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The Drug's in the Mail - The Silk Road and our very own Tronica!

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i haven't read every post on this thread but fwiw it appears most of the aus busts involve large and imported packages. i would think the average user on the road would be looking for personal amounts. and what someone posted about the average user on the road being middle age women who don't like people, you may be very much on target. i would think many customers are folks who are doing the family and career thing and have either lost touch with old "friends" or just want to keep their extracurricular fun very, very private.
i have no personal knowledge using the road but i wouldn't have a second thought about ordering a small personal amount from someone w/in the same country, us to us, aus to aus, w/e. i would have more concern about being sent nothing at all or a bag of soap or oregano or baking soda. i've had p.o.boxes for decades, am always getting some kind of doodad from ebay or amazon, like earrings or a bracelet, i.e. small packages, and if i ordered from some one in the u.s. i wouldn't think twice about mr. post office man thinking anything was out of the ordinary. i'm sure sellers use stealthy methods to keep things less than immediately obvious esp since usps is always crunching the corners of boxes. and the sellers are probably way more interesting to leo than someone getting a gm for the weekend.
lovely things have been going through the mail for years. one xmas eve over 30 years, after getting talked out of most of my paycheck about ten days earlier, a knock came at the door. and there was mr. postman w/ a special delivery xmas card. inside were two sheets of little dragons for fun and enlightenment.
the whole idea behind sr isn't novel or new and i seriously doubt, even if the sr site disappears, that obtaining various interesting items via the internet is going to ever stop. the biggest problem i suspect could be happening now is that media attention has attracted significant numbers of 15 year olds who lack common sense and discretion. but those dummies won't cause sr or sites like it to shut down on any long term basis.
once out of the bottle, it's awfully hard to stuff the genie back in.
-izzy
 
Teens flock to hidden website for drugs

Teenagers as young as 16 are using the underground drug sales website Silk Road, the Fairfax Media Global Drug Survey reveals.

The survey, which was the first to interview Australian users of Silk Road, found their ages varied from 16 to 89 and most were using it to buy more ''traditional'' drugs such as ecstasy and cannabis.

About 6.5 per cent of users were age 16 and 17, which was the youngest age allowed to participate in the survey, said Monica Barratt, a research fellow at the National Drug Research Institute who analysed the results.

Dr Barratt said she was surprised that the majority of people were avoiding the proliferation of new and untested drugs available.

The most common drug people said they had bought was MDMA (ecstasy), followed by cannabis (pictured), LSD and cocaine.

''We are not seeing a lot of people who are choosing really weird drugs,'' Dr Barratt said.

''They are choosing the drugs they know.''

Dr Barratt will present the findings at the Australasian Drug and Alcohol Strategy Conference in Sydney on Wednesday.

She said the survey raised the question of whether people were choosing to buy so-called ''legal highs'' - newly invented drug compounds that are often sold in adult stores and tobacconists - because other drugs were illegal.

''Maybe we can see the Silk Road as a kind of microcosm of what might happen if we lived in a world where all drugs were regulated,'' she said.

Of the more than 2500 people who said they usually bought their own drugs, more than half had heard of Silk Road, the majority learning about it from media reports. However, even though many had looked at the site, only 184 had bought drugs.

Dr Barratt said Silk Road, which operates through the so-called ''dark internet'' and uses an alternative currency, may not be that easy for people to use.

More than 6600 Australians responded to the Global Drug Survey, making it the largest, most up-to-date survey of current drug users conducted in Australia. Its results are not representative of the broader population, as participants were more likely to be male, older and well off.


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Nearly two-thirds of people who had heard of Silk Road but chose not to buy drugs there said they already had adequate access to illicit drugs and about half said that they were worried about police or customs.

Dr Barratt said dealers tended to promise the drugs would not be detectable because they are vacuum packed and sealed in ''stealth packaging'' but, anecdotally, it appears Australians have more trouble importing drugs than people in Britain and Europe, where boarders are more porous.

About a quarter said they were concerned about being ripped off.

The Australasian Drug and Alcohol Strategy conference at Luna Park begins on Wednesday and will be attended by police commissioners from every state and territory and New Zealand.

links on the article -

http://www.portnews.com.au/story/1375568/teens-flock-to-hidden-website-for-drugs/?cs=27
 
Regarding the article above, I was happy with it if you disregard the title and the first three lines. Of course, that is often the only part anyone reads... sigh!

the data actually indicates that teens are the least likely age group to use Silk Road in Australia - only representing under 10% of the folks who bought from SR and completed our survey. In fact a quarter of SR buyers in Australia stated they were 35 years or older. Almost all of them were male. MDMA powder, cocaine and cannabis were the most popular drugs bought.
 
What sample size did you need to have in order for it to equal a "flock" of teens?
Good point about the RC's though. A lot of people wouldn't touch them if the real thing was readily available.
 
Just posting this here so I can look back a year from now and lmao but SR will decline in popularity as other onion websites start forming and alternate cryptocurrencies start becoming more commonplace. Id bet money bitcoin is gonna burst the minute a couple key players decide to cash out and anyone whos on that gravy train is fucked.

Tread lightly

and take that hint
 
^ That has happened with bitcoins before. I've heard from programmer and heavy IT friends of mine that it's actually a giant scam.

Computers farm the coins, the amount goes up and up and up until they yank the cord. All the little fish lose everything and the people at the top reap the profits. I dunno though I haven't really looked into it.
 
its not a "scam" because you can buy real items with it.

ponzi scheme is more accurate

but the people who get in ponzi schemes and get out before shit hits the fan are the real winners

its a roll of the dice for sure because there is not actual "product" being made in a sense, just computations

too anonymous to invest heavily into for me, you think wall st has insider trading I bet bitcoin is one person's legal case away from going down the drain
 
I was talking more about investing in a stock of a company compared to bitcoin

not investing in regular currency
 
Police net $8.2m of drugs sent by mail - ABC

"Twenty people have been arrested and $8.2 million worth of drugs seized in a crackdown on drugs being imported via the international mail system.

The joint operation between the Australian Federal Police, Victoria Police and Australian Customs and Border Protection Service netted 18.1 kilograms of illicit drugs including LSD, heroin, steroids, ecstasy, cannabis, methamphetamine and cocaine.

More than 2,000 tabs of LSD were seized in Brisbane and Melbourne alone.

The operation took place over recent weeks and saw police execute 38 search warrants across five states and the Northern Territory.

The drugs were concealed in cushions, a handbag, prints, a jade dragon, cosmetic brushes, birthday cards and other letters and parcels.

More than $127,000 in cash was also seized.

Customs and Border Protection regional director Graham Krisohos says while most of the seizures were relatively small, they pose a "considerable cumulative threat".

The AFP's Scott Lee says the seizure will impact drug trade.

"These shipments contribute towards supplying the Australian market and exacerbate social problems within Australia associated with drug harm," he said.

The operation focused on Victoria in particular, with more than 14 kilograms of illicit substances seized in that state."

From: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-03-26/police-net-82m-of-drugs-sent-by-mail/4594666
 
Oops. I have just gone and made a thread about this with the AFP media release. If someone can please add the table from the AFP release I'd be very grateful. Please feel free to delete the new thread if you need Mods.

Media Release: Joint operation targets drugs sent via the mail
Release Date: Tuesday, March 26 2013, 09:17 AM

This is a joint media release with the Australian Federal Police, Victoria Police and Australian Customs and Border Protection Service.

Australian law enforcement agencies have completed a strategic blitz on drug importations via the international mail system, arresting 20 people and seizing 18.1 kg of illicit drugs worth $8.2 million.

The joint Australian Federal Police, Australian Customs and Border Protection Service and state law enforcement operation saw 38 search warrants conducted in five states and the Northern Territory during recent weeks.

Among the 21 drug types seized were LSD, heroin, steroids, ecstasy, cannabis, methamphetamine, GHB and cocaine.

Illicit substances were concealed in cushions, a handbag, prints, a jade dragon, cosmetic brushes, birthday cards and other letters and parcels.

The interception of LSD during the blitz was particularly interesting, with 1100 tabs seized in Brisbane and 1000 tabs seized in Melbourne.

Of particular note, one man was charged with six offences in Victoria for importing 1.36 kilogram of Ice from China, while another Victorian man was charged with four offences for importing MDMA, ecstasy and amphetamine in both tablet and powder form.

During the search warrants more than $127,000 in cash was also seized.

Customs and Border Protection Regional Director, Graham Krisohos, said that Customs and Border Protection and its partner agencies will continue to target drug importations via the mail system.

“While most of these seizures are small, high-frequency low volume importations such as ones through our mail system pose a considerable cumulative threat,” Mr Krisohos said.

AFP Manager Melbourne Office, Commander Scott Lee said the seizure of smaller importations can impact on disrupting the drug trade.

“These shipments contribute towards supplying the Australian market and exacerbate social problems within Australia associated with drug harm,” Commander Lee said.

This operation particularly focused on Victoria, with over 14 kg of illicit substances seized in that state.

Detective Superintendent Gerard Ryan of Victoria Police Crime Command said,

“This operation further highlights the effectiveness of Australian law enforcement agencies working collectively to minimize the impact of illicit drugs on the Australian community. Some people may believe that the internet offers them anonymity and immunity from prosecution for importing drugs – this operation proves such beliefs are wrong!”

“Victoria Police will continue to work with the AFP, Australian Customs and Border Protection Service and other law enforcement agencies in order to combat organised crime.”

Penalties for illegally importing drugs include life imprisonment and fines up to $850,000.

In addition, nine official cautions were issued and information collected during the operation will assist in future work.


(*Combined estimated street values for the heroin, cocaine, cannabis, methamphetamine, amphetamine, MDMA and LSD seizures only. Source: ACC Illicit Drugs Data Report 2010-2011)

Media enquiries:
AFP National Media (02) 6131 6333
Customs Media (02) 6275 6793
Victoria Police Media (03) 9865 2543

Note to media: Photographs are available on the AFP website: http://www.afp.gov.au/media-centre.aspx . Please contact AFP National Media for password access.

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