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Can Butalbital potentiate my Vicodin?

Siccness909

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I have 20mgs of Vicodin but my new found tolerance requires 35 mgs to get high. I also have 200mgs Butalbital. Can I use the barbs to potentiate the Hydrocodone to reach my level? How much should I take?
 
^This. If you've never messed around with barbs, don't try mixing it in with other depressants. If you insist on doing so, I would dose the barbs first (and no where near the 200mg), see how you feel, AND THEN IF YOU FEEL SAFE, dose half the hydrocodone, and proceed from there. Though, you've probably done what you're going to do as this is 5 hours old.
 
synthetix said:
no way whatsoever. that is asking to kill yourself. don't.
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^This. Mixing Vicodin with barbiturates (even ones like butalbital/Fioricet which aren't exactly the most powerful barbs out there) is very very dangerous. Barbiturates are not benzos and much more care must be taken when mixing them with other downers. Even if butalbital doesn't affect you much, mixing it with hydrocodone will potentiate the effects of both butalbital and the hydrocodone.

The reason barbs were mostly taken off the market in the 1950s and 1960s is because they are much more dangerous than and much easier to overdose on than the benzodiazepines are.

Seriously, mixing barbiturates with any other depressant is playing with fire. Don't do it.
 
I was saying dose low on the barbs and then gauge yourself before taking any vicodin. You really shouldn't be mixing barbiturates with other depressants, but I gave you the best advice I could, assuming you were going to do so regardless.
 
Ok well is their anyway I can reach my.level with the Vicodin even though I don't have enough to reach my normal dose? Not even 1 50mg butalbital pill?
 
NeighborhoodThreat said:
Even if butalbital doesn't affect you much, mixing it with hydrocodone will potentiate the effects of both butalbital and the hydrocodone.
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This is an important distinction to make. Taking them together won't just potentiate the hydrocodone, it will potentiate the butalbital as well.

As others have said...it is not wise to mix the two. However, if you insist, try less of each than you would normally take. Definitely do not take 200mg of the butalbital along with the hydrocodone. Please be careful.
 
I will I'm thinking just 10mgs of Vics and 50mgs of the butalbital, again I need 35-40mgs of Hydrocodone to get high..so i doubt Ill feel anything but I was suprised at the responses I never heard of this reaction between barbs and opiates. I'll work my way up starting with the barbs.

Could it potentate THAT much really?
 
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On that low of a dose, probably not, I thought you were talking about higher doses of butalbital. 10mg of hydrocodone with 50mg butalbital is okay considering you have a tolerance to hydrocodone, however.
 
Ok I did 10mgs of Hydro and 50mgs of barb. All parachuted at once if nothing I will dose another Vic. How should I go about redosing if nothing is felt? Another barb or vic etc
 
I'd be really careful about redosing. Barbs aren't euphoric so just because you're not feeling a very pronounced effect doesn't mean they're not working. Redosing in search of a high that isn't really there in the first place is how lots of overdoses occur.

Be careful man. <3
 
Like I said in the social, benzos work by causing the calcium ion channels to open in close letting out GABA; barbs work by just opening it and lettin it flood out. This is why they quit using barbiturates for the most part and switched to benzos; it's very easy/very hard to OD on barbs/benzos, respectively.
 
NT, I thought the barbs will potentate the hydro? And the barb will potentate as well? i know barbs arnt euphoric alone but I'm saying the interaction between the two.

Man I'm not feeling shit except slight sedation..I ended popping another 5mg vic. Maybe one more Vic and 1 barb?

Ended up doing, 20mgs of Vicodin with 100mgs of Butalbital total, it was a cool high slightly more sedating and I got some euphoria which was surprising due to high tolerance. But it didn't seem all dangerous like you guys said? Breathing levels were fine just felt like dosing n normally on opiates.
 
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Barbs and opiates could end up a really dangerous combination. Not saying your intended doses will kill you, but it's a bad path to take as far as I'm concerned.
 
Barbiturates damn! Those are something I wouldn't play with, they will sneak up on your and stop your breathing, see 50's and 60's celebrity overdoses...If your going to mix the two I would say cut the dose in half of each and then adjust for effect after it takes effect. One thing I do is look up some articles on anesthesiology and they always have good ideas on ratios of the hypnotic/sedative and opioid, of course one must do 1/4th of the doses they suggest since those are meant to essentially put you out. If you insist on mixing sedative/hypnotics with opioids then I would say please switch to benzos, something like Xanax or Klonopin is MUCH safer then any barb.
 
Don't try it to dangerous especially 4 someone who has never done it b4 and don't take any ones advice on how to dose the 2 just get fucked up on one or the other I u find promethazine which is a type of antihistamine used for Nausea and opioid potenating take it and some hydro be care full only take about 25mg max of prometh I suggest half a 25mg and use a little less hydro then u would normally why u want to is because the strengthening effect it has on opiates/opioids and don't over do the prometh because of its sedating effects that why it is sometimes used as a sleep aid be safe and have fun rolling on some hydro I recommend the prometh it makes the high much better u get no nausea from the hydro and a more intense high
 
Thats a lot of acetaminophen...

The actual narcotic part can be and has been done safely by millions...

Butalbital is a super weak barbiturate... Two (100mg)will not hurt anything. Hell, you still might be disappointed...
 
Rather than trying to potentiate with a potentially harmful combo, maybe just take a break to let the tolerance reset, or maybe try some other opiates. For me this combo would not bring the joy of opiated warmth.
 
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