i never compliment girls

[B1tO'RoughJack]

Yo I'm pointing out a science and WHO these things work on, not saying I use them myself - it's abhorrent animal behaviour, and manipulative yes!

Human beings should be able to rise above this type o ting - be real with each other, bbut this is a way to deal with each other on an animal, basic level. Some people feel they need it as a place to start. It's much more worth while to learn body language though in my opinion - that's not manipulation, that's just becoming moore aware, whereas the above techniques shouldn't be shared I reckon.

This is another thread that makes me shake my head in wonder a little bit. I mean, whatever happened to genuine human relations? B1tO'RoughJack, you know I usually agree with you, but fuck the idea of bringing up something negative about a person to "take them down a peg" or throw them off in some way. IMO that is manipulation in its worst form, you will never win in any sort of relationship by making your prospective partner less sure of themselves.

Hell, if you find something that you truly appreciate in a person, then compliment them. If not, then keep your mouth shut. Most PEOPLE ( not just women) appreciate a genuine compliment, whatever it is. No need to overthink, eg complimenting a pretty girl on her brains and vice versa. Compliments should be genuine, spontaneous and freely given. I tell strangers all the time that I admire their hair, outfit, jewelry, handbag, attitude, etc. It comes from the heart.

Why would any guy even think that it was "gay" to compliment a women on an aspect of her appearance? We appreciate it if it is genuine and not creepy or obviously planned ahead of time. That was what first turned my head towards my husband. I met him in a bar...I walked by while he was playing a game of darts and as I walked past he said, "hey, nice necklace". Much more effective than if he said "hey, nice tits" but either one would have been okay since they were heartfelt. The necklace comment did work, 15 years later.

The nice necklace one - yeah said that so many times - it's about tact - nice tits works for some, but only less evolved characters from my experience.

The sounding gay thing - us men see women complimenting each other's nails, makeup, hair, shoes, dress etc, and we see our role models commenting on eyes, legs, lips, and other parts. It takes a while, until we're confident to realize that we will get places if we just compliment, period.

So that's what I do - negs are for manipulative scumbags with low self esteem. End of. Compliments are THE WAY

 

[llama112]

I can't even argue anymore. Negs work for people with low self esteem. Negs will end up with controlling and possibly abusive relationships. That's all.

So that's what I do - negs are for manipulative scumbags with low self esteem. End of. Compliments are THE WAY

Agreed.

 

[RobotRipping]

^this hasn't happened in practice and reality, and i doubt you bothered reading the body of literature that accompanies game theory, you're just making assumptions. I agree this isn't the place for this argument, just keep an open mind.

@rangrz: game theory has evolved from early conceptions in the 40s and has been kept going through several works in pop culture, it's origination most will agree was that scene in a beautiful mind (film) where the guy hits on the least attractive girl rather than going for the most attractive. So they are vaguely similar for that reason. And from there it went, the film the tao of steve also brought in cat string theory, the rest is a mix of NLP, and techniques that have been tried and perfected in the field. It's not a science nowadays nor mathematically intense, though it could be if the right person were to try it. It's more of a trial and error thing kind of like medicine in psychiatry.

 

[rangrz]

^

I'd.say the two.are totally separate. Game theory, as formulated by Von Neumann, is still a mathematical discipline and research from both a pure mathematics and applied (Economics, operations research, artificial intelligence) point of view are still conducted with all the glorious rigour of math.

This stuff seems to be more based in psychology and sociology, albeit in a handwavey way.

It's just a shame that the names overlaps, it's confusing and it makes some geek writing an A.I. script sound like an abusive, exploitative prick to people unfamiliar with the original useof the term.