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Stimulants Can "Nootropic" drugs reverse memory loss from amphetamine abuse?

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Stimlover22

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My quality of life is severely declining due to short term memory loss from years of amphetamine abuse. I need some advice if you can please help me find a solution to this dilemma, I would greatly appreciate it.

I've abused prescribed amphetamines for 6 years, namely dextroamphetamine. I am also a recovering meth addict, and I have been meth free for 5 months. I am throwing away the rest of my amp prescription because I am fed up with the noticable impairment in my short term memory. I started noticing my memory loss about 3 months ago. I'll do things like getting up out if bed because I want to make a sandwich, and I will go into the kitchen, flip on the light and then all of a sudden I ask myself " What the hell did I just come in here to do?" and then I will recollect my intentions and proceed.

My biggest problem is this is affecting my job performance. I'm a bilingual call center rep, and I speak to many hispanic customers in Spanish every day. However now, i'll start stumbling over my words while speaking because I will draw a blank and forget how to say certain words..wtf? I have been fluent in Spanish my entire life. Like, I never have issues processing what they are saying to me but only at times I often have to ask them to repeat what they said to me until a second later it finally engages with my brain.

This is highly embarassing. I have been lately reading about the nootropic drugs aka "smart drugs" that reportedly boost focus, concentration, and improve memory in those who experiencing minor problems with cognitive impairment. One site in particular, www.awakebrain.com really caught my eye. They offer a plethora of different nootropic drugs but all are pretty pricey. If they work, I will justify spending the extra money. I need to know if nootropics are indeed beneficial and if so, which ones? Thanks...
 
Piracetam works for me, but i only really notice the effects if i take it occasionally rather than everyday. I think this is an atypical response as the effects are supposed to get better and better as you continue dosing.

The effects are simillar to having a cup of strong proper coffee when you have no tolerance so it should help your focus and concentration. If i took more than 3 in a day i would feel uncomfortably hyper.

You have to take it with a Choline supplement and with a meal for it to be absorbed properly.
 
Thank you Ho-Chi-Minh and Mydrugbuddy! I assume the TCA class of antidepressants isn't a problem either? I'm taking Viibryid and Amitriptyline plus Minipress at night.
 
Stimulants tend to be dopamine re-uptake inhibitors, which means there is more dopamine effectively changing your mood while you are using them. However there is a trade-off between dopamine and another kind of neurotransmitter, serotonin, which plays a different role in our memories. So, your memory might benefit from modifying your serotonin system. If your body is not meeting its potential for serotonin production due to your diet, the over counter supplement 5htp or l-tryptophan could help you. Serotonin reuptake inhibitors are available as prescriptions like prozac or over the counter with St. John's Wart. Also, I found that guanfacine (an ADHD prescription) improves my long term memory.
 
etasu said:
Stimulants tend to be dopamine re-uptake inhibitors, which means there is more dopamine effectively changing your mood while you are using them. However there is a trade-off between dopamine and another kind of neurotransmitter, serotonin, which plays a different role in our memories. So, your memory might benefit from modifying your serotonin system. If your body is not meeting its potential for serotonin production due to your diet, the over counter supplement 5htp or l-tryptophan could help you. Serotonin reuptake inhibitors are available as prescriptions like prozac or over the counter with St. John's Wart. Also, I found that guanfacine (an ADHD prescription) improves my long term memory.
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learned in psychology class years back... and i thought of this as i read your post... but the human brain must encrypt images and thoughts, which go through short term memory first which must be repeated so many times (repeating a phone number over and over again 10 times, rather than once for example) to be stuck into your long term memory..

which is a problem when you only have 5-10 slots and given the human mind processes 1000s of things per second.. just a bs number probably more, a lot is the subconscious that you don't even realize... but you must go thru the short term to get to long term and once its there in the long term... its there forever.. you may not be able to recall the information right away but let me tell you long term memory is permanent..

unless you actually suffer brain damage or brain cell loss... physically from trauma or if extreme stimulant or "onleys lesions" type shit does occur from extreme other drugs like dissociative anesthetic drugs... but that lesion thing is only an example and idk and dont care at the moment to go find out if dxm pcp ketamine can really cause neurons to shut down completely...

im geeked on amphetamine at the moment.. ive been up a while overlooking threads a long while before even dropping in a major thought... maybe the peak just hit me when i read the post u said about long term memory..

but i know for a fact short term is a must before it gets to become encrypted permanently into long term memory... and short term is easy to fuck up... i personally think of it as a cable snapping in between the two so to speak if u can visualize what im trying to say..

the brain is like a computer.. we really process and store "encrypted" i.e. like burnt cds i guess information... wow as i typed that... other room tv said "import and scan... some shit ... into your computer haha, earlier i called my friends car was going to break and it did..

idk bout you all but amphetamine does cause me to have many a times coincidental or maybe just more than coincidental thoughts ... or calling out the near future... its scary.. ok ttyls... haha BOOM .. jk but thats how i want u to visualize my happiness over nothing, at the moment, 5 min from now it will be dead and ill feel shitty ... im just happy to remember some major shit from college... i dropped out of btw...

edit: I was gonna major in psychology before i realized neuropharmacology .. as a whole is interesting to me... i just spend time over fascinating the subject trying to self teach shit thats too far ahead of the basics, (not all the basics) but that plus polychemical dependancy or honestly just plain major fuckin addiction to escapism due to life and as a human, we are too easilly stuck into addictions, "if it feels good, do it"... chimpanzees fucking is the first thing i think of from 7th grade haha...
 
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im geeked on amphetamine at the moment

No way! How could anyone guess 8o

Are you still working on a degree? Neuropharm sounds like quite an interesting field of study.
 
orgone said:
im geeked on amphetamine at the moment

No way! How could anyone guess 8o

Are you still working on a degree? Neuropharm sounds like quite an interesting field of study.
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haha no way anyone in the whole fucking world can tell right...?

only time i post.. damn near

and to answer your question not at the moment, a long moment now, but many other issues in life need to be placed back in order, and taken care of first...

not to go into it, but mental health issues along with family issues/tragedies in the last 5 years... felonies, near homelessness... working on disability just to ride the system and get back on my feet before it gets steeper than it already is...

i always mentally just roll with the punches... im flat and emotionless feel like a robot and i think on or off amphetamine/benzodiazepines/opiods... drugs in general... weed i forget lol as i dont use it nearly as much as i use to

but this all needs to be figured out and the elasticity of my emotional state seems very understandable... its a form of a self defense mechanism from stress in general and depression that i no longer feel... im today feeling like i can't talk to anyone like i do a lot, i hide in isolation when i can... but not to mention im in slight diazepam withdrawal ON amphetamines till monday...i have no money, i do what i can do to get by...

lucky me i have an easy dr and somehow rock him with words... it amazes me, but its not like im lying to him its a double win win.... i need/could really psychologically benefit from correct usage of these medications, yet at the same time im like YES time to say FUCK it ... but everyone wants benzos... and its hard when youre getting 3 of them one illegally monthly and still run out... 2 scripts of diazepam, and just ended clonazepam legally... all one dr..

subutex... 75 x 8mg a month, i dont use very much but it makes a lot of money.. and physically it was easy to end opiate dependency... im still addicted to opiate highs of course... H was an amazing/sad part of my life..

its the amphetamines... dex till us part..

i need to find a way to WANT to WANT to end the habit... but its not the use its the misuse...

same with benzodiazepines... specifically diazepam if i got 20 more mg.. a day, so 20 20 20 put into my own form of how i feel like i need it id be down... sometimes 40 is needed and holds it better/longer while feeling good but the 20 at night and id be golden...

i wish it was just weed how did i let something i feared as a child so much especially heroin lol (as one day i was letting someone bang me with the shit) it just blows my mind..

all of this... life... but atm i am content... like i gave out some good insight to the world... of BL as a human being or someshit...

this cycle is back and forth like a bipolar train wreck.. as if im not bipolar i just said that because of the pendulum that swings slow and very fucking fast.. 2 pendulums maybe 3... too much going on... everywhere i just shut down

"this is defeat" --- from underoath... lost in the sound of separation, read all the lyrics and as an addict (if the reader of this is at the moment in their lives and is on my mind... track at the moment) tell me that cd, then listen to it but especially read it

then understand that is my only real basic genre of music (and from mchenry and proud to be lol... 2nd of april alkaline trios next studio album is out) and it looks good .... from the two videos (real), and 2 more (just lyric videos over movie parts)...

too much has been said.. wow

BOOM

fuck it... lol this is therapeutic especially after my last two weeks..

edit: the past three months ive been working on writing lyrics and shit based on my inspirations just because im sitting here playing the waiting game and have someone who lives with me who said lets do it... and apparently everyone ive shown said or lied to make me feel good, but that (working on it in the closet till the last two months) that i have the ability to fit into both screaming and singing ... yet i understand im far from really being there... is this something good or bad? i mean it gets me to let out or try to help other people feel they aren't alone, or understand this dark place in life many of us BLers are in... fuck my voice but if the words could just be used id be happy as long as people keep saying good shit... which they have..
 
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perhaps ive hijacked this thread ... into my own rant ... my bad lol thats some blog shit... its hard to stop at the answering of the college question and going on but i want everyone to understand as much as they possibly can in every way shape and form... before accumulating their full idea on me based off my answer...

it does require such words in a way...

now to ask back to the thread... ive been looking into noopept and all "nootropics" in general.. but want and have a great source based on other supplements ... their phenibut (i got initially for no shit not a nootropic drug i was far from the subject of nootropics and noopept especially.. with no "nootropic drug" even ginko experience, but its [phenibut's] sedative/anxiolytic effects noticed from a shittier brand) is great... was great lol and such quantity and quality plus a chemistry sheet to show the shit in the package ... and all the sorts.... i clicked on this thread with no intent to post, but just to learn if noopept or any can do what the OP thread name exactly is... basically..

or help me manage my amphetamine abuse/adhd especially with impulsivity off the medication before and after discovering amphetamines when i was 17... forgot to add that in.. which is important to say i almost forgot to add why i was in here to begin with...
 
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orgone said:
Don't worry man I'm not judging you at all. I was just curious about the field itself :)
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i know.. thank you btw..

i just couldnt help myself..

its a great field and is needed to help modern medicine become the next... and next

but back to psychology its a young field... less than two hundred years old.. way less in real medical terms .. without studying the psychology i wouldnt have realized biochemistry, and neuropharmacology ... to the specifics that i enjoy learning about..

(BL has been the biggest influence since before even when I joined by about 3 years) ... learned a shit load here..
 
Man, its been like 6 years since ive touched amphetamines and I'm still having short term memory issues along with anhedonia. Not sure how to combat it but i would be interested as well.
 
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