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Hey Maxalfie, I like knowing whats going on in the world wide dope scene too. Thats why I sometimes post info here about whats going on in the US dope scene- plus I consider this thread my home thread even if I am a bloody Yanky Noodle Wanker...lol... this is where most of my friends are at and probably the most intelligent group of dopefiends on BL. Hope your doing well, I'm getting ready to smoke some more powdered mexican gear... but I'm struggling to evade the clutches of full blown addiction.
Backroll, thats cool that you were into it. Was wondering how realistic the London episode was, atleast in terms of the scale of the coke scene. One thing they mentioned was the cost of coke. There was am episode on crack where they showed coke produced in Peru. The head chemist that produced paste into cocaine HCL said that he planned to export his product b/c it was only <snip> US in Peru but <snip> in the US and a staggering <snip> in the EU. That would make the drug extremly expensive, cut, or both in the UK. But I have heard that Spain and the UK were becoming centers of use and Europe was replacing the USA as the main consumer of coke. By the way- really good coke, which I have had a few times is a very flacky snowy white to off white/yellowish flacky powder. kinda has the consistancy of the middle eastern delicacy, halva, before being railed up.
And they never discussed the whole mephedrone phenomena, BL should make a documentary. What was interesting was that they were saying that the UK has so many grow operations that its becoming an export country. I get the impression that cannabis is frowned on to some extent by British society, if it is a drug of the poorer classes, which seems bizarre comming from a place like California. Here people are more terrified of Heroin and Cocaine. Plus as far as stimulants go, in alot of this country, people have embraced methamphetamine, modern day American moonshine. Always wondered why it never caught on in the UK (outside of the gay community),
although it has a very sinister side to it even compared to coke or gear.
Anyway, Backroll, I'm gonna need to get clean too. I took 0.1 mg sub yesterday during the day but gave in. I think it might have attenuated my high somewhat. I have some of the other stuff- xanax, klonopin instead of valium. Loperamide, have to check out the herbal stuff you mentioned. Plus I got 50 mg methadone in pill form which is probably enough to taper given my habit.
But hey compadre, lets do it, lets get it done!
Good luck with getting the place and I hope things go well with getting your kid back.
But I gonna smoke some now- wish I didn't get it but you know it aint going down the toilet- or WC- or whatever you call it. My daughter comes back with my wife from Arizona Tommorow so have 24 hrs to get my shit straight plus I work tommorow. Its 1015 here PST. I think I'm gonna watch Drugs inc Hawaii or Alaska. Or maybe New Orleans- I like that one along with detroit episode. Or maybe I should pick a boring one like Hollywood- probably gonna nod through most of it...lol.
Backroll, thats cool that you were into it. Was wondering how realistic the London episode was, atleast in terms of the scale of the coke scene. One thing they mentioned was the cost of coke. There was am episode on crack where they showed coke produced in Peru. The head chemist that produced paste into cocaine HCL said that he planned to export his product b/c it was only <snip> US in Peru but <snip> in the US and a staggering <snip> in the EU. That would make the drug extremly expensive, cut, or both in the UK. But I have heard that Spain and the UK were becoming centers of use and Europe was replacing the USA as the main consumer of coke. By the way- really good coke, which I have had a few times is a very flacky snowy white to off white/yellowish flacky powder. kinda has the consistancy of the middle eastern delicacy, halva, before being railed up.
And they never discussed the whole mephedrone phenomena, BL should make a documentary. What was interesting was that they were saying that the UK has so many grow operations that its becoming an export country. I get the impression that cannabis is frowned on to some extent by British society, if it is a drug of the poorer classes, which seems bizarre comming from a place like California. Here people are more terrified of Heroin and Cocaine. Plus as far as stimulants go, in alot of this country, people have embraced methamphetamine, modern day American moonshine. Always wondered why it never caught on in the UK (outside of the gay community),
although it has a very sinister side to it even compared to coke or gear.
Anyway, Backroll, I'm gonna need to get clean too. I took 0.1 mg sub yesterday during the day but gave in. I think it might have attenuated my high somewhat. I have some of the other stuff- xanax, klonopin instead of valium. Loperamide, have to check out the herbal stuff you mentioned. Plus I got 50 mg methadone in pill form which is probably enough to taper given my habit.
But hey compadre, lets do it, lets get it done!
Good luck with getting the place and I hope things go well with getting your kid back.
But I gonna smoke some now- wish I didn't get it but you know it aint going down the toilet- or WC- or whatever you call it. My daughter comes back with my wife from Arizona Tommorow so have 24 hrs to get my shit straight plus I work tommorow. Its 1015 here PST. I think I'm gonna watch Drugs inc Hawaii or Alaska. Or maybe New Orleans- I like that one along with detroit episode. Or maybe I should pick a boring one like Hollywood- probably gonna nod through most of it...lol.
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amnesiaseizure
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Jspun, their portrayal of cannabis sounds like utter rubbish to me. It is and has been for as longs i can remember the drug that almost everyone does or has regularly used and the idea that it's a working class thing is a new one on me. Coke has become a 2-tier drug but i haven't been around it for years now so someone else would know more than i. Thought the really good stuff was around £100 a gram though, not 200. There's taking the piss and then there's taking the piss!
JSpun: On that London episode of Drugs, Inc - I'd call bullshit on almost all of it. Very selective at best, almost tempted to say scripted at worst. Coke is very popular here - can be bought in virtually every pub in the land on weekends especially. Plenty of "normal" people are happy to buy a bit of shitey, overpriced white powder (which may or may not contain some cocaine but even if it does it probably ain't much) when they're pissed of a weekend. I'd say we have far more people who think they use cocaine than who actually do use cocaine really.
Is diferent on the estates and the like. That part seemed nearer to being accurate. Again, not great quality usually and also expensive. Rock is more common than powder on most estates (equivalent of "The Projects" over the pond, I suppose) I know of though. Powder is more popular with the pub/club crowd. Decent quality can be found but is ridiculously expensive (£80-100/g - even more sometimes I've heard) but doesn't really guarantee good quality. Mostly seems to be the same kinda quality that went for half that amount or less a decade or so back. Bogstandard powder can still be bought at around £30-50/g but the quality is generally atrocious.
Cannabis was also a bit misrepresented. It's use if very widespread and certainly not just amongst the "lower" classes. It's expensive now too so fuck knows why we're exporting the stuff. Pure profiteering - artificially inflating it's value is all really. £10/g (usually actually more like 0.7g or thereabouts) is the standard price of high-quality weed most places now.
Heroin quality and price seems to be very variable around the country. It's also very widely used so really should've been covered at least a bit. Have a feeling they tried to portray London as some kinda playground of the rich as we don't tend to have large populations of homeless addicts that make for good expoitative viewing fodder to compete with the other shows in the series. We do have homeless addicts but nothing like the levels of fukked-upness that seems to be common in the US and places. Welfare system is far from ideal here but does keep a lid on the outrageous levels of desperation shown in some of the other episodes.
Is diferent on the estates and the like. That part seemed nearer to being accurate. Again, not great quality usually and also expensive. Rock is more common than powder on most estates (equivalent of "The Projects" over the pond, I suppose) I know of though. Powder is more popular with the pub/club crowd. Decent quality can be found but is ridiculously expensive (£80-100/g - even more sometimes I've heard) but doesn't really guarantee good quality. Mostly seems to be the same kinda quality that went for half that amount or less a decade or so back. Bogstandard powder can still be bought at around £30-50/g but the quality is generally atrocious.
Cannabis was also a bit misrepresented. It's use if very widespread and certainly not just amongst the "lower" classes. It's expensive now too so fuck knows why we're exporting the stuff. Pure profiteering - artificially inflating it's value is all really. £10/g (usually actually more like 0.7g or thereabouts) is the standard price of high-quality weed most places now.
Heroin quality and price seems to be very variable around the country. It's also very widely used so really should've been covered at least a bit. Have a feeling they tried to portray London as some kinda playground of the rich as we don't tend to have large populations of homeless addicts that make for good expoitative viewing fodder to compete with the other shows in the series. We do have homeless addicts but nothing like the levels of fukked-upness that seems to be common in the US and places. Welfare system is far from ideal here but does keep a lid on the outrageous levels of desperation shown in some of the other episodes.
pinkpapaver
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ha be gods. i have cut my habit in 2 or in 3. just wish i had no responsibility for anything for a couple of weeks while i got my head round it all. you do start thinking about the time you've wasted on the gear and all the things you've fucked up. you've done 6 months now maxie?
Well done PinkP that's brilliant,you should be so proud of yourself.
Yes it will be 6 months for me at the end of this month. Saw the doctor yesterday and have asked him to slowly reduce my methadone script for me.
I know what you mean about thinking of all the things you've wasted while on the gear over the years.
No use letting those things get to you though PinkP as those things have been and gone and you can't do anything about them now.
I still sometimes think of the cash I've wasted & friends I lost because they didn't like me using but you can't let thoughts like that get to you.
The past is the past now you can just concentrate on the future and what you want to do with it.
Keep it up girl, you are doing great.
I just end up paying double for what i use to get pre 2010 but its lovely and i use alot less - where as befor i wouod just chuck .4r on the foil i now put.2 and then do another .1 or do the tooter and i get to where i want to be. In a way it makes no difference as when it was it was 110 for 1/8 now its double but i use nearly 1/2 as much so not much lost.
But as another OP said heroin is now s rich mans game - cant believe it hasnt changed either by the S.A or by different suply routes from 'stan apart from the the pakistan connections.
GOt me a strip of oxy's for a change of high snort 1/2 aqnd chew tha other , takes a while to get use to but v nice when you get in to it.
But as another OP said heroin is now s rich mans game - cant believe it hasnt changed either by the S.A or by different suply routes from 'stan apart from the the pakistan connections.
GOt me a strip of oxy's for a change of high snort 1/2 aqnd chew tha other , takes a while to get use to but v nice when you get in to it.
I just end up paying double for what i use to get pre 2010 but its lovely and i use alot less - where as befor i wouod just chuck .4r on the foil i now put.2 and then do another .1 or do the tooter and i get to where i want to be. In a way it makes no difference as when it was it was 110 for 1/8 now its double but i use nearly 1/2 as much so not much lost.
But as another OP said heroin is now s rich mans game - cant believe it hasnt changed either by the S.A or by different suply routes from 'stan apart from the the pakistan connections.
GOt me a strip of oxy's for a change of high snort 1/2 aqnd chew tha other , takes a while to get use to but v nice when you get in to it.
But as another OP said heroin is now s rich mans game - cant believe it hasnt changed either by the S.A or by different suply routes from 'stan apart from the the pakistan connections.
GOt me a strip of oxy's for a change of high snort 1/2 aqnd chew tha other , takes a while to get use to but v nice when you get in to it.
pinkpapaver
Bluelighter
http://www.ukdpc.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/dealing-with-the-stigma-of-drugs.pdf
this looks interesting. think I'll send it to my sister. She likes reading research and she likes dissing me. Perhaps she'll be less keen to diss me if she sees what the researchers say rather than hears what I have to say...save me reading it
this looks interesting. think I'll send it to my sister. She likes reading research and she likes dissing me. Perhaps she'll be less keen to diss me if she sees what the researchers say rather than hears what I have to say...save me reading it
swc1
Bluelighter
Scored three bags of mediocre gear in Dublin today, still they are holding me though. This new contact I've found, the quality of his dope is all over the shop either blinding or just ok. I think it's my tolerance tbh (took me longer to remember that abbreviation than to actually just type out the words). I'm on foil and just refuse to go bag to the needle, the slippery slope turns into the vortex rabbit hole from the wizard of oz if I do go back. Anyway that's my update, might need to look for a more reliable source, thing is with this fella is that there's no bullshit or waiting around and he doesn't turn his phone off, he will actually tell me if it's there or not and when to expect it. I think he's just on pharms not gear, hence the ability to deal quite promptly.
goodnight everyone.
goodnight everyone.
swc1
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That's a great read PP. Good to see some printed truths.
brimz
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You think i thought it was a load of contrived bullshit . Nothing personal
I didn't think it was that bad to be honest. Addressing the stigma around drug addiction is never really a bad thing. Of course I don't think stigma would be such a big issue if there was better drug policy in place as well as reforms in the prison system. It's hard to change the public's perception if the government isn't willing to change the country's treatment of addicts.
brimz
Bluelighter
Any self respecting journo shouldn't need a guide about how to write .
swc1
Bluelighter
i just thought it was close enough. in comparison to the leaflets we get on this side of the water, fuck me its gospel. i might actually try scan in one, they are actually hilarious. comic sans 5 year old like stereotype freehand drawings. haha actually chuckling thinking about it, is saw the most recent ones we have here in ireland in our occupational health office at work and fuck me they're funny.
i like the table in this bit of material though that states what being called by others makes you feel like, im quite sensitive to being called a junkie, some aren't personally i am.
i like the table in this bit of material though that states what being called by others makes you feel like, im quite sensitive to being called a junkie, some aren't personally i am.
Amnesia Seizure I'm sorry, I meant $200.00/ can't find pounds function on my keyboard. And both you and Shambles, thanks for clearing things up. I wouldn't find it strange that coke HCl is a drug of the affluent- thats the case in most of the world. In the 90s I was getting really really good coke for 50-$60 a gram US. Paid $40 once for decent coke,. This is in contrast to the 80s when the going rate was $100- got an 8 ball once of very good quality for $350.00- no brake. 3.5 grams where going for $100 by 94'.
But anyway I had a feeling that episode was dodgy. Again cannabis being a drug of the working class and not cut across socioeconomic groups seemed ludicrous.
But yea, not mentioning gear or MDxx at he very least, or mephedrone seems to be a great ommision. The LA episode I think is fairly acurate. The Hawaii one is accurate, esp so far as methamphetamine (called Bhatu there, not as much called Ice) had a girl I work with from the Islands that confirmed this and I know the gear cost many times what it does on the mainland. Alaska- I know there is alot of coke and methamphetamine, but 3% of Anchorages population being addicted to smack- not sure how accurate. Wonder about New orleans and detroit- they seem to be an addicts paradise and hell. According to the detroit episode you can get good china white from Burma- and the drugs are cheap. Puerto Rico wouldn't be a huge suprise from people I know from there.
Congrats Pink!
I'm fucking up. Trying to be good. Got a hold of some methadone 10 mg pills. Hooked up dope the other day from my scandolous middleman. It was powder but paid $100 for a gram probaly more like .25- used to get 3g for $100 when I had a proper habit but have avoiding getting a proper connect to not get strung out- on my way though. Anyway, today I was jonesing, tempted but wanted to hold out. Then I get a txt from this dude- my middle man asking if I knew someone who wanted to buy a watch, I pad, or "I'm illing, can you help me out."
That just fired up my brain- I can get more, maybe negotiate a $50 piece this time. I txted the fuck- no, sorry, I can't hook you up.
My friend from work- the one from Hawaii is like a sister. Shes 4 months pregnant. We usually cool, but we were supposed to study last week. Drunk I told her I would have to stop by dickheads to hook up and then would take her to lunch. My wife has her phone number and was suspicious so when my wife called her, my friend B told my wife what I was up to- she used to smoke Bhatu but was legitimately concerned for me. My wife was pissed off, but then wanted a little piece of black- she is on only 1 mg sub, which is part of the reason she was pissed- no longer gets her high nor a blocking dose- but simmered down after I kicked her a little piece. But B added to my missery because my wife has been out of town so she has been comming over to check on me. She is actually a good friend but I would have to wait more than 6 hours on days I had dope to smoke until she left.
But anyway, thinking i had gone over a week without dope and had put it resolutely behind me she had a PCA syringe of dilaudid- 7.5 mgs left. She had to waste it- requires co-signiture in this country. In the med room she kept saying j- you want this, i'll let you have it. I was like - you ready to start a #20 IV in my AC- like 53 ml of volume. She's like yea grab me a kit. We were joking at first, but then it occured to me that she was testing my sicerity. Before disposing of it she was all "are you sure". I was like hell no, and B this aint cool your making me jones. She dumps it but was like "its been over a week (actually 1 day unbecknowest to her)- your so strong, I knew your done with this." Then she came and appologized to me latter. Being human this stoked the fire.
Anyway, I didn't score dope. I'm under my wife scrutiny who returns tommorow, B- who is a hot Hawaiian chick, but our relationship over the last year and a half has grown into a big brother-little sister- she knows alot about my history... but does not understand the life of an opiate enhusiasts though i have tried to explain it to her which she doesn't get.. now assuming a role of co-dependence... she does that kinda shit with her fiancee-tests his sincerity- I know because he has told me that and she has told me that so I hear both sides.
But bottom line- gotta stay clean. Just alittle
And I'll say ad nauseum- if i really want to get good cheap dope I'd make the hour drive to TJ. But I don't want to get strung out again. No way in hell I'd get away with crossing the border- would have a panick attack waiting an 1/2- 1 hour to cross over by foot, and would totally blow it waiting 1.5-2 hours to cross by car -get sent to secondary.
Shambles Council Estates/ UK social services are a great idea b/c the house that I score at it ready to cave in, my hommie lives in the attick, he cant leave safely because he has warrants for his arrest and when we did go to meet his connect we got tailed and when I turned the corner he jumped outta tha car as I turned the corner and jumped out of the car at the corner and ran down the alley or hid in the bushes- anyway- by some act of God I didn't get pulled over that night (at 1:00 am). The place is hot, full of tweakers and dope fiends- lost my car in the confusion when i parked to go to his house- found out where the outdoor crack market is inadvertantly. My point is out side there are litteraly hundreds of homeless people- some with children in downtown San Diego, on the fringes of gentrification. Funny thing is as much as he has taken advantage of me and punked me he still tries to act like i owe him a favor. Maybe thats why all the people that used to come and buy from him (someone fronted him some tweak and I think he used more than he could pay back), all his "friends" seem to have disapeared. I think he has been jackin others so less and less people have been going through him so his issue has been dwindling. But The night before last was an all time low in the quantity I'd gotten from him. But he's a destitute middleman and user so thats what I expect.
Right now i gotta say this life aint worth it as enticing as the sweet fruits of the poppy are.
Sorry I know I'm all over the place with this post. You all ignore me- just need to vent and share my confusion- mixed feelings.
But anyway I had a feeling that episode was dodgy. Again cannabis being a drug of the working class and not cut across socioeconomic groups seemed ludicrous.
But yea, not mentioning gear or MDxx at he very least, or mephedrone seems to be a great ommision. The LA episode I think is fairly acurate. The Hawaii one is accurate, esp so far as methamphetamine (called Bhatu there, not as much called Ice) had a girl I work with from the Islands that confirmed this and I know the gear cost many times what it does on the mainland. Alaska- I know there is alot of coke and methamphetamine, but 3% of Anchorages population being addicted to smack- not sure how accurate. Wonder about New orleans and detroit- they seem to be an addicts paradise and hell. According to the detroit episode you can get good china white from Burma- and the drugs are cheap. Puerto Rico wouldn't be a huge suprise from people I know from there.
Congrats Pink!
I'm fucking up. Trying to be good. Got a hold of some methadone 10 mg pills. Hooked up dope the other day from my scandolous middleman. It was powder but paid $100 for a gram probaly more like .25- used to get 3g for $100 when I had a proper habit but have avoiding getting a proper connect to not get strung out- on my way though. Anyway, today I was jonesing, tempted but wanted to hold out. Then I get a txt from this dude- my middle man asking if I knew someone who wanted to buy a watch, I pad, or "I'm illing, can you help me out."
That just fired up my brain- I can get more, maybe negotiate a $50 piece this time. I txted the fuck- no, sorry, I can't hook you up.
My friend from work- the one from Hawaii is like a sister. Shes 4 months pregnant. We usually cool, but we were supposed to study last week. Drunk I told her I would have to stop by dickheads to hook up and then would take her to lunch. My wife has her phone number and was suspicious so when my wife called her, my friend B told my wife what I was up to- she used to smoke Bhatu but was legitimately concerned for me. My wife was pissed off, but then wanted a little piece of black- she is on only 1 mg sub, which is part of the reason she was pissed- no longer gets her high nor a blocking dose- but simmered down after I kicked her a little piece. But B added to my missery because my wife has been out of town so she has been comming over to check on me. She is actually a good friend but I would have to wait more than 6 hours on days I had dope to smoke until she left.
But anyway, thinking i had gone over a week without dope and had put it resolutely behind me she had a PCA syringe of dilaudid- 7.5 mgs left. She had to waste it- requires co-signiture in this country. In the med room she kept saying j- you want this, i'll let you have it. I was like - you ready to start a #20 IV in my AC- like 53 ml of volume. She's like yea grab me a kit. We were joking at first, but then it occured to me that she was testing my sicerity. Before disposing of it she was all "are you sure". I was like hell no, and B this aint cool your making me jones. She dumps it but was like "its been over a week (actually 1 day unbecknowest to her)- your so strong, I knew your done with this." Then she came and appologized to me latter. Being human this stoked the fire.
Anyway, I didn't score dope. I'm under my wife scrutiny who returns tommorow, B- who is a hot Hawaiian chick, but our relationship over the last year and a half has grown into a big brother-little sister- she knows alot about my history... but does not understand the life of an opiate enhusiasts though i have tried to explain it to her which she doesn't get.. now assuming a role of co-dependence... she does that kinda shit with her fiancee-tests his sincerity- I know because he has told me that and she has told me that so I hear both sides.
But bottom line- gotta stay clean. Just alittle
And I'll say ad nauseum- if i really want to get good cheap dope I'd make the hour drive to TJ. But I don't want to get strung out again. No way in hell I'd get away with crossing the border- would have a panick attack waiting an 1/2- 1 hour to cross over by foot, and would totally blow it waiting 1.5-2 hours to cross by car -get sent to secondary.
Shambles Council Estates/ UK social services are a great idea b/c the house that I score at it ready to cave in, my hommie lives in the attick, he cant leave safely because he has warrants for his arrest and when we did go to meet his connect we got tailed and when I turned the corner he jumped outta tha car as I turned the corner and jumped out of the car at the corner and ran down the alley or hid in the bushes- anyway- by some act of God I didn't get pulled over that night (at 1:00 am). The place is hot, full of tweakers and dope fiends- lost my car in the confusion when i parked to go to his house- found out where the outdoor crack market is inadvertantly. My point is out side there are litteraly hundreds of homeless people- some with children in downtown San Diego, on the fringes of gentrification. Funny thing is as much as he has taken advantage of me and punked me he still tries to act like i owe him a favor. Maybe thats why all the people that used to come and buy from him (someone fronted him some tweak and I think he used more than he could pay back), all his "friends" seem to have disapeared. I think he has been jackin others so less and less people have been going through him so his issue has been dwindling. But The night before last was an all time low in the quantity I'd gotten from him. But he's a destitute middleman and user so thats what I expect.
Right now i gotta say this life aint worth it as enticing as the sweet fruits of the poppy are.
Sorry I know I'm all over the place with this post. You all ignore me- just need to vent and share my confusion- mixed feelings.
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backroll
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cheers max and jspunim 2days 12 hours now so it's tolerable (thanks to my medication
but it's in the post as they say 
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I'm finding crack cocaine followed by weed and benzo to to helpful for hours and hours:D
im 2days 12 hours now so it's tolerable (thanks to my medication but it's in the post as they say EDIT:
I'm finding crack cocaine followed by weed and benzo to to helpful for hours and hours:D
Hey backroll. Coke theoretically would help kicking. The Euphoria is synergistic implying that cokes euphoria is partially mediated by the opiod system. I know alot of people that have gotten clean using shards (methamphetamine). In the 90s, I went on a road trip with my friend, Mattias, starting in San Francisco, going through quaint old towns time forgot in Northern California- up the Oregon Coast to Portland. Know it has a thriving dope scene- not so much then. We hooked up a 7 day supply in San Francisco and it lasted, shockingly 6 days. Even though we slept in his truck a few times- this was during december and the rain was comming down so hard it and the wind were shaking his truck. So we would smoke alittle extra to stay warm. Anyway, before leaving, my connect in San Francisco was also a tweaker so we got a bag of shards. We only indulged in that a in that a few times during the trip. One time we stoped at a bar in oregon- turned out it was a strip bar. It was in the sticks and run by bikers- anyway, the girls walked around nude- had liberal rules up there- the girls- a hot blond and brunette. They asked if we were from Portland and we said San Diego- that got them intrigued- they were used to loggers, ect... anyway they gave us free dances and were obviously tweaking from there mannerisms and one had tweaker jaw. I with my big mouth mentioned we had speed and invited them to the parking lot to go smoke- they were both hell yea! they were gonna take a break but were gonna stagger it to not be so obvious. Well the staggering was only 1 minute appart.
So we go to my friends truck and put the shards on foil. One of the girls said she had a pipe in her locker but we mutaully agreed it wasn;t wort the time. So after smoking some these girls were all over us. Blondy was naked under her coverup. So next thing we know there was a knock, really a bang on my side of the car's window. And a kick on the door. As ordered I opened the door and he pulled blondy out by the hair and yelled at her to get back to workThe other girl, her breast bare, jumped out and ran back in the bar. So big burley greasy biker grabs my shirt and says, "if you want to fuck these girls you gotta go through me first- or something like that- anyway, Those girls didn't seem like they were gonna charge us, they just wanted to party, might seem naive- but we were both at are prime. Anyway we got the fuck outta there and pulled over on some side street and smoked over 2 rations of dope. Then off to Portland- and the funny thing is we realy didn't know it was a strip bar and just stopped there for a couple of bears and to rest.
So we get to Portland. We toured the city and actually snowboarded down mount hood- although it was a short day, thats when we were still young enough to have habits and still do active sports surfing, boarding, ect...
Anyway, sore, we finished our dope after the mountain. Out of dope we took to the streets of Portland. From a local friend that Mattias new (who didn't use) we got an idea were the ghetto was. We asked around- finally one guy said he was clean- told him we were sick and he sympathized enough to point us in the right direction. There was a bar that alot of people would go to to meet hookups. There was even a sign saying that dope dealimg, talk, soliciting, ect won't be tolerated- always a promising sign. Anyway we ask this chick- then this black guy says he could get us a better deal- they were in each others face screaming, bar tender wasn't phased. So she finally goes with us- figured she was a chick- they sometimes less scandalous. So we give her money, she came back with crack- we said we wanted heroin. She goes, you wanted heroion... why didn't you say so? I can trade this back- before we could think and desperate- she was gone- and never came back. We had $40 of cash left decided rather than risk getting beat again, we would go back to the motel for the night and make the 9 hour drive to the City (San Francisco).
So we go to my friends truck and put the shards on foil. One of the girls said she had a pipe in her locker but we mutaully agreed it wasn;t wort the time. So after smoking some these girls were all over us. Blondy was naked under her coverup. So next thing we know there was a knock, really a bang on my side of the car's window. And a kick on the door. As ordered I opened the door and he pulled blondy out by the hair and yelled at her to get back to workThe other girl, her breast bare, jumped out and ran back in the bar. So big burley greasy biker grabs my shirt and says, "if you want to fuck these girls you gotta go through me first- or something like that- anyway, Those girls didn't seem like they were gonna charge us, they just wanted to party, might seem naive- but we were both at are prime. Anyway we got the fuck outta there and pulled over on some side street and smoked over 2 rations of dope. Then off to Portland- and the funny thing is we realy didn't know it was a strip bar and just stopped there for a couple of bears and to rest.
So we get to Portland. We toured the city and actually snowboarded down mount hood- although it was a short day, thats when we were still young enough to have habits and still do active sports surfing, boarding, ect...
Anyway, sore, we finished our dope after the mountain. Out of dope we took to the streets of Portland. From a local friend that Mattias new (who didn't use) we got an idea were the ghetto was. We asked around- finally one guy said he was clean- told him we were sick and he sympathized enough to point us in the right direction. There was a bar that alot of people would go to to meet hookups. There was even a sign saying that dope dealimg, talk, soliciting, ect won't be tolerated- always a promising sign. Anyway we ask this chick- then this black guy says he could get us a better deal- they were in each others face screaming, bar tender wasn't phased. So she finally goes with us- figured she was a chick- they sometimes less scandalous. So we give her money, she came back with crack- we said we wanted heroin. She goes, you wanted heroion... why didn't you say so? I can trade this back- before we could think and desperate- she was gone- and never came back. We had $40 of cash left decided rather than risk getting beat again, we would go back to the motel for the night and make the 9 hour drive to the City (San Francisco).
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Cont... So being really sick and drinking ourselves to barely any sleep we were driving back and me and m friend were in that lethargic weak but you cant sleep state. So I suggested why don't we smoke some tweak. I heard anecdotally it helped for kicking but was always skeptical. We smoked some shards and our symptoms improved dramatically. Problem was we felt good for 4 hours and then felt waay worse. Smoking the last of it made us feel slightly better but we were getting sicker and sicker, pulling over several times to puke and trully sick as dogs. I called Eric that morning, then 3 hours before the City. We finally got there but Eric was unreachable. Went by his house and mom didn't know were he was... had explained our situation but sometimes, being a tweaker as well as a dope fiend, he would go and pass out, sometimes for like 24 hours. He new the deal, how sick we were, so we hit the streets in the mission district. This was before I new there was a huge open air scene on one of the corners. When Eric was there it was a 5 minute wait for the connection... but it might have been tommorow till we hooked up. So we hit the main street in the district and saw a mexican with a designer cowboy hat, designer cowboy boots, and lots of gold talking on a cell phone- this had to be a connect. We asked him if he had chiva. No he said, our hearts sank with despair- but my friend does. Let me call him. The dude was there in 3 minutes- we copped a bunch of bags, and drove up to telegraph hill, which overlooks the city and got right- and thats one of the best feelings you can experience- hours of suffering replaced by heavenly peace. We stayed up there nodding hard for over an hour after that ordeal. Hooked up with the dude the next day and scored more which I got on a flight for LA were we were going to a dead show- and my firends, mostly chippers but my now girlfriend, her cousin, and my friend did. They were sick so i came back ladden with alot of dope and saved the day. At shows back then we would even get high at the show. Smoking in the bleachers and aside from the few odd stairs, no one would get phased. Dead shows were tolerant places.
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