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MDPV Megathread 9: The thrill of the chase

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Nay, nay and thrice nay. And a further few nays for good measure. Absolutely not a study aid in any way shape or form. Ketamine would be a better study aid. Acid would make a better study aid. Fukkin Salvia would make a better study aid :D

Despite being related to methylphenidate, MDPV is a whole other kettle of fish(porn). There is simply no way of controlling doses in the way you wish to. Many have tried, none have come even remotely close. If you have MDPV you will redose compulsively until it's gone or you're sectioned. No middleground with this one, I'm afraid. Would be a bit of a trawl to go and dig out examples, but you're not the first to ask this by any means. Not all heed the warnings and their subsequent posts illustrate rather neatly why they really should've done :D

Ethylphenidate would be a far better choice for getting stuff done. Or MPA. Or even camfetamine. Basically anything that isn't MDPV :D
 
PLEASE READ 2DPMP 50mg FIRST TIME OVERDOSE
I don't know why I'm posting in this and I don't really know how this is going to work or if this is even worth it don't tell me I've posted it in the wrong place if I have because I don't really wanna sit here trying to work it out and getting angry over nothing because of the drug, I've been trying to work out how to start a thread or post about my 2-dpmp overdose for so long that it's making me angry and react even worse but I feel like it has to be done, I need to share my experience as soon as possible, but so far I took 50mg and I've been up for over 70 hours high blood pressure (Not so much as 20 hours or so ago) and heart rate is pretty bad, my friend is fucked up on this , he convinced himself taking pro plus and sleeping tablets is a good way to go about the situation we are in, I'm quite worried because his mum gave him the pro plus I don't think he fully understands what it could do his system, he took 4 yesterday and hes just been up with a heart rate of 180bpm while I've been taking Chlorphenamine to make me down and stuff, my heart rate dropped to 110bpm around 10 hours ago and now it's rushing again, I need to get out of this, medical attention is needed but I don't know how long that will take or what my mum works with drug users and seems convinced that if I just keep taking Chlorphenamine it will get it out of my system as much as that probably will work eventually, it's not my main concern, my heart after this is over is what I'm worried about. I've tried relaxing and sleeping but it's not the same I had 5 hours sleep but it's not sleep, it's too hard to explain in this state...

my bpm is at a fine level but my actual heart beat is not. I've been wearing something that checks my bpm and stuff round my wrist for about 20 hours so if I do crash and the two people with me are worried they can just try find out if my pulse and stuff is fine while I'm "sleeping" without interfering.

I felt pretty normal after 5 hours rest this morning I was talking fine and feeling like I could probably stay calm for most of the day but 4 hours later and I'm back to this stage again, the drugs in my system should of wore off by now or probably will do sometime soon I hope...

It's easy to say relax and do the things like that but I don't know really, there is a high chance I will come out of this with a heart problem but I'm hoping that it won't be as bad as I think, medical attention will take too long and I'm not sure how they would treat it.

Don't start telling me I am irresponsible and stupid for doing it, when I think it's obvious at this stage.

Thank you for reading get back to me or something I don't know.
 
Not quite sure what anybody can do other than to suggest seeking hospital treatment if you're really that concerned about it. I know you say that will take too long but you also said you've been concerned for hours if not days already. It's still the best option if you really are concerned about health issues - the sooner you call them the sooner they will arrive. Although I would maybe hazard a guess and say that reluctance to call for an ambulance is possibly more to do with the inevitible paranoia that comes with desoxy? I don't know where you live but if you're in the UK desoxy is not illegal - and even if it were your safety is more important than any possible legal repurcussions. Not that there would be any.

If you are seriously worried about your health then phone an ambulance or get somebody with you to do it.

If you really don't want to do that then I can only really suggest you will have to ride it out. Benzos will help. Pro Plus absolutely won't. That's a horrible idea! Why would anybody take a jittery stimulant to "help" with jittery over-stimulation? Please don't take any Pro Plus and the same for your friend. Either take no more drugs at all until it passes (which it will) or take benzos as required to calm you down. This is basically what medical treatment would most likely involve although obviously you'd be under medical supervision which is always a bonus if there were to be any problems.

50mg is a lot but not that much. It's not an amount I'd consider dangerous physically (assuming this has been taken over a period of time not all at once). Last time I took desoxy (every time I've taken desoxy, in fact) I took 500mg over four days and it took 72 hours after the last dose before I even started to come down. But come down I did. Was pretty rough going for those 72 hours, mind. I'd suspect it's more worrying about health risks than actual health risks which are the problem. I am no doctor though so - as ever - seek medical attention if in any doubt.

Other than that it really is just a case of riding it out. Desoxy has a beast of a halflife but it does end. It's not a whole lotta fun waiting for it to end but it'll get there <3
 
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PLEASE READ 2DPMP 50mg FIRST TIME OVERDOSE
I don't know why I'm posting in this and I don't really know how this is going to work or if this is even worth it don't tell me I've posted it in the wrong place if I have because I don't really wanna sit here trying to work it out and getting angry over nothing because of the drug, I've been trying to work out how to start a thread or post about my 2-dpmp overdose for so long that it's making me angry and react even worse but I feel like it has to be done, I need to share my experience as soon as possible, but so far I took 50mg and I've been up for over 70 hours high blood pressure (Not so much as 20 hours or so ago) and heart rate is pretty bad, my friend is fucked up on this , he convinced himself taking pro plus and sleeping tablets is a good way to go about the situation we are in, I'm quite worried because his mum gave him the pro plus I don't think he fully understands what it could do his system, he took 4 yesterday and hes just been up with a heart rate of 180bpm while I've been taking Chlorphenamine to make me down and stuff, my heart rate dropped to 110bpm around 10 hours ago and now it's rushing again, I need to get out of this, medical attention is needed but I don't know how long that will take or what my mum works with drug users and seems convinced that if I just keep taking Chlorphenamine it will get it out of my system as much as that probably will work eventually, it's not my main concern, my heart after this is over is what I'm worried about. I've tried relaxing and sleeping but it's not the same I had 5 hours sleep but it's not sleep, it's too hard to explain in this state...

my bpm is at a fine level but my actual heart beat is not. I've been wearing something that checks my bpm and stuff round my wrist for about 20 hours so if I do crash and the two people with me are worried they can just try find out if my pulse and stuff is fine while I'm "sleeping" without interfering.

I felt pretty normal after 5 hours rest this morning I was talking fine and feeling like I could probably stay calm for most of the day but 4 hours later and I'm back to this stage again, the drugs in my system should of wore off by now or probably will do sometime soon I hope...

It's easy to say relax and do the things like that but I don't know really, there is a high chance I will come out of this with a heart problem but I'm hoping that it won't be as bad as I think, medical attention will take too long and I'm not sure how they would treat it.

Don't start telling me I am irresponsible and stupid for doing it, when I think it's obvious at this stage.

Thank you for reading get back to me or something I don't know.
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You are not the same persona as I advised here are you?

http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/665006-Sleep-deprivation-from-2-DPMP!-Supplements-to-help

If you have taken 50mg 2-DPMP you should go to A+E, it is unlikely you will have any serious problems, but the sleep depravation will lead to a rather rough ride to say the least. The last person I read that took 50mg was up for 5 days.

If you go to hospital and explain what has happened you will be given benzos to chill you out and bring you BP down.

Just go!
 
Shambles said:
Not quite sure what anybody can do other than to suggest seeking hospital treatment if you're really that concerned about it. I know you say that will take too long but you also said you've been concerned for hours if not days already. It's still the best option if you really are concerned about health issues - the sooner you call them the sooner they will arrive. Although I would maybe hazard a guess and say that reluctance to call for an ambulance is possibly more to do with the inevitible paranoia that comes with desoxy? I don't know where you live but if you're in the UK desoxy is not illegal - and even if it were your safety is more important than any possible legal repurcussions. Not that there would be any.

If you are seriously worried about your health then phone an ambulance or get somebody with you to do it.

If you really don't want to do that then I can only really suggest you will have to ride it out. Benzos will help. Pro Plus absolutely won't. That's a horrible idea! Why would anybody take a jittery stimulant to "help" with jittery over-stimulation? Please don't take any Pro Plus and the same for your friend. Either take no more drugs at all until it passes (which it will) or take benzos as required to calm you down. This is basically what medical treatment would most likely involve although obviously you'd be under medical supervision which is always a bonus if there were to be any problems.

50mg is a lot but not that much. It's not an amount I'd consider dangerous physically (assuming this has been taken over a period of time not all at once). Last time I took desoxy (every time I've taken desoxy, in fact) I took 500mg over four days and it took 72 hours after the last dose before I even started to come down. But come down I did. Was pretty rough going for those 72 hours, mind. I'd suspect it's more worrying about health risks than actual health risks which are the problem. I am no doctor though so - as ever - seek medical attention if in any doubt.

Other than that it really is just a case of riding it out. Desoxy has a beast of a halflife but it does end. It's not a whole lotta fun waiting for it to end but it'll get there <3
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I consumed the 50mg at once (25mg smoked off foil and 25mg snorted) it took around 8 hours to come up/kick in, I've calmed down a bit more now I've seen some kind of reply and I'm not just sitting here trying to work out how to talk to someone who knows how I feel, I'm glad I didn't take pro plus and sleeping tablets. I got really angry at 5 of my friends yesterday when they all thought it would be okay to take prescribed sleeping tablets, I've been smoking weed over the past 40 hours thinking that it might at least calm me down only to find out now that it doesn't, I smoke weed almost every day so my tolerance is pretty high.

When I did come up it was like constant rushing almost like coming up on MDMA but lasting incredibly long, really intense... I don't know how to get benzos and I'm not really familiar with them, I've not done much research but I know if I had some it would help, I think I just need to go take a bath and listen to something relaxing!

My eyes aren't as bad as they were let's say 10-20 hours ago, I'm definitely not feeling the effect as much because it's almost been 4 days since I took the dosage and apparently at 50mg it takes 3 days to get down to 7mg.

I tried convincing my friend yesterday not to take pro plus and he just wouldn't listen he's in the state of mind where the drug is so strong that it's all in his head, that taking tablets won't do anything but he still took 4 pro plus and tried to make me take 2? For most of earlier he was convinced that he was smarter than all of us here telling my sister that she's not worried about me and telling my other best friend that they don't understand what this is and what I need to do, he left my house and went home so he could get sleeping tablets and to make things worse I went on my ipad and went on facebook to see another one of my friends left his facebook logged on and started getting messages from my friend (The guy who just left) who was on the drug saying that I couldn't handle drugs for shit and that I can't see the state I'm in, I'm sorry if this is confusing and hard to understand, it's even harder to put into words after 75 hours with no sleep and in this state.

I think I should really wait it out and just try my best to relax, I've done pretty well so far with food and drink but as for my other friend he hasn't eaten a thing during the day I don't know why he thinks it's right to take pro plus and why his mum would even think about giving him something like that, it's completely taking it this to another extreme and it just angers me.

Thank you for replying and taking your time to talk, I don't know how to use this site really and it's horrible not knowing what to do and feeling like I need to talk to someone about it I appreciate it more than I am showing it! :)
 
I must say you seem incredibly lucid for somebody who took 50mg of desoxy at once 8o8(8o

No lectures from me... but don't try that one again maybe? ;)

It does sound like the worst is over. A warm bath and some nice tunes to relax sounds like a winner to me. Weed generally isn't advised for overstimulated - and likely rather anxious as a result - folk. I'd avoid it as it may well cause a flare-up in anxiety.

Also, there are plenty here (especially in this thread :D) who know a thing or two about excessive stim-use. Do feel free to chat here or potter around the other threads. May help to have a distraction. Change of scenery can often help. Warm bath and chilled tunes also a good idea, I'd say.

And welcome to EADD - that's quite an entrance =D
 
Yeah a lesson has definitely been learnt from this, a few of my friends are back at my house with me now it's alright!

Yeah I'm really going to try relax as much as I can tonight, another night without sleeping isn't going to be nice!

Thank you for taking the time to help, it definitely has made me feel a lot more comfortable in this position :D
 
You seem in pretty OK shape actually, I also recommend a long warm bath to relax.

It sounds like your friend is being a bit of an idiot and you should confront him after this ordeal is over.
 
2-DPMP sounds insane man, 50mg and can be up for 5 fuckin days? Im going to stay far away from that :D
 
Oh how the mighty have fallen. I seriously don't know if I can do anymore PV. The Professor is befuddled.
Ok, I think I figured it out. It's not that I don't know if I can, it's that I know I'm going to, and I don't know how I feel about that. I'm frankly a little scared.
Cuz we all know I'm going to. It's already been ordered.
The depth of my addiction is constantly brought to my attention by little things that I think, feel, see and do in preparation of the binge. It's always on my mind when I don't have it. Life has become a series of annoying breaks between runs of doing PV. And it's been that way since summer of '10, until I had a 7 month break while I was locked up, during which time bath salts and plant food were made illegal in my country (I had been getting pure PV by mail for some time tho). I got out and was sorely disappointed when I went to the local spot to get some wacky-powder and was told they had been raided, two months prior. This was over a year ago, and it's been pulling teeth and jumping through flaming hoops to get my hands on it. And for what? Hours spent doing nothing worthwhile, tuggin' my dick or having some slut do it for me, while neglecting my friends, family, kids, my music, my job . . . Neglecting My life.
Anywho, I'm just lamenting. I have nowhere else to talk about this shit, so to quote the wise MDPV_Psychosis: Ignore me.
Wait, actually don't for this question:
Do any of youz guyz (or galz) have experience taking MDPV while on antidepressants? Specifically Zoloft? I'm thinking it will be marvelous, but Im not sure. Wondering if anyone has had any adverse reactions. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Happiness,
The Prof
 
I've not taken it whilst on Zoloft/Sertraline - or any other SSRIs for that matter - but I've taken it many times whilst on tramadol (an SNRI) with no problems other than being a bit more jittery on the first day. If it was gonna have any nasty surprises I'd lay money on tramadol being the one that turned things tits up but was fine with it. Given SSRIs lack the "N" part - noradrenaline/norephinephrin reuptake inhibition which I'd be more wary of causing issues than serotonin reuptake inhibition - I'd think you should be okay. Only an uneducated extrapolation though so hopefully somebody else will have more direct experience or knowledge of any potential risky interactions.

As for peev addiction? I don't think I quite fall into that category... although it could maybe be argued that all the regulars here have some level of addiction to the stuff even if we're not using daily/habitually. It's still clearly something of a focus for us all even when between runs. In my view it's only a problem if it actually is a problem - getting in the way of other aspects of life, causing problems with friends/family/work/health/mental health and so on. Basically if you feel it's dragging you down then it quite possibly is. I don't think the simple fact of looking forward to the next big blowout is in itself a Bad Thing but it really depends on your own situation and how you see it.

/most pointless comment so far?
 
yeah ive been on ssris (Sertraline) for 10 yrs or more and taken pv heavily for 6 months and then more spareinglytly thereafter (since meph disappeared really). I look like shit mind you after a session as you would expect, and i worry about some occassional heart palps, so i take my lamb shanks nice and slow lol.., well at least until the jockeys are approaching the finising line. I must try to move abiut more and fuckin drink and eat, my piss burns as it comes out its so cocentrated. If my singular experience is anything to go by there is no dangerous interaction to worry about. As im sure you know the worry some thing is anything that releases or stops the uptake of serotonononin when on ssris----i wont go on ---you know ths...

Say if the total duration of a pv high is gonna last 4 hrs, anyone else find that that the ultra sexual part is only gonna be for some 20 minutes or so in the first hr or so, and then only for a brief 20 mins or so or is it just me ?. You have tol earn to strikr while the iron is at its hottest to be promoted to fitsr Dan PV. Im not sure its worth dedicating ones life work to the study of that though.Meph would have me like a raging horn dog until supllies ran out.

oh, and the guy asking abt the studdy aid - theres a new RC just released, think its 3,4cmtp or something like that. I guarentee im no shill but it has been the vry best discovery for work requiring, focus, attention, speed, acuracy. All the the parts that make an ideal study aid. It is extremely potent so if you dont want to see your heart flying through your ribs get some accurate scales or loquid measure. Not sure what the best liqui medium woulbe tho, maybe some1 else can addvize. I took 20 mg , about the size of a small pile of salt but please dont try eyebealling as my small could be 100 mg different to yours. Just hoofed it, smooth as a rolls royce. By sheer luck 20 mg turned out to be the ideal dose for me. No jiteriness or overstimulation, just perfect calm concentration. I sholud get a job writing the crap thst goes on ceral packs, see if they wanna start doing thrm on rCSs. I found speed ok but my finished work was always mediocre at best, byt rathet than taking 4 days from start to finish it would take 5 hrs for a 2000 word essay. Didnt have a clue about the subject before i started my mental timer and it was good to be able to concenrate. My reserves were non existent.

SHambles, your speedball sounds insane, you must have the mental fortitutude of someone with a lot of mental fortitude or youd have been in a padded cell most of your lifr. Id nver dare cattempt anything like that, my psyche is too anxious, not stable or strong enough to enjoy what must be a thrilling experience for those whoa rent way into panic attack city. I thnk i onlu took 20 mg again today, but cant sleep for shit tonight. ive had 1/3 diphenydramine, 1 phenergan, 2 etiz, ans am about to build a nice big MAM2201 spliff. I find too much of either and you dont wake up until 10 pm the next day. Phenazepam being the worst culprit of all for that, Slept till 10.30 the other night. I was ver confuesed why it wasnyt getting light at 8. unless meticulously measured. (am i sleeepy yet nah- im sure i only took 1 x20 mg 3,4cmtp didnthave this effect yesterday.. Mind you i took enough downers to knock a horse over.

It seems so far to me that 4,3tcmp looses its pleasentness when taken every day, and is likey to best kept as a once a weeker.
. Probably just lack of food aking me feel wide alert but tired. Fuck im glad that i wrote id taken the etiz up ther but i really dont remember doing so.. A nice big fat MAMMA coming up now.

If anyone was to ask me had i taken anything tonight, would they believe me if i said no. No effect from the sleep aids yet. BIG
MAMMA time.
 
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mdb2, i've deleted two of your posts because they were duplicates. You're fucked on benzos ;) Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to stop taking drugs and go to bed. This message will self destruct in 3... 2.... 1....
 
TheProfessor1 said:
Oh how the mighty have fallen. I seriously don't know if I can do anymore PV. The Professor is befuddled.
Ok, I think I figured it out. It's not that I don't know if I can, it's that I know I'm going to, and I don't know how I feel about that. I'm frankly a little scared.
Cuz we all know I'm going to. It's already been ordered.
The depth of my addiction is constantly brought to my attention by little things that I think, feel, see and do in preparation of the binge. It's always on my mind when I don't have it. Life has become a series of annoying breaks between runs of doing PV. And it's been that way since summer of '10, until I had a 7 month break while I was locked up, during which time bath salts and plant food were made illegal in my country (I had been getting pure PV by mail for some time tho). I got out and was sorely disappointed when I went to the local spot to get some wacky-powder and was told they had been raided, two months prior. This was over a year ago, and it's been pulling teeth and jumping through flaming hoops to get my hands on it. And for what? Hours spent doing nothing worthwhile, tuggin' my dick or having some slut do it for me, while neglecting my friends, family, kids, my music, my job . . . Neglecting My life.
Anywho, I'm just lamenting. I have nowhere else to talk about this shit, so to quote the wise MDPV_Psychosis: Ignore me.
Wait, actually don't for this question:
Do any of youz guyz (or galz) have experience taking MDPV while on antidepressants? Specifically Zoloft? I'm thinking it will be marvelous, but Im not sure. Wondering if anyone has had any adverse reactions. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Happiness,
The Prof
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Well you did go hog wild and order 10 grams and got like 19 right? Honestly that kind of quantity is just asking for addiction.

I used to go on little 1 gram binges as often as I could and it (maybe 3 times a month) and it wasn't long at all before I realized mdpv was really pulling me in and I didn't care about anything else.

I can't even wrap my mind around 19 grams of mdpv. I've had vendors bump my apvp orders fat to like 3 grams and even after that I was seeing the shit when I closed my eyes and in my dreams. Money was always tight for me when I used mdpv, I'm glad I never went beyond a gram at a time with that stuff.
 
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