15th Issue Heroin Discussion v. Be the Death of Me

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I'm planning out my next high. I think that my neighbor gets his roxi script tomorrow, if not I'll probably see what the dope that my cab driver said he slings is all about.

I've been busting my ass starting a business with someone, so I need a little reward. It's about to get even busier since we have 4 jobs lined up before really even advertising, so hopefully that's a sign of good things to come.
 
^The cab driver might be legit, it doesn't sound like he's tryin to burn you....he could just be talking shit...you have to find out I guess....
 
Can Suboxone/Subutex too soon after loperamide cause precipitated withdrawal? I am getting conflicting answers.

I'm kind of wondering about what the deal is with those two drugs, but I'm planning on using the loperamide to negate the WD symptoms when I get to the end of my suboxone taper....I don't know if it will just prolong things, if I have to wait until I'm completely off suboxone, if I'll go through WD again when I discontinue the loperamide...
Hard to find a straight answer
 
When I detoxed the other week (off of a 1-1.5g/day five month run), I took 2mg Subutex at hours 22, 24, 30, 36, 48 and 72, and then 24mg lope at 96 and 120. Aside from the initial wait, I only felt some chills and had quadrupole sneezes the first week off. Otherwise it was very smooth. I know people claim it doesn't matter, but for me Subutex works way better than Suboxne. I was so sick at that 22 hour mark
I was at a gas pump at the time and bumped 2mg and before the gas filled I felta whoosh of relief. I never ever get *hit* by Suboxone, but do with Subutex.
 
When I detoxed the other week (off of a 1-1.5g/day five month run), I took 2mg Subutex at hours 22, 24, 30, 36, 48 and 72, and then 24mg lope at 96 and 120. Aside from the initial wait, I only felt some chills and had quadrupole sneezes the first week off. Otherwise it was very smooth. I know people claim it doesn't matter, but for me Subutex works way better than Suboxne. I was so sick at that 22 hour mark
I was at a gas pump at the time and bumped 2mg and before the gas filled I felta whoosh of relief. I never ever get *hit* by Suboxone, but do with Subutex.

Interesting, RL. I'm at the point where my run needs to come to an end and I'm considering the best way to get off shit shit.
 
When I have access to dope, it's virtually impossible for me to do a responsible legit methadone or suboxone detox....Maybe you should check into a week long detox and hop on a plane to somewhere as soon as you get out for a week or so....

the week-long inpatient detoxes have always worked best for me, but I've fucked those up plenty of times too....The only reason I'm doin a sub detox at home now is because I'm in fucking Nebraska!
 
I HAD to do a geographical relocation, which though not permanent, will buy me at least a month. Of course I cold-coppped during the transition, but I can't get anything here and it would be prohibitively expensive to get to the nearest open market. I was fortunate to get this opportunity, just wish it came a month earlier since the last month of the run got real interesting financially.

But man, despite the pain involved, it's true that detox is easy and staying off is hard. I am sure you know this. Take time off work if possivpe , grab some support meds and run from your problems. For us who just can't stop on will-power alone at home, it's the best option I think. It is SIGNIFICANTLY easier to go through the motions knowing I can't get it where I am now.
 
i ended up having to do some sort of drug replacement when i go to kick. normally its weed/coke or weed/benzos, as i can get off those far easier.

and i just read about this drug that the nazis came up with. i sort of wish it went into production (the junky side of me says so). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-IX (although i read some articles that said the cocaine dosage was 50mg and the meth was 30mg)
 
no that was just, idk what that was tbh

saw an old friend and thats all you need to know I guess to get what im sayin.

idk man, its a weird spot because I have like no tolerance and can get it and its just straight willpower keeping me from doing it but I do think about it a lot

and yeah this more or less is a lounge for me because some of the funniest people Ive ever met were heroin users
 
^Oh, it's cool I was just breaking balls or "taking the piss" if you're in the UK, I guess....

glad you're not doin it mannnn, don't do it, that heroin is EVIL shit dude!
 
nah im in the northeast I thought I made it kinda obvious but yeah cheers mate
 
^I know we had a whole conversation about Philadelphia! "Taking the piss" out of somebody is just a phrase that fascinates me, it seems so common....

Kind of like "cunt" is SO offensive in america, it's like the worst word, but in the UK it seems like there's school-children just running around calling everybody "cunts" like it's nothing....

Anyway, I digress....
 
yeah the c word is a big no no to any girl thats like slap in the face territory

well you figure england had to get something right eh?

not our fault we got better dope and more of it

Their heroin thread is a lot different then this one

I would like to see what they consider good actually, I might not be giving it enough credit
 
yeah the c word is a big no no to any girl thats like slap in the face territory

well you figure england had to get something right eh?

not our fault we got better dope and more of it

Their heroin thread is a lot different then this one

I would like to see what they consider good actually, I might not be giving it enough credit

I was in London for a couple months a few years back and the dope I tried was really good. I've had UK dope a couple times since then when buddies bring it over when visiting the states. Just like US dope, it's hit or miss. They have their good dope and their shitty dope. It's just so annoying to break down, even if it's good, that it's not really worth it.
 
^It can't be that much harder to break down! I mean, it can't take longer than 2 minutes, no? You're ust used to throwing down water and BINGO!
 
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