or fluffy or something not quiet right.
eyecce.png

can never ever judge a book by its cover!

he posted he quit and was getting his shit together or there a bouts. i miss his cheeky posts too. i think all us aussies are missing his and jakepersons valuable contributions! look after yourselves brothers and sisters <3

pretty sure sweetpuff and the rest are pyrex? not really sure about the new ones or whatever you are talking bout though.

aint no short-cuts that im aware of. plain and simple - dont call your connect. ime if you are beginning to have second thoughts it time to back up some and try to give it a miss for a while. you dont want the hooks in too deep. good luck.

nar mate the stuff wasnt wet or fluffy. the image was atken from a scanner and is not the best pic :)
 
Yo! I stumbled upon this forum when I was tweaked this morning and searching the net for any discussion about the shitty new crackpipes that seem to be in sex shops recently - it appears they aren't your usual sort of glass and I was wondering if anybody had any insight into the material used? Is it some sort of acrylic glass?

Also, I plan on going on a major meth hiatus after this weekend. I'm a 27 year old female with a white collar job and post-grad education. I have been smoking gear on and off since I was 17, depending on whether it was going around at the time. Previous user of speed, coke, pills etc during periods where I couldn't get meth - my drug of choice.

I don't actually feel as if ice has fucked with my head too much, i have my shit together so to speak, but I have certainly grown accustomed to the hyper-concentration and mental acuity/conversational prowess it can give me. I've been smashing it recently due to the start of a new relationship - intense chats and sex all weekend, every weekend. We have both agreed that we don't want this to set the tone for the whole relationship though. Have found over the past couple of weeks that we are not getting as high, just awake and a bit frazzled, fiddling on the computer etc.

We have tried to have a weekend off but one of us caves, then the other gets FOMO and we end up getting on it. Smoking an average of 7 points between us on a weekend. Next weekend we have booked a trip interstate to kick start the hiatus. Does anybody have any other tips? Neither of us want this to be a drug-riddled relationship as we have both been down that path before. Some advice would be dope!

The fact that you guys have both acknowledged early that you don't want your relationship to be drug-riddled is definitely a good sign.
Just try breaking up your use a fair bit, going on a trip is a good idea, but when you guys are back it can be easy to fall in to the same cycles. Try to reduce how you guys smoke, cutting down to fortnightly use shouldn't be all that difficult. Do you drink much? Alot of people say cutting back meth use is considerably harder if you are drinking. I'm not saying you should quit drinking also, but perhaps until you get into a better routine try to drink and smoke fortnightly because if you start drinking on nights that you weren't going to smoke, you are more likely to get sucked back in.

If you are currently smoking during the week try to cut that down to just weekends before going straight to fortnightly. My DOC is MDMA so I can't really give much more advice as I don't take meth that often, but I have had a few friends and know multiple bluelighters who have had addictions to the drug. I still encourage recreational use, just be careful not to let it bite you in the arse and starting a relationship around a drug is unlikely to be a good idea.
 
Those pictures are amazing! Things must be hard in sydney right now . . I haven't seen gear anywhere here for 6 months until those photos
 
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