Do alpha males exist? Is being good at picking up innate?

[malakaix]

I think so. But then there's just so many variables.

I actually went to google 'Omega' because i wasn't familiar with this term. There seems to be an entire list from: Alpha,Beta,Gamma,Delta,Omega and Sigma. It's interesting but i think there's alot of factors that makes up someone's ability to pickup with ease or difficulty; that said i think some simply have more of an advantage through physical attributes and features.

 

[B1tO'RoughJack]

It's bollocks, to a certain extent.

I've studied this for a few years now. There are just too many variables for humans - we CAN be fitted into the simple classifications, when our primal selves are ruling, but we're so much more than that. There are human classifications.

The closest thing to an alpha we have is someone who is strong, smart, a leader, easily adaptable, and has many women after him.

In the animal kingdom the variables between species are as follows - strongest, fast/most agile, smartest and most cunning etc.

In wolf/dog packs for instance - the alphas are a pair, and the betas are usually stronger than the alphas in purely physical strength, but they're not smarter or faster - they are purely the muscle and they are the testers - sniffing out whether someone is trustworthy to associate with the alphas, nay the PACK. The omegas ring the alarm and also mediate between pack members.

In humans we can have someone who acts alpha, beta AND omega, nevermind any of the other ones in between, because of our complexities..

In humans my theory is you are not an alpha UNLESS you have all the qualities of each level, it's not enough to have one or 2 qualities going for you.

I was born an "alpha", but I wasn't raised as such - it's been a journey of self investigation and changing bad habits to realize it all over - I've always had loads of women after me, I'm pretty intelligent, I'm fairly fit and agile, and I never used to see it but when I look back it makes me laugh - I've also always had other people see me as a leader - for instance when I'd be going somewhere with a group of people, I'd be daydreaming, turn a corner, and other people would be like "hey we gone teh wrong way!" "we were following you!" I was always like "what, I was just following the crowd!" this happened so many times, sooo many times in the past and I just wasn't in the right mind state to be what I was born to be - the stars and the lines in my palms collaborate to this.

I have a way to go - strengthwise and socially, but I can see it shifting when I stop and watch group dymanics - I am looked to for authority, and my pace leads and sets the pace when walking with a group, most of the time, with various, increasing groups of people.

All classifications exist in humans. I think I am an alpha female.

I reckon you are too, do you have many female friends?

 

[Illyria99]

These damn girls will go on and on about "confidence," but they all know that one tiny drop of confidence in a guy that looks as good as George Clooney goes a lot further than all the confidence a guy that looks like Michael Moore has. When chicks talk about confidence, it's a heap of bullshit.

Oh my. Somebody's bitter.

 

[rangrz]

What is confidence tho? I'm confident enough to jump out of a plane at night, or advance towards a heavy machine gun. But somtimes I'm a little shy about talking to someone. Am I an alpha or beta, based on that?

Being a general bad ass? I enjoy FUCKING UP the typical douchebag in a club. I'll break his legs for stepping on me toe. Does that make me alpha? Or does it just make me an aggressive asshole?

It's a bit of a vague term...

 

[Captain.Heroin]

What is confidence tho? I'm confident enough to jump out of a plane at night, or advance towards a heavy machine gun. But somtimes I'm a little shy about talking to someone. Am I an alpha or beta, based on that?

Being a general bad ass? I enjoy FUCKING UP the typical douchebag in a club. I'll break his legs for stepping on me toe. Does that make me alpha? Or does it just make me an aggressive asshole?

It's a bit of a vague term...

^ what he said

 

[DOB]

there are even a very small minority of men who may have had no sexual partners.

I dont know anybody like that....



























STOP LOOKING AT ME!!!

 

[rangrz]

The closest thing to an alpha we have is someone who is strong, smart, a leader, easily adaptable, and has many women after him.

Like I said in my previous post...what do those terms even mean? Strong? Sure, I can hump a ruck though the desert, or win a fight, but I'm not big and ripped. Smart? I can do dizzying mathematics... women after him? I have and have had my share of chicks after me, but I don't get that much attention from the "typical" night club going type girl.

But, I can be weak too. I can be stupid sometimes, and I can off-putting to people (men and women) at times.

 

[DOB]

I enjoy FUCKING UP the typical douchebag in a club. I'll break his legs for stepping on me toe. Does that make me alpha? Or does it just make me an aggressive asshole?

It's a bit of a vague term...

definately asshole.. I remember once I had multiple types of shrooms and some acid,the tracers and visual distortion was of ridiculous strenghts and I kept stepping on my mates heel when walking behind him.... becose my distance estimate was seriously off the center

I would always apologize,didnt meant it,but shit happens... when unimportant shit like this happens,give people chance to say sorry and let them leave in peace

 

[rangrz]

^

If the person is like tripping balls, or says sorry, or otherwise is not acting like a D-bag, ya, sure. But when it's the stereotypical "built", orange fake tan, chest puffed up "alpha"...I really enjoy taking them down a few notches, and showing that there is a difference between talking the talk, and walking the walk.

 

[Illyria99]

Guys who look for any excuse to fight are generally compensating. Especially when they brag about it.

 

[rangrz]

Compensating for what?

Lack of fighting ability? That's logically inconsistent. Lack of bad assery in general?..Dunno...I'm pretty comfortable with my level of my bad assery. Compensating for being dumb? I dunno, I can do integral calculus in my head. Compensating for lack of attention from women? I dunno, get plenty of it, and have a super awesome girl.

I'm just good at fighting...I'm a professional fighter, in the literal sense of that word. I enjoy it. I enjoy calling people out in general, be it calling them out on a poor understanding of physics, or calling them out for being not as bad ass as the image they project. I call people out on physics by going into the details and showing them why they are wrong, I call people on out fighting/bad assery by stomping them and showing them are are not as bad ass they think.

 

[Illyria99]

For a lack of confidence.

If someone were truly sure of themself, they wouldn't feel the need to brag about anything.

Bragging = tiny dick

 

[rangrz]

No, my dick is about average sized actually. There's a pic of it in the nudie thread previous to the current one if you want to see.

Again, lack of confidence? I'm obviously confident enough in my ability to not have my ass kicks to initiate a fight.

Maybe I just like breaking things...and making a pretty boy/hot guy, well...not quite as hot when you have no teeth and your nose is misshapen , etc. :D

Some men just want to watch the world burn...

 

[Illyria99]

No, I don't want to see...since I don't have a magnifying glass handy.

 

[rangrz]

lol. Your argument is still invalid, since it's premise it is demonstrably false.

 

[DOB]

^

If the person is like tripping balls, or says sorry, or otherwise is not acting like a D-bag, ya, sure. But when it's the stereotypical "built", orange fake tan, chest puffed up "alpha"...I really enjoy taking them down a few notches, and showing that there is a difference between talking the talk, and walking the walk.

+1

I hate these fake tan motherfuckers,for once we high five in complete agreement

 

[DOB]

For a lack of confidence.

If someone were truly sure of themself, they wouldn't feel the need to brag about anything.

Bragging = tiny dick

I think the Rangerz is cool dude with nice penis...

but when I used to go on elementary school there was this .... fat,ugly,dumb *snip* bully *snip*... he was bullying me becose he probably wanted to act like he is biggest boss but in reality he was probably raped by his parents *snip*.... was asking me to show him my dick when nobody was around,and when I said no,he was like "cmon maaan,atleast pubes...show me little bit of pubes,fuck SHOW ME YOUR HAIR!!!" lol

 

[B1tO'RoughJack]

For a lack of confidence.

If someone were truly sure of themself, they wouldn't feel the need to brag about anything.

Bragging = tiny dick

Braggin is often that- a lack of self confidence, OFTEN...

But usually it's overcompensation for some quality or material thing.

I've always been a talkative yet humble person, so in my case when I "brag" now, it's because I actually have things to brag about - just swinging my ego...and my big dick hahah Even now though I don't find myself bragging per se, but more expressing who I am - I agree that people who brag a lot are unattractive and hiding something.

Your small dick argument might work for some people, but on the whole as a generalization it is most definitely flawed.

Also - your post really sound like some PSYCHOANALYSIS - ain't that some "bullshit"?

I am trying to remember a quote by someone about NOT doing what you're not meant to do even if you can do it perfectly, and just doing what you're meant to do.

On a primal level we could have our ranked places - if you look at someone who is happy without many/any complexes, then look at their behaviour in a group, then if you're intuitive you will easily see what level they are at - alpha down to omega.

It's an uphill struggle to be someone you weren't meant to be, but it's possible, and it can even make you happy - it's just going against the grain. It's better to just be who you were born to be.

The one thing I find great to watch(I guess is because it's also where I am at), is when someone is rising through the ranks - going for the alpha spot - it's a very funny thing, animal group dynamics.

Personally, in slightly larger groups, I'm quite high - usually beta, occasionally alpha, but with groups who I'm very well associated with I am never alpha at the moment. Lower ranks or beta MAX (ba-dum-tsssss), in bigger groups I never even try anymore - I know naturally as I progress I will rise up with the need for competition until the very last minute, even then probably not much - I will use pure intellect.

I would be higher up already, but I became a lone wolf, so it's naturally harder to rise in ranking, plus in doing so I put myself down to omega status all the way, in order to understand what it was like to be poor and the underdog, that everyone shits on and takes their tension out on - it's not very nice, when it's not your natural ranking! But it's most definitely a humbling experience. I have much better understanding on a purely primal level, which still accounts for a lot with a great part of the population.

It's when it comes down to groups of r less, that I am always either the alpha, or possibly the beta if I'm having a bad day - it's a strange thing to become aware of - shifts in social standing.

 

[ech0s85]

ive hung out a lot in groups where there are guys who are, as has been said, insecure in some way and so are aggressive and try to control every little thing that goes on and do a lot of posturing or whatever. So from an outside perspective they would seem to be the alpha but its not true, although im quiet most of the time because i dont usually care about whats going on, if i do have an opinion on something it takes precedence. IME a lot of behavior that people see and think "alpha male" is actually just a guy that feels like a beta trying to cover it up.

its kinda like if you watch a show about lions where the younger or lesser males battle constantly while the main one just chills until something actually important happens.

 

[Illyria99]

Braggin is often that- a lack of self confidence, OFTEN...

But usually it's overcompensation for some quality or material thing.

I've always been a talkative yet humble person, so in my case when I "brag" now, it's because I actually have things to brag about - just swinging my ego...and my big dick hahah Even now though I don't find myself bragging per se, but more expressing who I am - I agree that people who brag a lot are unattractive and hiding something.

Your small dick argument might work for some people, but on the whole as a generalization it is most definitely flawed.

Also - your post really sound like some PSYCHOANALYSIS - ain't that some "bullshit"?

I am trying to remember a quote by someone about NOT doing what you're not meant to do even if you can do it perfectly, and just doing what you're meant to do.

On a primal level we could have our ranked places - if you look at someone who is happy without many/any complexes, then look at their behaviour in a group, then if you're intuitive you will easily see what level they are at - alpha down to omega.

It's an uphill struggle to be someone you weren't meant to be, but it's possible, and it can even make you happy - it's just going against the grain. It's better to just be who you were born to be.

The one thing I find great to watch(I guess is because it's also where I am at), is when someone is rising through the ranks - going for the alpha spot - it's a very funny thing, animal group dynamics.

Personally, in slightly larger groups, I'm quite high - usually beta, occasionally alpha, but with groups who I'm very well associated with I am never alpha at the moment. Lower ranks or beta MAX (ba-dum-tsssss), in bigger groups I never even try anymore - I know naturally as I progress I will rise up with the need for competition until the very last minute, even then probably not much - I will use pure intellect.

I would be higher up already, but I became a lone wolf, so it's naturally harder to rise in ranking, plus in doing so I put myself down to omega status all the way, in order to understand what it was like to be poor and the underdog, that everyone shits on and takes their tension out on - it's not very nice, when it's not your natural ranking! But it's most definitely a humbling experience. I have much better understanding on a purely primal level, which still accounts for a lot with a great part of the population.

It's when it comes down to groups of r less, that I am always either the alpha, or possibly the beta if I'm having a bad day - it's a strange thing to become aware of - shifts in social standing.