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Stimulants Meth Overstim - Making It Easier

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blight12

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You know me i don't make "took to much help me posts" but i find myself in an unfortunate situation and hope to get some info for future use if or when needed since there is always the risk. I have researched to the best extent possible. Plus i need a distraction.

I am aware I am safe and dont need ER, I have researched OD symptoms in detail, but hope to my make the next 12 hours (yes its long, which is why you dont fukup your meth dose) easier.

I have some specific questions after some intro, if my symptoms are odd for overstim, please advise. Perhaps im being a bit paranoid, but you cant be to safe.

As im sure will always happen in the drug world, i got some meth and it proved to be stronger then usual, which i never thought even possible. But you cant never really on consistent potency dosages anyways.

My first dose felt like the first time i did meth, great, which is odd since in my experience increasing dosage or more potent product doesnt bring back the "magic" it just overstims you (at least in my experience tolerance seems to to represent like mdma magic loss that is not helped by dosage increase. Not sure if this is normal). Its definitely meth though no doubt.

Anyways my next 12 hour dose resulted in a sense of overstim, i think, and only because of the first dose. As meth always does, it confuses me since to much can feel like comedown, where it not for remembrance of dosage, i would be perpetually confused on how high i was.

For example, i now feel like i might be on a low dose mentally, mild positives and none of the mental weirdness, fast thought, focus etc that a lot of meth causes (but in experience overstim comes with a false sense of sobering up mentally), but physically i feel strange, a sense of impending anxiety, impending physical concern, i feel like im about to start getting breathless, but it never comes, its odd. Basically i sense wrongness physically but no clear symptoms i can mention that will live up to the feeling of physical discomfort.

I have the familiar flutter near my heart and also a sense of stomach and gut discomfort, like i just ate far to much, pressure, fullness, heaviness in my chest and gut, but my heart feels perhaps a tad faster then usual so it seems fine in that regard.

I feel sluggish, tired, like am an old man walking all crooked, but this is normal, its just more so. I have started sweating and feeling hot and occasionally it feels like i sweat something sharp and painful out of random places. But this is not seemingly like the burning skin like OD symptoms describe, but maybe the start.

The biggest confusion, besides all the other confusing signs that im NOT stimulated, is no normal vasoconstriction like is common with high doses, even when things are going well. Also i assumed the OD reported burning skin and pain was extreme vasocontriction but if my current pain here and there is is accurate, then its not vasoconstriction that causes th OD symptoms. My skin feels the beginning of a discomfort that is not from vasoconstriction. Its weird and unknown. Can somebody confirm if vasoC is the OD symptom cause?

No visual of other sensory disruption as with a high dose as is normal. Lastly i sense physicaly created false anxiety (as in not from the events) which is not normal for me on meth ever, even in usual overstim situations, which is why i like the stuff.

I am fighting the urge to redose since it feels like im coming down, but i wont since this has tricked me before, but you can see my confusion from the symptoms im sure but the dosage i took makes coming down impossible.

Anyways, to the questions:

1. How safe is alcohol to take the edge off now, since it usually does in lesser situations. Seriously, if its not advised but prob safe and likely calming then say so, its 12 hours for god sakes. If im going to die or something then i might not take it. No benzos.

2. Prob being paranoid, but some occasional sharp pains in my lower back are likely from sitting on it for 2 days or my gut, and not my kidneys most likely correct. Or rather dont guess, but tell me what other symptoms would register kidney distress. Im pissing fine and drinking lots of OJ.

3. I have Seroquel, which i take before coming down usually but i have this thing with Seroquel, i dont like to take it if something is weird or wrong. I have this feeling that Seroquel can make things worse of if something is wrong i could pass out and it could get worse while i sleep. Prob residual fear from the terror taking it during a comedown. Id rather wait out a overstim session then take seroquel for example. I hope my reasoning makes sense.

Should i just take it anyways. I do hate giving in though. I like to fight to the bitter end or take my punishment if necessary... Bah, just the stims speaking.

Ive been consistent for a few hours now so its not getting worse, its just something to wait out now, but you know me, i like to understand and improve things where possible.

Anyways, at the very least im thankful for the distraction of writing this post. I really wish overstim would represent as expected. A little but of distracting psychosis is better then this slow frustrating crawl of discomfort and impending worseness that never comes. I guess that's a good thing. Cheers.
 
After I had a long meth session (ROA oral.....at first) and then when getting that body ache for like 1 second and then I stretch and it's like I am a chiropractic genius.
And the first thought after that is redose. So the compulsory snorting a line larger than my oral dose (was such a waste), but I'll keep to the point.
Basically after about the 16 hour mark my body is telling me to just have a few hours rest and save a large amount for after my "LIE down".
And I get sucked into cyberspace and without taking any more at the 24 hour mark I'm feeling like I had redosed, but with the "fat free milk" version.

If you have seen The Salton Sea and the scene where Val Kilmer is sitting down and watches his beer bottle drop to the floor like "frame by frame" mode.
(this is me agreeing with your "slow frustrating crawl of discomfort and impending worseness that never comes" sensation.

Ok so that's the mild rant of memories gone by.

I'm gonna shoot from the hip here, I've read how much faith and confidence you have for Seroqual.
So take the medicine that you know will work if you need to.
Keep that little booster section that's sitting on the table next to your keyboard, (it's always a little no matter how much there is left) , for another time.

Or just forget about the science behind the way you feel or the confusion which isn't confusion, and just "be", (like V. Kilmer in that scene).
It is actually quite a peaceful feeling - probably cause you know there is that little section. Use that state of mind to surf the net and just veg out....if it gets too much take your seroqual.

The issue about the "kidney pain" you answered yourself as soon as you wrote it. (ie. sitting for 2 days).
The alcohol "cure" I think was just a "brain fart" of an idea, as I don't think you will go that route, it was just a passing thought(you can tell me if I am wrong).

I'll leave it there cause I think you have just caught on what this whole post of mine is about.

You're in that zone, and it ain't that bad, be Val Kilmer.

I apologize to all other bluelighters who are thinking "what the fuck is that mod saying?"
But Blight12 knows now, and that's what counts.

Be cool man, and don't look for answers where there are no questions.

Peace.
 
Haha yeah man, i get it, more then you, thanks :-)

Its difficult though. The same meth brain that insists on acting unpredictable like some sort of hallucinogen that always keeping you guessing makes you insist on consistency and demand some form expectation in regards to your experience at the same time.

Tweakers will know that if some shit challenges you or disrupts your idea of wtf is supposed you happen, it must be met head on and destroyed. Failure is not an option.

I like the meth brain ideals in concept, it strengthens character and demands meeting challenges head on. But it also makes you do stupid shit and take risks.

Meth makes you immortal after all? Its not like that actually, i realized its more that meth makes you expect and demand life gives you what you want from a situation and if it doesnt, you kick it in the balls and somehow the laws of reality will bend to your will to make it so. Such power! But its not real, alas. Another positive character trait to aspire to though for sure, that being, not being a pussy and accepting whats delivered to you.

Anyways, not to throw doubt on your feedback thats based on actual reality and logic but I drank some wiskey and i feel a ton better and i had some more meth and i feel better, big surprise, by that i mean to anybody not expecting a logical response.

Again meth proves to be beholden unto its own laws of logic and reality. Cure overstim with more meth, tried and tested twice now, reality be damned, WTF. Alcahol? Sounds like a bad idea but not on meth. The more chemicals the merrier it seems??? WTF. Im not deluded, just illustrating the potential delusion.

All lies for sure but elusive nonetheless. I would be liing if i didnt love the idea of unexpected mysteries and new discoveries awaiting me, good or bad. Like some new drug every time with new challenges, insanity and insights. Im not recommending it, just saying the bad things with this drug are what i might need at this time. You will not!

Being an unassuming geek from the suburbs with a life thats far to easy and boring as fuck with a need to process input constantly, meth gives me the challenge i need with a sense of uncertainty and risk necessary to provide further raw data to analyze and make use of.

Sounds like bull and delusion for sure, but if you have read my crazy posts you might know its insanity is in my element. I live and breath turning chaos and madness into something useful, for me at least, or at least something somewhat entertaining.

Lol, but im not that dumbass succumbing to the allures of the big bad stim, but rather the retired at 28 geek who -is/hopes- he is smart enough to try to see lessons and value in something, with the required caution, that most would write off a evil, bad or socially unacceptable or at least delivering ideas of no value leading only to destruction.

Again, im sure i made a crazy tweaker post last weekend that said everything is a tool, to be used and valued based on your understanding of it and its personal uses. Nothing is just black or white like we are told.

(^^ For example im not blind to meths delusions of grandeur, i just embrace it)

And with that said, as proof I am well again and able to spout random bullshit at will, i bid you all all farewell and thanks (especially to shreddedlettuce who always takes the time to help out).

Edit: And In all seriousness, whats the issue with alcohol in this regard? I need facts not opinions, no offence...
 
Anyways, not to throw doubt on your feedback thats based on actual reality and logic but I drank some wiskey and i feel a ton better and i had some more meth and i feel better, big surprise, by that i mean to anybody not expecting a logical response.

Foregone conclusion. See below for "the facts" not offence no opinion. (lol see what I did with those words).

But seriously. Some of you guys should skip this post as your heads might explode.


Edit: And In all seriousness, whats the issue with alcohol in this regard? I need facts not opinions, no offence...


I thought you would take the Seroqual before alcohol, but the little that you had next to your keyboard was obviously a little more than a little.
So what I should do is copy and paste my first post here then you can respond and I will learn more secrecies of your unplanned, planned one day early start to a normal weekend in the Life of Blight12 (not Pi).


EDIT: Oh forgot......the fucking birds start tweeting any minute now and that creates a change the minute you hear that first tweet...... it is a whole different world.
I take LRP petrol not rocket fuel, (LRP=Lead Replacement Petrol), so I'm gonna go to sleep now, have a good one and be safe.
 
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But seriously. Some of you guys should skip this post as your heads might explode.

Lol, i take that as a complement.

But in total seriousness and honesty, i sounded like i dick initially in my post. Instread of "Haha yeah man, i get it, more then you, thanks :-)" i meant to say "Haha yeah man, i get it, more then you know, thanks :-)", trying to indicate thanks and respect for the post. Fukin skipping words is the biggest issue with proper communication on meth.

Anyways, my biggest concern with my meth posts is indicating proper seriousness, non delusion, jokingness, respect when posting some wierd shit and no offense with my meth posts.

Its so easy sounding like a dick or insane when going with an interesting line of thought but i hope everybody knows the insanity, attitude or tone is not me, its just there as part of the content or to represent my point or at least my crazy thought pattern at the time as an accurate representation of the meth brain process or the stupid actions or ideas when high.

So again thanks shreddedlettuce, any deviation from advice is your typical meth brain at work lol, as i hoped to illustrate.

FFS getting high and reporting back to educate and save the future masses aint no easy job. A worthy sacrifice however!

Interestingly with the Seroquel, even though its far easier then the comedown, its really hard to accept and action When high, or even coming down or feeling shitty, you tend to value the status quo over everything else.

Even taking it and knowing sleep is coming, its hard to accept that sudden end or change to the situation. As if no matter what, staying high or fucked up must be better then sleeping. Its lame when considering the alternative, but i have remained coming down for 22 hours often (without the drug ending mind you!) to stave off the horrific end of sleep for as long as possible. FFS im a spoilt asshole.

Fortunately, i have prob 3 days more of this wierd strong meth in the form of large scary rocks ill need to deal with, and i intend on spending as much of it here on BL educating you all as possible with more posts.
 
I dont know how to reconcile this shit. It worked well, then overstimed me, then recovered me, now it wont do anything no matter the amount i put in my nose.

Well its doing something, but more a feeling of improved drukeness, but that could be the wiskey, but it improves on it somehow. I feel decent but not meth decent, like a silly less focused stimulation, but not coke or the usual. Even somewhat sleepy and hungry. Bad sings!

Im inclined to ask what else comes in crystal format. I thought perhaps MDMA but paxil makes me immune or at least know what happens when i used it (Disappointment)

Plus im not getting vasoconstriction, just a wierd uncomfortable sweat. I need the VasoC, never thought id say so, for the piece of mind it brings.

Plus my eyes seem slightly less dilated then they should be, even the one eye seems less interested then the other, but that might be paranoia, curses!

The only option left is to shovel this shit in until it does its job or makes its intention known! This inconsistency doesnt make sense since it started off as good meth, then to strong strong meth, now weak weird meth, what next!

Is it possible to add different drugs to a bag full of crystal that looks the same and somehow doses you separately? Im thinking that by using different sized crystals for each drug, you could influence which crystals fall out of the bag first due to weight and thus influence which drugs you use in which order! Sneaky but genius!

But that makes me wonder WTF is in the really big shard in the baggie thats about the size of half a cig filter. Some sort of bitter ending fate or wonderous finale! Due to size was it planned for first usage or was noticing it expected and thus its assumed to be used last due to extra admin crushing it down to size? And if the latter is the case, waiting to use it is probably personal preference meaning this must have all been planned for me specifically to ensure accurate results! Im not sure if this is a good thing or not!

How do i avoid being strung along cluelessly like a dead eyed puppet dancing happily toward some pre-planned sinister end!

Ill report back shortly, one way or the other, i will have my answers.
 
Yup, it is simple actually, you just want to feel like a king forever.
But I will close with some HR advice that you already know.
When it is over, it is over.
And chasing that "clarity" (others would call it a "high"), one feels between hours 5 to 13½ is a frivilous exercise.

It isn't that difficult to put the rest away (out of sight) for another time, and when you are able to do this you actually feel damn proud.
But believe me when I say 5 or more years down the line you are actually 5 years older and you won't believe how fast those years go by and how you aged 5 years in what feels like a month.

At least you aren't smoking it (I'm pretty sure about that, please God.). And honestly hope you grasp the seriousness about the whole "charade", let's say before June this year, cause there will be a point of no return and I'm glad I realised that, even though it took me nearly 6 years to accept it.

This isn't a "buzz kill" post, just the voice of reason.
 
^^ For sure. For all my pretentious ranting I have my few weak spots lol. I find leaving some remaining and coming down very difficult and that's without suffering comedown and needing relief. Meths hedonistic and logical justifications are very hard to resist.

I also hope I am brutally aware of the risks and weaknesses which i use to provide me a sense of comfort in its use. Full understanding removes the emotional element and allows improved logical response. Also why i joke around about it. Reducing the idea of overpowering danger and certain doom allows further improved management. I feel this contributes to my success or non escalation at least and i recommend it in my meth rants.

I prob obsess over the seriousness of it all more then most do though, but more from and angle akin to an invisible high school geek obsessing over how the scariest schoolyard bully might logically provide the most organic matter to maximize the amount of practice on dissection techniques. Or at least not being the victim.

Anyways it means accepting weaknesses like remaining product with increased dosage over the required timeframe to manage the risk in this case one far more acceptable then the other. And with all the risks compared of course. I find bull headed raging at resisting your weak spots doesnt work but rather avoiding them entirely does. Just takes some creative planning and its not running away, its being smart enough to rise above pride (or greatest enemy) and improve your options.

Anyways, yeah i only snort or do oral. The drug as crystal is so strong in fact that have ranted truthfully about wishing it was weaker. The idea of improved ROA is crazy since i cant even get through a few weeks without overstiming myself again with only oral lol. Im sure this ROA limitation also contributes to some success.

Lastly prob from pure luck, my increased dosages ensures an experience thats great but utterly impossible to find any kind of functional usefulness from it which is great since this would by my greatest weakness since function, improvement and my business is my real and only true drug and addiction, and i find the idea and the few glimpses of real performance enhancement and improved thought utterly fucking irresistible. Meth jives well with being a marketing hitman and doing battle with creative ideas as your weapon. I almost wish it was functional for daily use. I would be unstoppable lol, or so it would say whispering endless promises in your ear.

So yeah, functional meth use would pwn me as im sure it does to many others. I can offer no help in this regard. Arguing with the perception of improved performance in life is a battle for stronger men to take on, those who dont mind taking on logic and common sense. Anyways thats where all my rants on "mental competitive advantages" come from. It works though.

The biggest challenge will come when deciding to stop weekend use. I will need to come up with a logical reason why and not something weak like things you accept as a given just being in the drug game in general, like "Its bad for you". Im open to suggestions.

Lastly, don't believe my bull but i really hope people think about their usage and all lifes challenges to this extent. Simply being strong, believing in lies like hard work and perseverance or thinking advanced planning and thought of improved control and a middle ground is some sort of delusion for the weak willed who cant stop completely, is not working so well these days.

Remember drug addiction is a logical battle and not a chemical or physical one. Ok I just made that up now but it sounds cool so it will conclude things nicely...
 
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