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LSD - Recurring bad trip of uncontrollable manic laughter

malakaix said:
The single most important factor i've come to understand with psychedelics in a group environment is usually what you think is happening with someone else, is really whats happening with you; they act as a mirror to your insecurities.
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Absolutely! One thing I get strangely often is the impression that a friend is about to break down crying or have an emotional episode. I often mistake people for being in this state (quite often while they're laughing hysterically) and ask them "What's the matter?!" only to discover that they're fine and it was all my head.

It took me a while to realise, but this is just a reflection of my own feelings. I've always been highly emotional person, and a good amount of LSD can really bring it out of me.

QFT, indeed.
 
malakaix said:
The single most important factor i've come to understand with psychedelics in a group environment is usually what you think is happening with someone else, is really whats happening with you; they act as a mirror to your insecurities.

From my perspective it sounds like your were grappling with the fear of losing control, your friend laughing was the 'elephant in the room', and as much as you wanted to ignore the possibility of being insane it was right in your face with him laughing uncontrollably.

I've been in that situation dozens of times, that when you really break it down.. its all you, in one way or another. And he's likely going through his own process..
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I couldn't agree more, however, without sounding like the opposititional 12 year old. I dont think that this is the case here. For some reason the laughter was uncomfortable... for both of us... and you need to remember that this spanned over 2 trips, so we spoke about it inbetween. I didn't just "medicate" him. I could see he was really struggling with it, and it was bugging him, so I offered them to him. You're right, I did feel uncomfortable with the laughter, but we both did. Only thing is I stopped laughing and was fine to move on, and at the risk of repeating myself, we spoke about this after, so I know this to be the case.

Also, these 2 trips were his second and third respectively so he was still fairly uncomfortable anyways.

Thanks for all the advice guys, interesting to see different peoples POVs
 
Someone deleted my post saying 'raise the dose'. I was serious about this, a higher dose would lead to a more serious experiance. I find i get the mos giggles on low doses.

your friend needs to trip with someone who will let him be insane and laugh.


Transfromedit: That was me who removed the post, I do apologise but with no explanation it looked like you were making a silly joke. Please make sure you explain unconventional suggestions a bit in the future as even if they are valid they are not much use to the OP if it looks like a joke.
 
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Magickduck said:
your friend needs to trip with someone who will let him be insane and laugh.
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"let him be insane"? - I can sit there but when a good friend of mine is clearly uncomfortable I'm gonna offer a way to help him out. A lot of you are too quick to criticise rather than offering helpful advice.
 
Yeah he just needs to learn to love it.. It's only because he thought it was strange and not good that it became strange and not good (obvious, i know) but just give in and enjoy it ;)

It's a normal part of a lot of peoples trips.. I've had it before though.. I'd start laughing then the laugh would feel really un-natural and odd.. It's all good though.
 
rickolasnice said:
Yeah he just needs to learn to love it.. It's only because he thought it was strange and not good that it became strange and not good (obvious, i know) but just give in and enjoy it ;)

It's a normal part of a lot of peoples trips.. I've had it before though.. I'd start laughing then the laugh would feel really un-natural and odd.. It's all good though.
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Thanks, this seems like the most constructive bit of help posted. It's a pretty strange thing to experience if someone hasn't before. When it becomes strange and odd it feels like the joyfulness has been sucked out the laughter and it just becomes rib crippling noise :)
 
it's still good for you, its all the laughter he'd suppressed throughout a lifetime.

Or its just a good ol' chemical reaction that is hilarious. Next time, taking a walk, or going for a swim, or putting on some different music, or starting a serious conversation after the laugh has passed works better than a benzo.
 
daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
and whay the fuck to stop that dude ?!
thats the best part..
the end of a propher trip is so fucking funnnnnnnnnnnnny

you are a buzzz breaker !!!
never ever gonna get trippy with you..
 
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what does your friend think about it? is he uncomfortable about how much he is laughing? if he doesnt have a problem with it just let him be
 
He does have a problem with it, that's what some people are failing to realise.

I have no issue with it <b>Whatsoever</b> I suggested that just go with it, it's fine, just let it take it's course etc. I've explained fairly well that I'm not suppressing him, he is uncomfortable about it, and no, I wasn't tripping out, he told me while he was sober.

Thanks to all who are providing constructive help.
 
No what we, the ones who are not getting you (except for those that are blaming you on everything, that's just too easy), are trying to say is that it's the thinking about the manic laughter is what's making it uncomfortable. If I do something weird during a trip I often end up thinking I'm going insane, and that's why it is uncomfortable. There are a few things you can do to make your mind go elsewhere.

We're just trying to comfort you and your friend in to tripping with each other again. It might seem hopeless, but the psychedelic mind doesn't always have a perfect judgement of things. Don't try to evade laughing either, because that will take him back to that place. You guys just need to learn how to be comfortable while tripping with each other.
 
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