Adderall frequency and tolerance

[Nitrogen]

So I'm kind of a noob when it comes to amphetamines, and with my new 30mg Adderall XR script, I'm trying to figure out exactly how it works best for me. My question is how often can I take this and not build a tolerance to achieve that intense mental energy and the euphoria that goes with it? Is my timing good?

I got a 20mg Adderall XR scipt at the beginning of December and used it 4-5 days a week for about 2 weeks. I'm normally the calm and quiet type of guy, but I noticed it definitely made me much more quiet than usual, depressed, and overall just sluggish. I decided to quit and didn't touch Adderall for 3 weeks until I got my 30mg script. So for the past month I've been taking one 30mg XR a week and call it my "Adderall day." I've been spacing out taking it 6-8 days.

"Adderall day" for the past month:
Week 1 - mental energy, not social or euphoric
Week 2 - lots of mental energy, very social and a decent euphoria
Week 3 - lots of mental energy, very social and very euphoric (also these effects except the euphoria seemed to last all day for me and I had no crash)
Week 4 (today) - lots of mental energy, social and euphoric with a strong crash that has me quiet and tired

So today was a huge disappointment... lol

So am I taking the 30mg too often and starting to build a tolerance, or would you say I just had a bad day? If I am building a tolerance and am taking it too frequently, what would you say generally works?

Thanks.

 

[Crashing]

Once a week is not too often, no. You can't build a noticeable tolerance using once a week for 4 weeks as im sure others will agree. What can happen though is psychologically going into the experience you can alter the effects. There are so many variables that play into how the drug is gonna effect you on a given day. Psychological state, what you were thinking about the night before, rest, diet... everyone's different and no one day is the same whether you're on drugs or not.

 

[laCster]

If I had a penny for thread like this, I'd be rich! Lol

Dude, you its your tolerance. I think you know that, but I think your in denial. You have too high tolerance for addy to get high

 

[Nitrogen]

I agree with psychological state affecting the drug. I've noticed while on the 20mg that whatever mood I was in, it seemed to be intensified by the drug, which could be a good thing or a bad thing for me.

As far as diet, I'm not sure I understand completely how eating affects the drug. Would eating healthy potentiate the effects? When I eat a small amount of food while on the drug, it seems to weaken any crash I have. Also I've noticed better results when I take it about 2 hours after eating a good meal. Should I consider these observations, or is it all just in my head?

 

[Crashing]

If I had a penny for thread like this, I'd be rich! Lol

Dude, you its your tolerance. I think you know that, but I think your in denial. You have too high tolerance for addy to get high

??? He takes it once every 6 to 8 days... And he did get high, he just noticed the crash all of a sudden.

Eating affects everything, not just drug use. If you aren't nourished enough to make it through the day, then adding a stimulant on top of that will cause a shitty crash. You should always eat well when using anything.

 

[Toz]

With street amp I tend to need to take like 25% more every day at least, sometimes 50% just to get the same high, after day 2 however it's more tweaked out and less high no matter how big the dose.

Or i don't know actually, just seem to fail at dosing lately, it's either not enough or too much >_<

 

[Nitrogen]

Hahaha well I'm definitely not taking amp everyday like that, and I don't plan on messing with street amp. I like the idea of having one day of the week to take adderall. It's just something to look forward to each week (except for that crash, holy shit I hate it).

 

[hatrix]

If I had a penny for thread like this, I'd be rich! Lol

Dude, you its your tolerance. I think you know that, but I think your in denial. You have too high tolerance for addy to get high

laCster you're too high. Go to sleep lol

You definitely haven't built up much of a tolerance Nitrogen. Your use is very infrequent. I imagine you could continue use like that for a while before noticing any big tolerance issues. I know I used 40mg of Adderall XR crushed and plugged for like 4 days in a row with pretty much equal effects each time.

You'll build a tolerance eventually, especially if you start using more often. But it's easy to regulate amphetamine tolerance compared to other drugs. Take magnesium supplements, vitamins, eat a good meal and then make sure to get some sleep every night. It'll keep any tolerance you might build at minimal and make sure you avoid any neurotoxicity and stay rather healthy.

That's for recreational use of course. If you want to take it therapeutically for the reason you're prescribed, do exactly what you're prescription says.

For the crash Nitrogen, I recommend you get a hold of some benzos, xanax (alprazolam) specifically. Any benzo really will do however. They are a godsend for stimulant comedowns. Instead of a comedown full of anxiety and restlessness, you'll feel relaxed and be able to fall asleep with ease. It usually adds some euphoria too, especially if some cannabis is smoked after the xanax hits you. Just try not to smoke to much if you're prone to anxiety from it. Then you'll just need more xanax.

Also, possibly consider other ROAs. I always plug my adderall. You could probably half your usual oral dose and take it plugged to achieve the same high. Comes on within 15 minutes at most and can sometimes last longer.

 

[Crashing]

Why don't you try emptying half of a 30mg pill out and taking roughly 15mg next time for your adderall day. That'll be a lot less harsh of a crash.

 

[bronson]

I agree with the general consensus here, some classes of drugs, amphetamine based stimulants for example have very pronounced different experience each time you take them when spaced out with no tolerance. Many factors such as your mood, level of rest, and diet play a role.

Other classes of drugs, say opiates for example have this phenomenon to a much lesser extent. They more or less always act the same for you if your tolerance is the same. (This by the way is just a comparison, not anything suggesting you start looking to other drugs!)

I think what you're doing with your dosing is wise and responsible, just make a point to go into that day well rested and whatnot to start if that's at all possible. You should experience the effects you are looking for.

 

[Nitrogen]

I agree with the general consensus here, some classes of drugs, amphetamine based stimulants for example have very pronounced different experience each time you take them when spaced out with no tolerance. Many factors such as your mood, level of rest, and diet play a role.

Other classes of drugs, say opiates for example have this phenomenon to a much lesser extent. They more or less always act the same for you if your tolerance is the same. (This by the way is just a comparison, not anything suggesting you start looking to other drugs!)

I think what you're doing with your dosing is wise and responsible, just make a point to go into that day well rested and whatnot to start if that's at all possible. You should experience the effects you are looking for.

Yeah, I was going to actually take my addy yesterday, but I started feeling sick and my stomach felt like absolute shit so I didn't risk it.

Also I'm sure this has been asked before, but is there anyway I could ever get back my first experience with a stim? The first stim I took was 50mg of Vyvanse and I remember I was with some friends on a bus ride to a big city for a party. I remember my mind began racing a million miles an hour to the point where I got pissed off if I wasn't doing something, my judgment and perception was heightened, I could memorize a phone book if I wanted to, and everything just seemed to become clear to me. I also remember texting a friend and stopping for a sec to get a tear out of my eye because I felt so happy for absolutely no reason. For the first time I felt like socializing with new people I had never met, and everyone I met that night fell in love with my vyvanse personality.

Any way I could ever get THAT back?

 

[bronson]

It's highly unlikely, and chasing a high like that is exactly what puts many people on a saddening downward spiral. Do yourself a favor, and don't go looking for that, as you'll find something entirely different and nasty.

 

[Crashing]

Yeah again nitrogen, you have to realize that there were many factors at play that time when you took 50mg Vyvanse. It's like you're attributing the whole experience to the drug alone, and that can get you into trouble.

 

[Nitrogen]

Ah darn, I'd love to have that experience again, but I won't chase what I can't get I suppose.

So anyway, just basically keep dosing what I'm dosing right now, eat well, get plenty of rest, try and take it only on good days, and just be responsible with it. Basically live a healthy life which I'm already doing.

Also as for the crash, I'm not so sure about the xanax. I took xanax once and it took me a a great mood to a paranoid and pissed off one. As for the weed, holy shit, I can only imagine what it's like to have an amp and weed euphoria at the same time, but a few friends of mine have done this before and had a pretty bad experience.

 

[laCster]

Lol I'm sorry I was high

 

[hatrix]

Ah darn, I'd love to have that experience again, but I won't chase what I can't get I suppose.

So anyway, just basically keep dosing what I'm dosing right now, eat well, get plenty of rest, try and take it only on good days, and just be responsible with it. Basically live a healthy life which I'm already doing.

Also as for the crash, I'm not so sure about the xanax. I took xanax once and it took me a a great mood to a paranoid and pissed off one. As for the weed, holy shit, I can only imagine what it's like to have an amp and weed euphoria at the same time, but a few friends of mine have done this before and had a pretty bad experience.

Don't knock the xanax until you try it for a comedown. It will completely negate the comedown, trust me. Weed on the other hand seems to make me tweaky as fuck if i smoke a bunch when I'm coming down.

 

[bluerthanmidnight]

Don't knock the xanax until you try it for a comedown. It will completely negate the comedown, trust me. Weed on the other hand seems to make me tweaky as fuck if i smoke a bunch when I'm coming down.

Amen, amen. Rescues me from whatever post-drug use doldrums are being hurdled at me. And if they just suck too much I take a few more xanx (pronounced "zanks", in case you were curious about the pet names I give my drugs) and drift off into peaceful benzo-sleep.

 

[bronson]

Just note that taking benzos on a semi regular basis no matter the reason is going to likely build an addiction to those as well. While okay for an occasional comedown, avoid always looking here for answers, or you'll end up with a nasty addiction that's pure hell to get rid of.

If you need to use a second drug to counter the effects of the first, chances are you're just overdoing it in the first place.

 

[hatrix]

If you need to use a second drug to counter the effects of the first, chances are you're just overdoing it in the first place.

I would only only agree with that statement in certain cases. I could go 3 months without a stimulant or ANY drug and then take a 20mg dose of adderall, shit even 10mg, and experience anxiety on the comedown that leaves me unable to sleep for 12 hours.

Taking 1-2mg of xanax will have me able to sleep in about 30 minutes.