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Television Breaking Bad

I haven't actually done meth either but some of the party scenes do make me want to go out and rave! Love the show though <3

Carl Landrover said:
I have this problem with certain shows/movies, but fortunately I haven't with Breaking Bad. I think that might be different if I were into meth, but I've actually never even seen meth much less used it. With the exception of adderall, concerta, and vyvanse haven't done any amphetamines either, so I've been fortunate to not get cravings while watching. The only exception was maybe Jesse's first time doing H with Jane. However, they show them shooting up with a stabbing motion instead of being slanted/on an angle, and it turns me off seeing it done incorrectly. I think of missed shots, weird bumps, and how Jared Leto's arm looked at the end of Requiem.


I can't wait for them to come back. I hope these last episodes are worth the wait.
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I still watch that Ecstasy of Gold Breaking Bad tribute video if I ever want to feel pumped up. The version with seasons 1-4 is better than the 1-5A one, but they're both edited and put together in a really fantastic way.


It's going to be awesome when we finally get to see how this story ends.
 
I know everybody goes on about how good this show is, but there's a reason for it. I loved the Wire, and Dexter is one of my all time favourites, but Breaking Bad is better than both. Nothing about it I didn't like, just marathon'd through the lot. I NEED THE HALF SERIES TO COME NOW.
 
A knock against The Wire vs. Breaking Bad is that BB has not had any bad seasons, whereas The Wire season 5 is clearly inferior to the other four.

I will always choose BB over The Wire because BB does not engage in cop glorification. That's just me though: I do not like cops, and I think mass media has the obligation to deconstruct the police = heroes cliche. The Wire is significantly better than most other series in this regard, but its protagonists are still mostly cops. The premise is that it's possible to be a good narcotics police, and I don't think that's a sound premise. Officers are as complicit in the War on Drugs as Adolf Eichmann was in the Holocaust. "Just following orders" and "Just doing my job" is not, by itself, a valid moral defense. To a certain extent, they all abdicate self-criticism at some point in their careers. The Barney Rubble, lunkhead quality of Dean Norris's character on BB is how, at best, I view cops. Their moral sense is atrophied and they are mechanistic bureaucrats, like background characters in a Kafka story.
 
pteque said:
you have no idea how many arguments i have gotten in with people regarding the wire v. breaking bad. the wire was stunning, but breaking bad for the win!
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The Wire drops off at the end. I still loved it but it's not as good as the first 3 or so seasons. I think it got the same criticism the walking dead gets in that not enough happens quick enough, but that's the point. It's real life, it isn't all action slugfest like Breaking Bad, so it's good in it's own way.

23536 said:
A knock against The Wire vs. Breaking Bad is that BB has not had any bad seasons, whereas The Wire season 5 is clearly inferior to the other four.

I will always choose BB over The Wire because BB does not engage in cop glorification. That's just me though: I do not like cops, and I think mass media has the obligation to deconstruct the police = heroes cliche. The Wire is significantly better than most other series in this regard, but its protagonists are still mostly cops. The premise is that it's possible to be a good narcotics police, and I don't think that's a sound premise. Officers are as complicit in the War on Drugs as Adolf Eichmann was in the Holocaust. "Just following orders" and "Just doing my job" is not, by itself, a valid moral defense. To a certain extent, they all abdicate self-criticism at some point in their careers. The Barney Rubble, lunkhead quality of Dean Norris's character on BB is how, at best, I view cops. Their moral sense is atrophied and they are mechanistic bureaucrats, like background characters in a Kafka story.
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I have the opposite view, it painted most of the characters in a bad light showing how imperfect they were, and how corruption runs to the core. I still thought BB was better though, Bryan Cranston and Aaron Paul have an amazing chemistry. Some of the best acting performances I've seen in a long time.
 
Flynn's sexy and he knows it.

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23536 said:
A knock against The Wire vs. Breaking Bad is that BB has not had any bad seasons, whereas The Wire season 5 is clearly inferior to the other four.
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What didn't you like about Season 5? I'd have preferred it if it was 12-13 episodes instead of 10 because there were so many characters at that point that it seemed like some of them should have gotten more screen time, but the way they ended the show was probably the best possible way to end that series. It just wrapped everything up in a way that really highlighted the premise of the show; bureaucracies are inhibitory and things never get changed. One generation turns into the next despite their efforts to make a difference.

I also don't think it's entirely fair to compare the two just yet since Breaking Bad could end up being really crappy in it's last few episodes. I don't think it will be, but it still has to wrap everything up. The Wire was more about society in general and took on a much wider scope than Breaking Bad does. I don't think they're really all that comparable, except for the drug aspect and the fact that they both fucking rock.
 
I prefer the wire, amongst other things I love the street level dealing, the violence, the many strong characters and probably loads more. I also like BB, but probably not quite as much.

It's interesting to note that both shows (bb and the wire) currently rate 9.4 out of 10 on imdb.
 
Carl Landrover said:
What didn't you like about Season 5?
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I saw it so long ago I don't think I can give this question a fair answer. I remember hating what they were doing with McNulty, how his descent was either not credible or exaggerated. I also remember not liking the ragged character of the criminal syndicate, how Cheese was shot in front of everyone with no real plan or resistance, how Chris Partlow silently accepted his fate while Marlo kept on reigning. I also couldn't stand half the newspaper guys and didn't really care about the rest. I did feel really happy for Bubbles though. These are just isolated memories; I'd have to rewatch it to figure out why I decided not to rewatch it.

Ranking BB vs. The Wire is like ranking Lebron vs. Jordan. They're both among the best ever, but they're both completely different types of creature.
 
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Not in baseball.....


23536 said:
I saw it so long ago I don't think I can give this question a fair answer. I remember hating what they were doing with McNulty, how his descent was either not credible or exaggerated. I also remember not liking the ragged character of the criminal syndicate, how Cheese was shot in front of everyone with no real plan or resistance, how Chris Partlow silently accepted his fate while Marlo kept on reigning. I also couldn't stand half the newspaper guys and didn't really care about the rest. I did feel really happy for Bubbles though. These are just isolated memories; I'd have to rewatch it to figure out why I decided not to rewatch it.

Ranking BB vs. The Wire is like ranking Lebron vs. Jordan. They're both among the best ever, but they're both completely different types of creature.
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That was a good enough explanation and it picked up on the things I didn't really care for either. The McNulty storyline was a little disappointing the first time around, but on the rewatch it didn't bother me as much. It seemed sort of Bunny Colvin-esque. He wanted to make a change and he made a desperate act to try and do that. Even did it in true McNulty fashion; alcohol inspired and completely self-destructive.

Never fully understood the Chris Partlow part. Moreso I just don't understand how someone could give their life for someone else in that manner. What made Marlo so special that people would just do what he wanted? I didn't understand that with him or when it was going on with Avon Barksdale. I don't understand it with other characters on TV shows or with real life people either.
 
Carl Landrover said:
Never fully understood the Chris Partlow part. Moreso I just don't understand how someone could give their life for someone else in that manner. What made Marlo so special that people would just do what he wanted? I didn't understand that with him or when it was going on with Avon Barksdale. I don't understand it with other characters on TV shows or with real life people either.
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Money, homie. When you're born into a social system where drugs, crime, and violence are the only things you know, you align yourself with the smartest, most ruthless and resourceful mofo you can find because they will make you some decent money while you're waiting to get shot by rival bangers - Marlo and Avon were those people, essentially. It may not be the most forward-thinking position to take, but it's what they know.
 
^ Again, it goes back to the attitude of the society they grew up in. When you and everyone you know grew up in poverty and turned to drugs and crime to make a living, there's sort of an inherent sense of inevitability that you'll either be killed or sent to prison, so they decide to "make hay while the sun is shining". They talk about it in pretty great detail in the show. Their nihilism is simply a result of having nothing to hope for, which is what makes Dukie such an interesting and tragic character [spoil]because he had the smarts and ambition to succeed but ultimately was unable to escape the streets[/spoil]. Marlo and Avon at least gave them jobs and a sense of brotherhood and purpose even if they were being exploited.

Everything that happened to the dealers and bangers in The Wire was simply a result of "being born into the Game".
 
hate to interrupt this little circle jerk, but i hear tell of there being a possibility of a saul goodman spinoff series.

although he was the only good thing about bb to me, his show would have to be drastically different for me to watch it.
 
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