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zo556

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To try and keep it simple, I think my friend is doing way too much molly. I'm not sure on exact doses but it's usually .1-.2g two or three times a week. Personally I love molly, but I like to keep it for special occasions and feel terribly guilty if I take it more than once a month. He started taking molly last July and I met him in September. At first he cut back because he knew my thoughts about overdoing it, but I guess at some point in December it started to become a more regular thing. What's worse is that he's hanging around new "friends" who also roll multiple times a week. I'm not the confrontational type so I have a real hard time letting him know how strongly I'm against his frequency but I don't see him changing his ways anytime soon and I'm worried that if I wait much longer it could be too late. Suggestions??? :/
 
The best you can do is voice your opinion to him. It's up to him to take your advice or ignore it. Even if he ignores you he'll find himself 'loosing the magic' of molly and it will do nothing good for him anymore.
 
It will just stop working for him pretty soon I'd imagine, and my guess is that he'll just move on to other drugs.... who really knows?

It's a feeling a lot of people feel compelled to try and re-capture
 
When the time is rite, Just check your friend, something like, Hey I think your rolin .. Your pushin the envelope to quick and once she is mailed she gone, in other words once little molly dumps you she doesn't come back.. you can enjoy this for a long time or you can blow it out, risk fukn yourself up, and loose pleasurable use forever.. Hey, i love it to but once she turns on you its over.. would like role with ya for years to come, but if you dont take your time and give a little bit more time in between we wont have a chance. You only have so many roles in you, no more no less, if you use them all up now, you will regret not having saved any for the really perfect times to come.. bro your going to fuckn lock yourself out for good.. JUST SAY WHATS ON YOUR MIND AND BE COOL.. HES YOUR BOY RITE

also there is a BL thread about what drugs have u used up or something close to that.. remember seeing x on there allot.. so maybe think of showing him that or other threads that explore the negatives of roln all your dice at once hope it turns out good.
 
I wouldnt be overly pushy...their situation is not the worst it could be. Nobody seems to keep doing tons of molly for very long before the fun wears off

be nice :)

I think I would be better off doing molly that often tbh
 
neversickanymore said:
When the time is rite, Just check your friend, something like, Hey I think your rolin .. Your pushin the envelope to quick and once she is mailed she gone, in other words once little molly dumps you she doesn't come back.. you can enjoy this for a long time or you can blow it out, risk fukn yourself up, and loose pleasurable use forever.. Hey, i love it to but once she turns on you its over.. would like role with ya for years to come, but if you dont take your time and give a little bit more time in between we wont have a chance. You only have so many roles in you, no more no less, if you use them all up now, you will regret not having saved any for the really perfect times to come.. bro your going to fuckn lock yourself out for good.. JUST SAY WHATS ON YOUR MIND AND BE COOL.. HES YOUR BOY RITE

also there is a BL thread about what drugs have u used up or something close to that.. remember seeing x on there allot.. so maybe think of showing him that or other threads that explore the negatives of roln all your dice at once hope it turns out good.
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Thanks that is probably the best route to go and I didn't really think about that. Only thing is he is all about the moment. He also has issues with coke and gambling. I doubt he'll change but I will say something because I'm totally enabling by partying with him every week.
 
After the first 10 times of doing ex, I kind of picked up on the fact that it wasn't really the kind of drug you could "abuse" like you can with a lot of other things...

I'm old, and that was a long time ago in the mid '90s....

Once I discovered meth, I pretty much replaced ecstasy with that because it was more reliable in terms of counting on being able to get high, and the high, in the beginning is kind of similar...euphoria-wise at least....

It wasn't until a few years later when I had access to as much of it(ecstasy) as I wanted because I was dealing it all the time, that what I always suspected about it was proven true....It pretty much stops working and just wears you out and makes you feel cranky, and shitty, and empty if you really push it....

the person you're talking about, IMO, doesn't necessarily have a problem with "molly" but is a person who just really loves the escape and high that drugs offers them....I can't really say shit because I'm the same way, but if you're not going to go down that road with them, you're better off just leaving them alone to figure things out for themselves, because this most likely is only the beginning...

I'm guessing you guys are between 16-18 years old, because you tend to recover a lot more quickly from that shit then than you will at even 22-23, and a lot of people don't even consider what consequences their actions are gonna have a little bit down the road, and with that shit, the emotional consequences at least, tend to show up pretty quickly....

An intervention I don't think will work....By all means be honest and express your concerns, but if it continues and you just can't cope with, you might just have to look out for yourself and cut them off....

Good luck to you
 
zo556 said:
Thanks that is probably the best route to go and I didn't really think about that. Only thing is he is all about the moment. He also has issues with coke and gambling. I doubt he'll change but I will say something because I'm totally enabling by partying with him every week.
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Hey zo, from the little i know it sounds like he is in for a hell ride (coke, if you make it, until that bitch turns on you.. you are often times in BAD BAD BAD SHAPE), i know, done that.. I hope it doesn't hapn, but it looks like you will have to take a stand for you. When your sure you will need to say hey i love you but i will have nothing more to do with you until you clean up, then you have to let go and hope he eventually pulls himself out of hell, you cant save him only he can do that.. sounds like you might be close to the flames, so please take an honest look at your use and what if anything its doing to you. I've seen many pairs of close friends washed into the blender of addiction, and sad to say, many many times only one gets out. I wish you both the best!!!!
 
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^Okay, if he has issues with coke and gambling already, maybe I kinda read the whole thing wrong, thinking you guys were 16-18, maybe not...shit! If you already have a pre-existing coke and gambling problem when you start using molly, and you're fucking 16?! Damn!! IDK...fuck it
 
BlueHues said:
^Okay, if he has issues with coke and gambling already, maybe I kinda read the whole thing wrong, thinking you guys were 16-18, maybe not...shit! If you already have a pre-existing coke and gambling problem when you start using molly, and you're fucking 16?! Damn!! IDK...fuck it
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Blue you have me rolin on the ground LOLOL.. hope u r well!
 
While it's not a good idea, and most certainly goes against harm reduction, I wouldn't say taking MDMA in those dosages 3 times a week is a serious problem. If they were escalating their dosages beyond 0.1 to 0.2 g per dosage, or were doing it every day of the week, I'd definitely consider an intervention.

However, at the rate they are going with it, it's likely they will one day lose the magic and then quit themselves.

Just my 2 cents, but most of all, thank you for caring for your friend and wanting to see them have a better life. You sound like a great friend.
 
Yeah we're 25...
It's hard because we are best buds. We have a lot of similarities but obviously are not on the same wavelength when it comes to long term consequences.
I've experimented with coke but it's just not for me even in moderation (thankfully!). I wasn't even into molly that much until I went to my first rave a few months ago and discovered how magical it can be. But...last night he was rolling on a fucking Wednesday!
As far as getting close to the fire, I feel ok. He offers me whatever I might want but I have no problem saying no and he doesn't push it. We also have the best hookup around for molly. Basically everyone in town knows to go to my friend if they need some. I just feel like things are going to start getting really messy pretty soon.

About dosages, I know he's taken up to .45g in one night. And when I don't see it I don't like to ask about it. His bday weekend last month he was up three days straight on molly, coke, M80s, adderol, booze and pot. By day three he did not look good and I didn't even want to be around him.
 
neversickanymore said:
Blue you have me rolin on the ground LOLOL.. hope u r well!
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I hope you are well too! I'm glad somebody doesn't take everything I say so fucking seriously!

Yeah whenever I hear that somebody has a "cocaine and gambling problem" it conjures images of some 50 year old guy that cheats on his wife and neglects his kids!

Aside from scratch tickets, I have no clue about gambling and have never met a bookie or even had a friend who had a "betting" problem in my fucking life....maybe it's just not my scene, IDK...
 
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zo556 said:
Yeah we're 25...
It's hard because we are best buds. We have a lot of similarities but obviously are not on the same wavelength when it comes to long term consequences.
I've experimented with coke but it's just not for me even in moderation (thankfully!). I wasn't even into molly that much until I went to my first rave a few months ago and discovered how magical it can be. But...last night he was rolling on a fucking Wednesday!
As far as getting close to the fire, I feel ok. He offers me whatever I might want but I have no problem saying no and he doesn't push it. We also have the best hookup around for molly. Basically everyone in town knows to go to my friend if they need some. I just feel like things are going to start getting really messy pretty soon.

About dosages, I know he's taken up to .45g in one night. And when I don't see it I don't like to ask about it. His bday weekend last month he was up three days straight on molly, coke, M80s, adderol, booze and pot. By day three he did not look good and I didn't even want to be around him.
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So basically he just a raging drug-fiend who loves to get high! I mean, I know I am, and thats why I don't think an intervention will really work.....

I don't know if addiction is a "disease" that certain people have and certain people don't, but I've never seen blunt confrontation and criticism really work except on TV, I guess!

You kind of have to play head games and be indirect to make your point with people like this, as fucked up as it sounds....stop speaking to them for awhile and then be vague when they ask you why. this will start a dialogue as to why you;ve been avoiding them and maybe he'll even ask you, "Is it because I'm getting high every fucking night?"...That way, it's them that says it, not you....

Also, you could make it a point to go do something really intersting and cool on a day you know he'll be getting fucked up, so the next time you talk to him and asks you what you're doing, you can kind of indirectly make the point that you're trying new things and actually living life while he's stuck in the same rut doing the same old shit!

Just ideas....These are the type of things that have made me really think about stopping.....
 
zo556 said:
About dosages, I know he's taken up to .45g in one night. And when I don't see it I don't like to ask about it. His bday weekend last month he was up three days straight on molly, coke, M80s, adderol, booze and pot. By day three he did not look good and I didn't even want to be around him.
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You should have at least told him the part I bolded up here. He deserves to know that you don't want to be around him when he's like that.

Doing this in a careful, but honest way should help.
 
Maybe this is splitting hairs but I always thought of an "intervention" as like... all your family and friends give you a deal breaker, and then take you to rehab.

Telling your friend that they are doing too much drugs is just a simple conversation, and it's one worth having if you care about them. Calling it an intervention is just going to make you nervous about the whole thing.
 
Foreigner said:
Maybe this is splitting hairs but I always thought of an "intervention" as like... all your family and friends give you a deal breaker, and then take you to rehab.

Telling your friend that they are doing too much drugs is just a simple conversation, and it's one worth having if you care about them. Calling it an intervention is just going to make you nervous about the whole thing.
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Yeah I agree with Foreigner. Have a heart to heart conversation with your buddy, stress that you don't like being around him when he's strung out, etc.

No need to set up an actual intervention until he's much worse off to be honest. And I think things like that can backfire; having a heart to heart would probably actually work. Just saying.

Wishing you and your friend the best of luck OP.
 
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