Mental Health How the fuck could I even get stuck on DXM?

[lars90]

Well Ive told my story more than enough of this forum. Basicly took Ibuprofen 2 hours before DXM and drank allot of coffe before too. It didnt work right though only a first pletau high even though I took enough for a high second pletau high next day im still high 2 weeks later it slwly stopped and magicly happens again the same damn thing happend again without me even taking DXM or anytihing else! I finally stopped tripping after the next 4 weeks. But again 6th week something else that is extremly wierd happen I felt really wierd presusre in my head again exsacly 2 weeks later. After that I still noticed the damage and drowseyness a tiny bit but it was mostly gone...


So I always thought the Ibuprofen must have caused it nothing else could have. I never doubted it never! But no looking back its impossible its not logic. I just found out lots of people take IBuprobens when their high and nothing happens to them.


I dont fucking get it I didnt take any other meds or drugs that day but I still got stuck on DXM... I dont fucking get it? Does anybody have a Idea how the fuck this could have happend.

Sorry but you should understand why im pretty upset right now..

 

[tripnotyzm]

I have very little experience with dxm, but I do know that ibuprofen is a commonly used drug by people of all ages.
If i were to take a stab at it, I would say the dxm just isn't your friend. Ibuprofen should not cause you to have re-occuring trips like that.
Dxm is a very powerful substance and this is not the first time I have spoken to people regarding very extended after effects.
Its obvious that you should avoid drugs, at least until you have sorted this nightmare out.
Seeking some proper help from a doctor is always a good option too.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Don't take DXM; it isn't a drug meant to be taken in a high dosage.

 

[Abject]

C.H I don't understand what makes you say that, as far as OD'ing goes DXM is much safer than opiods, benzos, even alcohol.

Anyway I've got no idea why you're still worrying about why you tripped for so long lars, it has been damn near a year since this happened.
DXM is converted by CYP2D6, and though I've only tried GFJ and DPH once each, I didn't find the potentiation to be very strong.
I know for sure it wasn't the Ibuprofin, which I stated in your old DXM thread.

Could have been Psychosomatic.

 

[lars90]

C.H I don't understand what makes you say that, as far as OD'ing goes DXM is much safer than opiods, benzos, even alcohol.

Anyway I've got no idea why you're still worrying about why you tripped for so long lars, it has been damn near a year since this happened.
DXM is converted by CYP2D6, and though I've only tried GFJ and DPH once each, I didn't find the potentiation to be very strong.
I know for sure it wasn't the Ibuprofin, which I stated in your old DXM thread.

Could have been Psychosomatic.

The only diffence is for as far as we know. You can recover from heroin and benzos. And alcohol I can tell you on this one its way worse and addictve. Everyone says oh its just habit and craving froming its such a nice and plesant drug. SHUT up it not! Look at all these people who use it everyday and cant stop even after theyve been to rehab 4 times. Its just so diffrent from all the other drugs. It functions in a whole diffrent way... One theory which I belive is true states that it causes microbes in the brain little microscopic holes which would also explain why everythings totally normal for 2 weeks once you take it again.


But tell me more about what you mean with Pyschomatic please...


Captin.Heroin: I never took it in high doses only first and second pletaus...



tripnotyzm: I think im pretty much over it! Im just tring to find out why it happend and its hard not to think about it when I see the stupid snowy viuson all the fucking time! I am gonna go to a pychitran soon. I dont think hes gonna be able to do much about the snowy vison only the depressions.


Wow I feel anger right now huge anger. Like the feeling of xtc. Energy in my stomach... Its wierd...

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Captin.Heroin: I never took it in high doses only first and second pletaus...

That is a rather bizarre/unique reaction to the drug then. I'm not sure what else to say other than, like tripnotyzm said above, please go to a doctor. I think this is definitely a good thing to do in this case.

C.H I don't understand what makes you say that, as far as OD'ing goes DXM is much safer than opiods, benzos, even alcohol.

I wasn't trying to suggest other categories of drugs were safer than DXM. I just think that it's not a good dissociative drug to use. This isn't the right thread to discuss why either.

In general I suggest to people not to get into using dissociative drugs because some people have bad reactions to them, other people end up hurting themselves on them, it can also make people depressed after they use such drugs, and people may also become addicted to dissociative drugs - all of these things we try to encourage other people to avoid.

 

[lars90]

That is a rather bizarre/unique reaction to the drug then. I'm not sure what else to say other than, like tripnotyzm said above, please go to a doctor. I think this is definitely a good thing to do in this case.

I have athought in the back of my mind. MAO-hemmer + DXM is not a godd combination. Someone I know when though the same thing and he took nutmeg which activates MAO-hemmer receptors. I must have eaten something with it...

 

[Captain.Heroin]

I have athought in the back of my mind. MAO-hemmer + DXM is not a godd combination. Someone I know when though the same thing and he took nutmeg which activates MAO-hemmer receptors. I must have eaten something with it...

Can you see a doctor for free? I don't know if you're in Germany or the USA or elsewhere, but your location tag says Germany/USA.

 

[lars90]

Can you see a doctor for free? I don't know if you're in Germany or the USA or elsewhere, but your location tag says Germany/USA.

Germany the only problem is im not 18 yet... I told my mom that I wanted to see a pychitran and she said we would find one and she take me... Its just DXM isent a drug that allot of people use. See I dont even know if it is a mental or pychsical damage/state... No Idea.

 

[Captain.Heroin]

Germany the only problem is im not 18 yet... I told my mom that I wanted to see a pychitran and she said we would find one and she take me... Its just DXM isent a drug that allot of people use. See I dont even know if it is a mental or pychsical damage/state... No Idea.

It is possible you may be having flashbacks or have an acute form of HPPD? I'm not sure.

Best of luck with everything, I hope you get to see a doctor and hope everything works out for the best.

 

[lars90]

It is possible you may be having flashbacks or have an acute form of HPPD? I'm not sure.

Best of luck with everything, I hope you get to see a doctor and hope everything works out for the best.

Thank you

Might be it seemed to get worse after I tried LSD and XTC even though Ihardly felt anything... In the moment the moreI think of it the more I see it it seems to get worse.
Even though it shoulnd be their...

 

[guerrilla]

I wasn't trying to suggest other categories of drugs were safer than DXM. I just think that it's not a good dissociative drug to use. This isn't the right thread to discuss why either.

so why are you bringing it up then

In general I suggest to people not to get into using dissociative drugs because some people have bad reactions to them, other people end up hurting themselves on them, it can also make people depressed after they use such drugs, and people may also become addicted to dissociative drugs - all of these things we try to encourage other people to avoid.

i could replace "dissociative drugs" in the above with pretty much any other class of psychoactive drugs (e.g., stimulants, opiates, classic psychedelics, etc.) and the statement would still go through. frankly, i don't find your above statement very insightful.

people are gonna do drugs. DXM is gonna be an obvious choice for some due to its easy availability. there are numerous risks associated with DXM abuse. nevertheless, you can reduce those risks if following good HR practices. once again, nothing so special about DXM in this regard.

 

[Abject]

You wouldn't have eaten enough of anything to have an effect unless it was intentional, in which case, the possible outcome is hypertension (since DXM affects NET) or Serotonin Syndrome (since DXM affects SERT)
If it were either, you'd have known, and it would have cleared up when the DXM left your system (3-5 hour half life)

I can understand your second post C.H, it's just that saying a particular drug shouldn't be used in high doses is quite arbitrary, and as far as HR goes it would make more sense to put on emphasis on that with drugs that have more risks of lethal OD. DXM is an inherently dirty drug, and when I say dirty, I mean all of the receptors it affects in the brain. It's like taking a chemical piss on your brain with splashes going all over the place.
Anyway, lars, I would have thought after this stint you wouldn't have gone and done LSD and MDMA, but hey.
To be perfectly honest, the best thing you can do it look after your body and try to do as little drugs as possible. Look into nootropics if it will put you at ease, but imo it's that state of wellbeing that is key.
Just stop stressing, and look after yourself. Go to the GP/doctor if it'll make you feel better.
The brain is mighty resilient.

 

[Black Rabbit of Inle]

From reading all your posts it seems that you've either had an extremely rare reaction to DXM or have a very bad case of HPPD.

Dosing 2 days in a row is not a great idea as the effects can last up to 3 days after initial dose (IME). If you haven't already, go see a doctor about your situation (I notice you mention wanting to see a psychiatrist but I don't think that they will be any help with this issue). Finding out if there is a specialist with experience in HPPD would be your best bet.

 

[lars90]

You wouldn't have eaten enough of anything to have an effect unless it was intentional, in which case, the possible outcome is hypertension (since DXM affects NET) or Serotonin Syndrome (since DXM affects SERT)
If it were either, you'd have known, and it would have cleared up when the DXM left your system (3-5 hour half life)

I can understand your second post C.H, it's just that saying a particular drug shouldn't be used in high doses is quite arbitrary, and as far as HR goes it would make more sense to put on emphasis on that with drugs that have more risks of lethal OD. DXM is an inherently dirty drug, and when I say dirty, I mean all of the receptors it affects in the brain. It's like taking a chemical piss on your brain with splashes going all over the place.
Anyway, lars, I would have thought after this stint you wouldn't have gone and done LSD and MDMA, but hey.
To be perfectly honest, the best thing you can do it look after your body and try to do as little drugs as possible. Look into nootropics if it will put you at ease, but imo it's that state of wellbeing that is key.
Just stop stressing, and look after yourself. Go to the GP/doctor if it'll make you feel better.
The brain is mighty resilient.

I manly only took LSD and XTC because I alway wanted to know how those drugs were. Ive always wanted to have halluzinations that was my goal I started having wwith 11 (I know wtf). Its hard not to use drugs if you have had a major down and everyone who has been either addicted or has a history in using drugs and having downs will probably agree... Its not easy to just say no for the rest of your life. Just like a little STD that medicine can remove wont stop you from having sex after its gone... Or when you drink and the next day you have a major down wont stop you from drinking next week end or maybe next moth...

Their hast to be an explanation for this. I looked up which spices or "foods" stimulate the MAO-hemmer receptor.

Ayahuasca
(Harmin)

Muskatnuss
(Elemicin, Myristicin, Safrol)

Passionsblume
(Harmin)

Steppenraute
(Harmin)

Antidepressiva (Deprenyl, Iproniazid, Moclobemid, Selegilin, Tranylcypromin, Trifluoperazin)
Yage (Harmine)

I mean as I didnt do any of these unless someone mixed them under my food which is highly unlikley because no one knew I did DXM or would do something like that around me.
1 1/2 months before I did Nutmeg instead of DXM which I would have taken that week. One week after that I got horribly sick for 6 days I didnt feel like eating anything ether and just felt week. I dont think that that really belongs to gether though... I dont get it the only other people I know hwo had the same effekt ether mixed DXM with Nutmeg or with speed!

I didnt do anything though -_-

 

[lars90]

From reading all your posts it seems that you've either had an extremely rare reaction to DXM or have a very bad case of HPPD.

Dosing 2 days in a row is not a great idea as the effects can last up to 3 days after initial dose (IME). If you haven't already, go see a doctor about your situation (I notice you mention wanting to see a psychiatrist but I don't think that they will be any help with this issue). Finding out if there is a specialist with experience in HPPD would be your best bet.

Again between every dose of DXM I waited atleast 2 weeks! I never redosed next day. And even if their hundreds of addics out their that use DXM everyday and dont show that kind of reaktion... And the psychiatrist is only their to deal with the depressions...

 

[twotoomany]

Just like a little STD that will go away with time wont stop you from having sex... -_-

Dude. STD's will NOT go away on their own or with time. I know it's off topic, but you should know. If you ever suspect you have an STD go to the doctor!!!!

 

[lars90]

Dude. STD's will NOT go away on their own or with time. I know it's off topic, but you should know. If you ever suspect you have an STD go to the doctor!!!!

Sorry bout that edited it :D ...