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Why so much defense for MDMA

That's a well thought out mature reply, severly etarded. You really do your nickname justice :)
 
dezz said:
That's a well thought out mature reply, severly etarded. You really do your nickname justice :)
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Likewise to every post you've made here. You sound like a complete dipshit who can't handle mentally expansive substances :)

Stick to alcohol man. This is a harm reduction forum, you say you can't handle psychadelics, I say stay away from them. You seem to regard alcohol highly, so stick to it bro. Don't want you to fuck up your already weak mind.
 
severely etarded said:
Likewise to every post you've made here. You sound like a complete dipshit who can't handle mentally expansive substances :)

Stick to alcohol man. This is a harm reduction forum, you say you can't handle psychadelics, I say stay away from them. You seem to regard alcohol highly, so stick to it bro. Don't want you to fuck up your already weak mind.
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I can handle psychedelics fine. I just don't stick my head in the sand when someone bring up the fact that it CAN bring out some nasty shit in SOME people. People like you give drugs a bad name, go deny every damn negative fact about any drug, you're just making yourself look stupid.
 
^ He proves my point exactly.

People bum psychedelics too hard - like they can never do any wrong.. They can, and they do.
 
dezz said:
I can handle psychedelics fine. I just don't stick my head in the sand when someone bring up the fact that it CAN bring out some nasty shit in SOME people. People like you give drugs a bad name, go deny every damn negative fact about any drug, you're just making yourself look stupid.
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Where have I denied drugs have negative effects? It's people like you who abuse the shit out of them wrecklessly and fiend for pure MDMA like crack cocaine who think drug laws somehow curb this :? who give drugs a bad name, brah.
 
^ Have you never abused drugs? Have you never abused MDMA?

And yeah fair say.. I completely disagree with his view on drug laws ;)

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I "fiend" for pure MDMA like crack cocaine. Are you pulling that out of your ass? Don't make up stuff about me and leave my lifestyle out of it. And yes, if MDMA is completely legal and on par with alcohol acceptance wise culturally I believe a lot of people wouldn't moderate their use, and a fair share of people would dig themselves deeper and deeper into negative side-effects. Most teens can't handle their alcohol properly, and it's been legal for a very long time now, the same will happen if MDMA would be legal like that, and the consequences would be much worse.
 
dezz said:
I "fiend" for pure MDMA like crack cocaine. Are you pulling that out of your ass? Don't make up stuff about me and leave my lifestyle out of it. And yes, if MDMA is completely legal and on par with alcohol acceptance wise culturally I believe a lot of people wouldn't moderate their use, and a fair share of people would dig themselves deeper and deeper into negative side-effects. Most teens can't handle their alcohol properly, and it's been legal for a very long time now, the same will happen if MDMA would be legal like that, and the consequences would be much worse.
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Again, alcohol is pretty bad bro. I live in a reality where the war on drugs causes more harm than the actual drugs. Where teenagers get sold anything they want, but is not always what they think, slimy people make $ from it, and their "X" pills are loaded with methamphetamine.

Btw teenagers shouldn't drugs. Period
 
It still isn't a reason to make MDMA full on legal. And most of the people who take x are teens, people around 18-25. I agree with you that the "war on drugs" is pretty ridiculous though. No law should get in the way of properly informing those who seek information. I live in holland so I don't really have to deal that much with contaminants and the "just say no" stance.
 
I'm going to need to start reporting some people for infractions if you guys don't learn to play nice. From a moderator too! Every point made in this thread can be made without any personal attack, so do it.



MDMA can be safe. MDMA can be damaging.


I'm glad we figured this out.. :\
 
F1n1shed said:
"I am a firm believer that MDMA, used properly, may have the potential to help people re-spark those old series of neuro-pathways that once allowed us to be so happy on such a regular basis; to the point where we didn't even have the ability to percieve depression because it didn't even seem possible.

Now.. it's our responsibility after the fact to help ourselves keep those same pathways active and make them stronger and stronger after they are "woken up".. but if MDMA can help us turn them back on, then I think it is foolish to not at least consider it as a viable option."
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by ijustlovewikidrs

I remember us having a little debate before. Let me try to explain to you why your theory is flawed. Yes when you are rolling on MDMA you have all the joy and happiness in the world, seems like this is the answer you have always been looking for. And you often make promises to your self right? Why was i so upset with my self, i'm never going to be sad again i love everyone / everything. You feel like a little kid again, gaining enjoyment from every little thing .
But then you wake up the next day, or 2 days later when its suicide Tuesday. Do you really feel any sort of those feelings you were feeling the night before. Are you still motivated to be on top of the world, and love everyone you see in the street? The answer is no, it was all a false promise to your self in the moment when your brain was releasing all sorts of chemicals.

People may re-spark those old series of pathways that allowed them to love life so much, but that is only while rolling. I don't see how releasing most of your serotonin / dopamine and everything else all in one night allows you to gain a better enjoyment in life for the following days / weeks. It just doesn't make sense, you will be left with a lower level of happiness than before. This is all science
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I'm not against people 7, but when people look for a hard neurotoxic stimulant to re spark their happiness for the long term it will only end in misery. (Now i prepare to be flamed :o )[/QUOTE]

Hahaha no I remember our "spat" as well. In this instance you are correct. I do tend to think idilically when speaking about neurology. In my defense - of course people have the post-roll depression. My point is, as in my case, just being reminded that it's possible to feel happy was enough to motivate me to pursue the thongs that lead to that. Yes the initial feeling was false and synthetic - but whatever. I was so depressed on the daily that the comedian was nothing because I felt worse than that normally. Unless you're determined to fight depression. Chemically it may be better to try something like MDMA to at least remember what happiness feels like. Yes it is actually euphoria and flight-of-idea, but for me it was enough.

Same argument could be made for a slew of other drugs.. I just clearly love MDMA.
 
i for one would like to see more come out of the treatment of ptsd with mdma esp with the soldiers that are coming back from the wars. i have a buddy who was over there and he has shown signs of it. I might pull up some articles that have been done and show him there have been some really good results.. the gov needs to address this. esp with the amount of soldiers that have been committing suicide.
 
i would rather see less idiots fighting in wars tbph. who the fuck willingly signs up to play soldier arent there video games for that?
the gov needs to address this. esp with the amount of soldiers that have been committing suicide.
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do you honestly think governments give a fuck about their soldiers? soldiers are disposable they are target practice fodder for toys/weapons. governments couldnt give a fuck if soldiers come back and commit suicide, they actually prefer that because it will be at no expense to them to have to pay for meds and a hospital bed / compensation salary.

government giving a fuck about soldiers commiting suicide thatll be the day..
 
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