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Recreational starting methadone dosage

hatrix

hatrix

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I've read through so many threads on methadone dosages the past couple of days and I've come to a consensus. The people that find methadone euphoric and recreational are those that have never had a problem with opiates and have only really had light opiate use. The people who see no recreational value in methadone what-so-ever, for the most part, are addicts, people still tapering down or just taking methadone to prevent withdrawals, and pretty much anyone who has regular heavy usage of other opiates. They don't get high off of it.

Honestly that's a completely skewed view on methadone and those people's view on methadone holds zero value. That doesn't mean it has no recreational potential. I've read as much information as I could find and I completely understand the dangers of methadone. It's still a potent mu-receptor agonist so you will get high off it if your receptors aren't destroyed. Death seems to occur either from combinations with other CNS depressants or someone with little to no tolerance starting at 30mg or so which is incredibly high. Redosing also causes a lot of deaths because people don't wait long enough for the drug to take effect or think it has wore off even though it's still in their system and redose again 24 hours later.

So me question is, with little opiate tolerance, is 5mg a completely safe dose starting dose of methadone for recreational purpose ? I don't need anyone to try to convince me to use something else like heroin or tell me it's not recreational. Don't bother posting if that's all you're going to say. I'm fully aware of the dangers and don't plan to redose until AT LEAST 48 hours have passed. I will be acquiring 40mg of methadone in 4x 10mg pills and should be able to make it go a long way when spacing out dosing with a good amount of days in between. It's considerably cheaper than other alternatives and the long duration is very appealing to me. At such a small dose I don't think nausea is going to be a problem. Of course, I could even split the dosage in half again and only take 2.5mg but from all that I've read I feel as though that would just be a waste of methadone as redosing is something I'm not looking to do. Becoming hooked on it isn't really something I'm worried about as my way of sourcing this isn't something I can do often.
 
I've done methadone a few times and each time I did 5mg. I had no tolerance and it got me feeling pretty good but I would have preferred a different opiate. Glad to hear your taking it seriously so I won't reiterate the dangers you're already aware of, but 5mg would be a good starting dose. Remember it can take 4hrs to reach peak plasma levels, good luck and be safe!
 
Hey man I just want to clarify that just because something is a potent mu-receptor agonist doesn't mean that it is going to be super recreational. Fentanyl is an extremely potent agonist and many people don't find it to be very recreational at all. And ditto what casualuser said, I'd start with 5mg and 4 hours into it if your unsatisfied take another 5 but nothing beyond that.
 
I hear you on that. Of course fentanyl is much much more potent and the dosage is extremely small compared to methadone. Morphine is a full agonist too I believe ? And it's recreational value is well known.

I'll report back my experience when it happens.
 
I just want to warn you and let you know that even one dose of methadone can cause serious withdrawal problems for the week after depending on the dose you take. A friend of mine dosed 20mg in a night and suffered terrible withdrawal for the next week. She had no real prior experience with opiates apart from when we did oxycodone together (which was about 3 months earlier) and hadn't touched them since. Beware.
 
Yup. Not making it up, she did. She's a small girl, about 90lbs. Suffered withdrawal from a week after taking 20mg of methadone in a night. Withdrawal symptoms didn't start to hit until a day after too.
 
I'm glad to see someone doing their research and taking methadone seriously. I have certainly never heard of anyone fatally overdosing off just 5mg (*when no other drugs were involved) and my doctor says 5mg should be fine even for an opiate naive (adult) person, for what it's worth.

The main problems with methadone that make it especially dangerous are:
- it takes a long time to take effect, so people take more thinking it's not doing anything
- for many (not all) people, yes even those who are not opioid addicts/heavy users (I can even find you some posts with people with little previous opioid experience or very infrequent use saying this if you want), the "high" is not very impressive, so they take more thinking they just didn't take enough without realizing you can OD without feeling euphoria
- it stays in your body a very long time and the dangerous effects like respiratory depression last longer than the "high", so people will think they are fine to take more or take other drugs because they don't feel high anymore and then die
- it is especially dependence-causing, the physical dependence is worse than other opioids, and because it stays in the body so long you can become dependent on it even if you are skipping days between doses.

So keep these things in mind :)
 
Well, the good thing is that I'm not a small girl, or a girl at all lol. Also, I'm not planning on taking a heroic dose like that since I haven't had any opiates in a month or two. Thanks for the info though !

And good info swimmingdancer. I'll find out for sure if the high is for me or not.
 
synthetix said:
Yup. Not making it up, she did. She's a small girl, about 90lbs. Suffered withdrawal from a week after taking 20mg of methadone in a night. Withdrawal symptoms didn't start to hit until a day after too.
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Are you sure it wasn't just a come-down/hangover kind of effect?? Or a coincidence like the flu or something? I didn't think it was possible to develop a real physical dependence from one day of opioid use, even if someone did have a really strange metabolic issue that made the drug last substantially longer than usual...?
 
100% sure it wasn't the flu. Sweating, no fever, constant diarreah and hugely dilated pupils. I watched her go through it, and was even considering taking her to hospital as I had no idea what was causing it - then wham, hit me in the face, the methadone she took. I think perhaps she just can't tolerate it well. She was opiate naive when i first introduced her to opiates (i was a real mess back then) and she snorted 60mg straight off, could walk straight but was high as fuck. Strange girl she is.

And as swimming said, if you currently are on any medications that are CNS depressants or you drink alcohol, beware for the next few days due to methadones very long half life. You could end up in a very bad way.
 
I take absolutely zero CNS depressants. I don't much like alcohol and currently have no benzos. I would never mix..

At most I was thinking of taking diphenhydramine but I honestly might not because I have allergies and always have a lot of mucus build up, so when I take diphenhydramine I can get some really shallow breathing even with small doses. Seems to risky to me.

Honestly thought I was going to die one night when I took 125mg for sleep. So hard to breath. Isolated incident with it but has always had me worried about taking it again. Diphenhydramine that is.
 
Well if you've experienced problems with dip, I strongly urge you NOT to take it alongside the methadone.

As far as opiates go and your personal experience with them, have you suffered any of the same consequences as a result of using them?
 
No I have not. I've taken a decently high dose of oxycodone for my little to no tolerance before and have had zero issues. Hydrocodone a bunch of times too with no issues.

It's from the built up mucus in the back of my throat literally drying up... I don't always have mucus build up. This was something that happened randomly even though I had taken diphenhydramine plenty of times before. Could be a special case.
 
I have to say I experienced the best high by far from methadone and oxycodone with klonopin and dxm and weed , though I was extremely foolish and should have never done so. The night before I blacked out from taking too much methadone because I thought I hadn't taken enough because I wasn't feeling a "high"

Be very careful with this shit
 
That sounds like an extremely risky combination. While I don't know your dosages and tolerance, I would say you're pretty lucky.

I plan on taking phenazepam tonight for an adderall comedown. Keeping in mind its super long half life I probably won't be taking any methadone until next week. I forgot I had almost 2g sitting around and thought I'd make use of it for something.
 
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Yes...It is a safe starting dose...I'm not a doctor,but your description of method makes me comfortable enough to tell you this.Methadone is a very curious,but"intelligent"drug.It would not be my first choice for recreational use,and I can honestly say when it comes to Methadone...BE SAFE,OR DIE...I wish you the best;)
 
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