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Has MDMA ever caused you to have gay feelings or thoughts?

DrunkardsDream said:
It would not make you gay to want to have sex with the same gender while on drugs or while sober but it would make you bisexual.

I disagree that most people are somehow inbetween gay and heterosexual or are bisexual. If this were true there would be no point at all in LGBT (lesbians, gays, bisexuals, and trans people) coming out, no fight at all for same gender marriage or rights that heterosexuals have that they take for granted, hate crimes and genocide against bisexual and gay men would not exist, and there would be no stigma associated with being bisexual or gay and a man like you see in various societies and cultures and religions/spiritualities. This is not to say that people can't be bisexual since they can, and bisexuals do make up a sizable percentage of the human population or for LGBT people bisexuals both men, women, and trans people outnumber gay/lesbian men, women, and trans people.

I'm gay and I have been on various drugs and I have never wanted to have sex with the opposite gender while on them. I have never had any desire to have sex with a woman or any women at all even while sober. If you fantasize about having sex with the same gender while you're on drugs or sober then you're not heterosexual. If you were actually heterosexual you wouldn't fantasize or think about having sex with the same gender at all while sober or on drugs.
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Not that it's really that important to the OP, but I disagree and most experts on human sexuality disagree. Having sexual thoughts, feelings, attraction or physical arousal to do with members of the same sex doesn't necessarily make you bisexual or gay. Is a guy who gets a blowjob from another guy while in prison automatically bisexual? Is a woman who got a little turned on once by seeing a naked photo of an attractive woman automatically bisexual? "Heterosexual" "bisexual" and "homosexual" are labels invented in the late 1800s to more easily define/communicate sexual behaviours outside of and within the social norm. They now generally define a sexual identity, especially used in the context of "I am bisexual", "he is gay", etc, although they are sometimes used to describe an activity as in "ducks engage in bisexual behaviours" or "homosexual sex". Environment, culture, religion, and social setting play huge roles in the perception, attitudes, and behaviors of sexuality and whether or not a person expresses desires, thoughts or feelings regarding attraction to the same sex, let alone actually engages in any sexual activity with a person of the same sex. It's completely a fallacy of logic to say that if most people were neither 100% heterosexual nor 100% homosexual that there would be no social/cultural/religious stigma attached to any sexual orientation, that makes no sense at all.
 
Swimmingdancer said:
Not that it's really that important to the OP, but I disagree and most experts on human sexuality disagree. Having sexual thoughts, feelings, attraction or physical arousal to do with members of the same sex doesn't necessarily make you bisexual or gay. Is a guy who gets a blowjob from another guy while in prison automatically bisexual? Is a woman who got a little turned on once by seeing a naked photo of an attractive woman automatically bisexual? "Heterosexual" "bisexual" and "homosexual" are labels invented in the late 1800s to more easily define/communicate sexual behaviours outside of and within the social norm. They now generally define a sexual identity, especially used in the context of "I am bisexual", "he is gay", etc, although they are sometimes used to describe an activity as in "ducks engage in bisexual behaviours" or "homosexual sex". Environment, culture, religion, and social setting play huge roles in the perception, attitudes, and behaviors of sexuality and whether or not a person expresses desires, thoughts or feelings regarding attraction to the same sex, let alone actually engages in any sexual activity with a person of the same sex. It's completely a fallacy of logic to say that if most people were neither 100% heterosexual nor 100% homosexual that there would be no social/cultural/religious stigma attached to any sexual orientation, that makes no sense at all.
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Which experts on human sexuality have claimed this? I have never read this and I have read quite a few studies like the Janus report and even the studies Kinsey did. BTW Kinsey never claimed that people who are gay/lesbian or heterosexual are rare, he was describing bisexuality with his Kinsey scale and in his studies he mainly interviewed bisexual and gay men and bisexual and lesbian women so of course you are going to get results that say that most of these people sexually fantasize about the same gender or they have had sex with the same gender. On the Kinsey scale there are one spot for heterosexuals at zero, five spots for bisexuals or numbers 1 through 5, and one spot for us gays/lesbians at 6. Yes society would be different if most people were bisexual or had sexual and/or romantic attractions to the same gender. You would not have seen a huge genocide of bisexual and gay men in Iran and other Middle Eastern Fundamentalist Islamic countries. It is pretty much only until recently in the later half of the 20th Century and the start of the 21st Century in some countries that LGBT people have been getting the same rights as heterosexuals have had for hundreds of years.
 
i think all or most people have a capacity for bisexuality, whether they choose to admit or realize is irrelevant

if they didn't have this capacity, i don't understand how lots of women experiment (and our society considers this fine) in college with women or how "straight" men have sex with each other in jail
i'm sure plenty of women have kissed/messed around with other girls but settled with men, as well as men returning from prison to their wives and resuming their regular lives

if sexuality wasn't fluid and mostly somewhere in the middle of the extremes then i don't think these phenomenons would exist

just look at some of the gay threads in SLR, gay guys talk about messing around with bi men who end up married with kids
 
DrunkardsDream said:
Yes society would be different if most people were bisexual or had sexual and/or romantic attractions to the same gender.
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Not to get this thread off topic too much but I don't think that's necessarily true. I'm sure a ton of people repress their homosexual urges, no matter how big or small, because they think it's 'wrong' since that's what society dictates. Doesn't mean they don't feel them, whether they're consciously aware of it or not.
 
sounds like you wanted to experiment as you were off your face and now he's distancing himself from you.

lets be honest asking for a 69 is jumping the gun a bit, i would have at least tried with some sort of hug kissing blendage first.

basically what can you do? try to keep in contact with him but if he avoids you all you can do is hang out with other people until he learns to chill out and forget this one off situation
 
Oh I have an old mate like that, he is not gay though always in a relationship with a woman and shows no sign of being a homo when he is sober but if he gets mdma inside him you better not pass out in the same room as him or you would wake up fully molested. He gets stupid horny off it, just say it was the drugs, that you are sorry and tell him you meant no offense. A real friend would forgive you in an instant.
 
I have never had the urge to suck a dick on MDMA, ever. I can understand why your mate is wierded out by it, but you should just explain to him you were off your nut. If he continues to make a big deal about it, it's better to let him chill for a while.
 
I called my cuz babe during conversation recently, I meant to say dude but it came out babe. There was a brief puzzled pause and then we carried on talking like it never happened.
 
fleea said:
Oh I have an old mate like that, he is not gay though always in a relationship with a woman and shows no sign of being a homo when he is sober but if he gets mdma inside him you better not pass out in the same room as him or you would wake up fully molested. He gets stupid horny off it, just say it was the drugs, that you are sorry and tell him you meant no offense. A real friend would forgive you in an instant.
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i know what you mean about the whole insanely horny. it makes me sex mad!
 
pofacedhoe said:
i know what you mean about the whole insanely horny. it makes me sex mad!
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lol, honestly my buddy is like a big horny slobbery dog on it, funny really as long as you are good at swerving his attacks of overwhelming love.Not just blokes he goes for, he chased the wife round and round one floor of the tower hotel in london nekkid, she kept trying to work the card key and get in our room in a panic but having to run again when he caught her up.
 
^^^^that shit was funny! Chasing your wife around and she had to keep running off.
 
a big slobbery dog makes it seem like the problem is that he's not all that hot. if its a fitty its more tolerable when they try it on lol
 
That sounds like a regular night for me. But I'm gay.

Never have I declared my love for vagina on E, although I will and do make out with chicks..sober too lol.
 
I've made out with females on mdma but I've made out with females sober too... lol.
Making out with anyone while rolling balls is fun though.
I never wanted to eat out a chick or anything though.
I did however let the girl I made out with grope me after it was funny.
She later whispered in my ear that she wanted to do me....
I just laughed in my head and let her say whatever because I was really happy and just let it slide.
 
not CAUSED, but opened me up to a side I'd never seen more than a joking curiosity. It was actually Hawaiian Baby Woodrose that showed me my homo side, although I had been interested in hermaphrodites/shemales for a few years previously.

It's been our culture for so long to see homosexuality as abhorrent, unnatural (yeah HOW?!) behaviour, so if you look at the kinsey scale, or stop talking for a second and just observe you will see actually most of us have a bi-leaning, and true straight people or 100% homo people are actually a lot rarer than you'd think. A lot of people just don't realize, or act, or do more than fantasize.
 
Pagey said:
Not to get this thread off topic too much but I don't think that's necessarily true. I'm sure a ton of people repress their homosexual urges, no matter how big or small, because they think it's 'wrong' since that's what society dictates. Doesn't mean they don't feel them, whether they're consciously aware of it or not.
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I think I agree with you Pagey.
I had same-experiences at a young age, which continued intermittently until I was in my twenties. But then I fell under the influence of homophobes. I long repressed my feelings but occasionally had furtive encounters while expressing anti-gay attitudes.
At the age of 57 I tried mdma with a gay friend and came to accept my bisexuality (with a large same sex component) and have felt much better since.
 
^Yeah. I've just become quite skeptical at the idea of people being 100% straight or gay (not saying there aren't people who are because I'm sure that would be wrong as well) because the more mature people I know have almost all 'admitted' to being attracted to at least one person of their sex (or of the opposite if they're gay). As in, being 19 I mostly hang out with people in their late teens/very early 20s and guys especially will immediately become super defensive and act almost offended if you ask them if they've ever been attracted to another guy. But when I ask the same question to someone in their mid to late 20s (or older) the answer is usually affirmative...so it seems to be a realisation/acceptance that has a lot to do with maturity and growing out of society's stronghold.
 
my gay ex had sex with a lot of females on mdma etc.

...just sayin.... that things go both ways. Live a little. Sex is sex. criticism and judgement are about control.

:)
 
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