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Drug for person who likes dreaming

agreed. opiates are the best for lucid dreaming. it's amazing. you can just lay there and float and dream, but you're still awake. it's nuts.
 
very very weak datura tea, or plant a datura bush outside your bedroom window, a light sub threshold dose of mushies works nice too, under a gram.

Or..... 240mg codeine + 180mg psudoephedrine. fluffy cloud land.
 
Ismene said:
I don't think dissociatives produce anything remotely like dreams.

The best by far is opium - this produces a strange half-sleep, half-awake state with very vivid dreams. Poppy tea will do the same.
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^ I'm in complete agreement with this. In all my experience with dissociatives the hole experiences have never been remotely dream like. I mean the only comparison is that you see a bunch of crazy shit happen.. you can often take part in some of it and control it and it's very cool nonetheless, but I wouldn't compare it to dreaming, see with dreaming there's this sort of cloudy sleepy haze surrounding everything, with dissociatives its more like a cold bleak analytical doctor's office - amazing, but doesn't quite have the warmth of dreaming.

That said I wouldn't encourage you to go off and try opioids if you haven't tried them already as they're very very addictive drugs, a completely different reality to psychedelics. Having said that though in my opinion dissociatives can be almost as addictive (or just as addictive/more so) - but thankfully they lack the severe physical dependence opioids cause and so they're by far the lesser of two evils usually.

From my experience, a run-down of the things that might appeal to someone who enjoys dreaming:

Opiates/opioids - the high dose experience, aka "nodding" is a very dreamy trance-like state in which you slip in and out of vivid lifelike dream scenes, often awakening to be a little surprised and wondering how the hell you got to where you are given that you were somewhere completely different a moment ago, only to quickly realise you'd nodded off.

Low dose deliriants in the day, awesome dreams at night - The deliriant experience is most definitely NOT what you're looking for, deliriants are more like terrifying nightmares than dreams most of the time, and the rest of the time you can completely forget you've taken a drug and endanger yourself, your possesions, and those around you.. however, taking a small dose of a deliriant that does not have any noticeable effects will MASSIVELY heighten the clarity of your dreams, the amount of dreams you remember, and how lucid you become for the next few days. People often dismiss deliriants as having no use, but imo they have a wonderful use as dream aids, just they aren't for tripping! If you go for this I'd advise going for something like Diphenhydramine which is much safer to dose than some deliriants (e.g. Datura).

Dissociatives - Yes I just said they aren't anything dream-like, but that doesn't mean a dreamer won't enjoy them. If you like extreme worlds of fantasy, intense imagery flowing before your eyes, then dissociatives will certainly be a treat for you. Also very rarely a hole can sort of take on a nod-like feel to it and become a little dreamy, it's rare but I've had it happen to me 2 or 3 times with Ketamine.

Most psychedelics - If you don't mind closing your eyes first, most psychedelics produce stunning imagery and scenery to the canvas of your closed eyelids. Some psychedelics, in particular the 4-substituted tryptamines (e.g. Psilocin, Psilocybin, 4-AcO-DMT, 4-HO-MET etc) have a dreamy quality to them that most people notice, which really adds to the trance and the visuals involved.

rickolasnice said:
Lucid dreaming you say?

Dunno if i already mentioned it in this thread (i have in many others) but I quickly became pretty good at achieving a lucid dream state..

Set your alarm for 3 - 5 hours before you normally wake up. Get up. Walk around for 5 - 10 mins (i used to eat a mars bar) while constantly thinking: This is a dream, I'm dreaming, This is a dream, I'm dreaming, etc, etc.. Then go back to sleep.. all the while thinking those 2 lines.. It took me less than a week to be able to lucid dream 60 - 80% of the time...

Seriously give it a go.. Lemme know if it works or not :)
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^^ Yes do this, only try 1-2 hours before your normal wake time (well actually try both and see which works best for you) - I've tried both and both of them resulted in lots of lucid dreams, but 1-2 hours before I wake results in at least one lucid dream a night with some rare exceptions. :D

Discovered this a long time ago, thought it was a load of rubbish since it sounded too good to be true, went from having had like 6-8 lucids in my entire life to having about 20-25 in my first month actively practising that. :)
 
Definitely diphenhydramine. Thats why i like it so much but only do it a few times. I did that shot for moths straight and i have permanent heart damage and erectile dysfunction
 
jg said:
In all my experience with dissociatives the hole experiences have never been remotely dream like
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The hole is not what I'm talking about (at least not how I define it). This is something that'd happen after. Mostly got it with DXM and 4-MeO-PCP, don't recall MXE being effective. My dissociated mental state would play into the content/themes, but the experiences bore more resemblance to normal dreams than the visions of the hole.

I would be me, in my own body and of sound mind, on a typical-dream-logic earth, and there would be a plot to it. I'd go in and out of them nod-style, and would generally forget them almost immediately (I only remember two or three more than amorphously).
 
Just to add to my earlier post... 5-htp causes very trippy dreams. easy to become lucid..try asking people if your dreaming, and if they ignore you, then try levitating, and spin or hold your hands together so you don't wake up.

50ish mgs of dipenhydramine + 900-1200 mgs of st. johns wort gives inense dreams too.
 
i wonder why never came up with vitamin b6 yet. i once had high dose b3,b6,b12 pills against a insuffiancy and from one day to the other had the wildest and intense dreams. or better said: a better memory for remembering the dream (or mulitple dreams) in the morning, after i had months of dreamless sleep.
 
Please, just don't even bother with deliriants. They suck.
Psychedelics probably aren't what you're looking for, but a psych + weed is lucid-dreamy and highly psychedelic/hallucinogenic.
Assuming you mean a hallucinogenic dream state, the best would be dissociatives, specifically Ketamine (don't bother with DXM and definitely no PCP).
I've heard some opium can give a very lucid dream-like, almost hallucinogenic kind of high.
From personal experience I would recommend Ketamine + Marijuana. It was better than dreaming, and music was fuuuuuckin amazing.
 
^ Yeah. I haven't tried every single drug there is, but I have to admit, in my experience, nothing beats high-dose MXE for inducing dream-like visions.

I have an extensive history of DMT experimentation, and IME it is not nearly as dream-like as MXE (and presumably ketamine, which I've yet to try). DMT visions usually consist of very specific themes, like highly complex 3D machinery made of geometric patterns and neon colors, or entities that seem to want to show you something. The conceptual content of DMT visions is also more vague, and open to interpretation.

MXE visions, on the other hand, are more dream-like because they are much less predictable, and aren't really limited to specific themes. Also, their conceptual content is much more lucid and detailed, so that, like dreams, they are not just visual images, but stories.

I have a feeling ketamine is even more vividly dreamlike, so I am really excited about trying K.
 
Obsidius said:
i wonder why never came up with vitamin b6 yet. i once had high dose b3,b6,b12 pills against a insuffiancy and from one day to the other had the wildest and intense dreams. or better said: a better memory for remembering the dream (or mulitple dreams) in the morning, after i had months of dreamless sleep.
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that :) i had a very intense dreaming sesion some weeks ago: noopept 20mg during the day and before bed 50mg b6 + 3mg melatonin
b6 is best dream potentator ive tried up until now but with the noopept and melatonin in the combo it was very intense, not a very restfull sleep though. mega vivid
 
Ne0 said:
I was thinking wat the drug is best for seeing "dreams awake", I mean like vivid deaming, so on. Seeing that you are copletley different place, fantasia, etc. Maybe deliriants?
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DMT hands down BEST for dreaming while awake.

I've always wanted to try that plant called "Leaf of god" while on a DMT trip, since it supposedly helps dreams become more "lucid".
 
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felix said:
seriously - nicotine patches. :D

click here if you don't believe me: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...official}&q=nicotine+patch+dreams&btnG=Search
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I will second this. The strongest ones (24 mg or whatever )put on as you go to bed will result in an entire night of the wildest dreams. Hundreds of em. It's unbelievable. Reminds me of ketamine, but much more dreamlike and less bobsleddy.

2. Ketamine. For real. Master it. All night sessions, always IM injection, every our or so, with hits of strong cannabis right after the injection(s). Then lay down and meditate until you see it start spinning. Dream away. You can get good at it. A skill hahaha a.

Methoxetamine is ok, nothing like ketamine for this purpose though. Maybe if you weren't familiar with K. . .but MXE is too stimulating, and there is an almost ceiling like thing for dreaming. . .
 
^ I could have sworn i posted that lol.. must have been in another thread

so yeah.. nicotine patches ftw.

K-Hole is like dreaming.
DMT can be too.
Salvia in a strange, horrible way.
Phenibut / GBL can induce more vivid dreams.
Deleriium dose of diphenhydramine can cause you to live a dream.. but they're mostly nightmares :\
 
Personally I like Ambien it pretty much is a walking dream. Be prepared to not remember much at all about the high dose trips though
 
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