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CE&P social thread: why do the people I disagree with hate freedom so much?

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For a right wing religious news outlet CSM is actually not that bad. They cover their angle with a dose of relatively good journalism. Just stay away from the op-eds.
 
Glad we're on the same page then. They (like al jazeera) scare away a big audience with their name while actually being decent journalism.
 
You missed the debate Rach had with me over CSM, when he didn't realize that CSM was actually a very notable source of news.
lol like for real? he not know dat? heh silly rach is totally clueless amirite?
/i had to google to see what csm was, too, and made a point not to log/remember what i'd found so will probably not know the next time one of you drops the acronym..
 
For a right wing religious news outlet CSM is actually not that bad. They cover their angle with a dose of relatively good journalism. Just stay away from the op-eds.
i tend to agree. in my experience, most people who roll their eyes when you mention csm as a source have absolutely no idea about it and are just making an assumption based on the name...

alasdair
 
it's cute how mfr sees himself as a vanguard of sorts. i picture a ~18-22y/o, overweight caucasian kid living with family/parents, riding the line of sanity as his fingers slam the keyboard, mouth-froth dribbling down his chin.
go back to youtube where you belong lol
/and don't worry about 'immortalizing' my posts - ROFL! keep fighting the good fight, mfr, when you die you'll know you made a difference.


Why don't you hop on that facebook link and try to talk some shit to me? That's what I got it for, but instead I get all these great compliments from fans on there!

I don't see what the problem is about using the internet for advocating political ideas. You can talk about anything on here, why not politics too? Sure, it's good to get out in person and do some real good, but one must play that politcal game carefully. On here though, I don't have too much to worry about. I get to lay out ideas raw.

I get ot have exchanges with real people and real people read my ideas and I get to read theirs, completely unfettered by ramifications of having to discolse your identity. The internet may not be so great for dating and college, but it was made for frank political discussion! I really fail to see yours and MrGrunges's logic when it comes to insulting me as an internet warrior. What are you guys doing on here all the time then?

Does this have something to do with being afraid to get in a fist fight or something? Hell, Republicans back down from my outta shape 5'9" ass all the time in real life. I don't get into fights with democrats over politics often. When I do it's over things like shady sacks of weed, but Republicans are shady too like that.

There is however, one person on here I wouldn't want to fight, and that's the Steroid Discussion Mod Guido. He's full of steroids and does no less than 215 ab reps per day!
 
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Wow what a lame move lol. What I said was clearly sarcastic. There is a difference b/t sarcasm and being genuinely racist.

You changed your avatar to Nathan Bedford Forrest, and that's the guy who founded the Ku Klux Klan. Yeah...that's pretty racist. Forrest was a brilliant little terrorist though - he really knew how to cowardly slink around at night and cause some real trouble. On one hand, it is okay to venerate the old south, but on the other hand, they really needed to accept the fact that keeping blacks enslaved wasn't cool and that they could have honorably taken the severe assbeating that Sherman and Grant dished out to us and went ahead and rebuilt a new South that wasn't based on severe inequality and inhumanity. But, no, too many decided to delay progress for another hundred years. The Civil Rights bill that was forced through in 1964 was the best thing that ever happened to the South. There's real prosperity there now.

Whenever you have an extremely privatized economy like that n the old South, you end up with extreme poverty all over the place. Some socialistic policies really turned that backward place around.

But C'mon...I'm tired of this right-wing charade. Lots of you guys are still pretty fucking racist and are terrified of losing the white majority. Remember, Gen. Forrest had no qualms about attacking women and children and that makes him go down as a real piece of shit. Sarcastic or not, I believe in your freedom to use such an avatar, but don't expect it to go over so well.

Because of things like racism and greed, we've had to throw the baby out with the bathwater when it came to change in America. It sucks we can't remember our own past.
 
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You changed your avatar to Nathan Bedford Forrest, and that's the guy who founded the Ku Klux Klan. Yeah...that's pretty racist. Forrest was a brilliant little terrorist though - he really knew how to cowardly slink around at night and cause some real trouble. On one hand, it is okay to venerate the old south, but on the other hand, they really needed to accept the fact that keeping blacks enslaved wasn't cool and that they could have honorably taken the severe assbeating that Sherman and Grant dished out to us and went ahead and rebuilt a new South that wasn't based on severe inequality and inhumanity. But, no, too many decided to delay progress for another hundred years. The Civil Rights bill that was forced through in 1964 was the best thing that ever happened to the South. There's real prosperity there now.

Whenever you have an extremely privatized economy like that n the old South, you end up with extreme poverty all over the place. Some socialistic policies really turned that backward place around.

But C'mon...I'm tired of this right-wing charade. Lots of you guys are still pretty fucking racist and are terrified of losing the white majority. Remember, Gen. Forrest had no qualms about attacking women and children and that makes him go down as a real piece of shit. Sarcastic or not, I believe in your freedom to use such an avatar, but don't expect it to go over so well.

Because of things like racism and greed, we've had to throw the baby out with the bathwater when it came to change in America. It sucks we can't remember our own past.

Should I change my avatar to Robert? He was a democrat

220px-Robert_Byrd_official_portrait.jpg
 
The internet may not be so great for dating and college, but it was made for frank political discussion!
Heres something we can definitely agree on.

One thing I hate about facebook is how judgmental everyone is on it because they actually know you. Like I said before I grew up in a christian household/community so my family and childhood friends/acquaintances would probably be horrified to hear half of the stuff I talk about on BL. It makes me very conscious of everything I say on FB.

I like BL because I can pretty much say whatever the fuck I want without having people in my life judging me for it. In a way BL'ers know my real opinion more than people I know in real life.
 
The internet is actually a really great resource for dating (as far as meeting people goes). College, not so much.

Congrats on your academic success, Care! Also L2R!
 
Should I change my avatar to Robert? He was a democrat

220px-Robert_Byrd_official_portrait.jpg
"I know now I was wrong. Intolerance had no place in America. I apologized a thousand times . . . and I don't mind apologizing over and over again. I can't erase what happened."
- Robert C. Byrd
Well, at least he changed and regretted his ways, and he went on to do many great things in spite of Republican and right-wing greed to help disadvantaged people.

Many right-wingers may talk the good talk about defending the constitution now that a half-black, half-white democrat is in office, but they had very little to say when Gerge W. Bush shredded the living fuck out of it with his PATRIOT USA Act and his gross modifications that stripped war powers away from congress and the states and the people and concentrated it into his little Neocon circle.

Robert C. Byrd was one of the few (the rest were also liberals) who stood up against these serious destructions of the US Constitution during Bush, and he even successfully challenged Clinton's line item veto powers.. He also had the sense to stand up against the profound corporate and personal greed from both the right and the left.

There is a huge difference between him and Nathan Forrest. Byrd was a good man who redeemed himself far and above his past errors. I certainly have a history of making lots of bad racial remarks myself, but I always realized that it is not fair to judge someone by race or ethnicity. Even though liberals can take this race card too far, and likewise right wingers don't hesitate to use it either when it serves them (such as detracting from Byrd), it is important to understand the simple reality of sharing this country with other people of non-European ancestry and even coming to appreciate and admire them for their abilities and exotic looks.

Although I uphold your freedm to choose whatever avatar you like, I would be honored for you to change it to Robert C. Byrd. He was my state senator for many years.
 
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Heres something we can definitely agree on.

One thing I hate about facebook is how judgmental everyone is on it because they actually know you. Like I said before I grew up in a christian household/community so my family and childhood friends/acquaintances would probably be horrified to hear half of the stuff I talk about on BL. It makes me very conscious of everything I say on FB.

I like BL because I can pretty much say whatever the fuck I want without having people in my life judging me for it. In a way BL'ers know my real opinion more than people I know in real life.

Yeah, everybody is highly dramatic on facebook. I highly recommend making a fake one though! I really had lots of fun before Mitt Romney's FB page disabled thumbnail popups of photo links. A man like you may go on to do great things...you certainlly don't need some "too honest" opinions posted on facebook coming back to haunt you, nor do I need the daily drama of someone never talking to me again cause I said something like "Fuck the Troops" and "911 was an inside job" haha.
 
Well, at least he changed and regretted his ways, and he went on to do many great things in spite of Republican and right-wing greed to help disadvantaged people.

Many right-wingers may talk the good talk about defending the constitution now that a half-black, half-white democrat is in office, but they had very little to say when Gerge W. Bush shredded the living fuck out of it with his PATRIOT USA Act and his gross modifications that stripped war powers away from congress and the states and the people and concentrated it into his little Neocon circle.

Robert C. Byrd was one of the few (the rest were also liberals) who stood up against these serious destructions of the US Constitution during Bush, and he even successfully challenged Clinton's line item veto powers.. He also had the sense to stand up against the profound corporate and personal greed from both the right and the left.

There is a huge difference between him and Nathan Forrest. Byrd was a good man who redeemed himself far and above his past errors. I certainly have a history of making lots of bad racial remarks myself, but I always realized that it is not fair to judge someone by race or ethnicity. Even though liberals can take this race card too far, and likewise right wingers don't hesitate to use it either when it serves them (such as detracting from Byrd), it is important to understand the simple reality of sharing this country with other people of non-European ancestry and even coming to appreciate and admire them for their abilities and exotic looks.

Although I uphold your freedm to choose whatever avatar you like, I would be honored for you to change it to Robert C. Byrd. He was my state senator for many years.

Did he have any other choice then to say what he said to stay in politics? The truth is he was a democrat klansman racist in the senate.
 
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