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Is it possible to safely combine amphetamines with mdma?

Okami

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I ended up doing this combo on new years because I meant to do speed, but after taking a bomb approximately 200-300mg (eyeballed) in size I ended up forgetting my speed at home. Whoopsy. The amount I had taken wasn't a lot although I definately did feel it, it was not a yeay I'm high dose, but more of a okay I'm focused lets get an essay written dose. Since I didn't want to just get drunk i ended up doing 90mg (measured) of mdma on top of that, my normal dose being 100-125mg. I thoroughly enjoyed the combination, it kind of meant that I could enjoy the come down afterglow of md but still be stimulated to dance about and get home without feeling like shit.

In short my question is is this safe to do? Will my brain or heart bitch slap me 5 years down the line if I do this about once a month?
 
Well - this combo produces very intense euphoria that is profound. However, mixing these two is a very dangerous idea as amphetamine mixed with MDMA is very neurotoxic. If you continue to use these two regularly you will suffer a lot of problems and could end up frying your brain with only one time use of both these substances together. As MDMA itself is neurotoxic, mixing amphetamine ontop of this adds to the problem. It can fry your synapses very quickly, I've forgotten the exact mechanism of why it does do but honesty it does.

Look up on search amphetamine and MDMA neurotoxicity - there are many threads about it. I strongly suggest you stop mixing the two together.
 
or make sure u dont use heeaapps of amph/meth with mdma cause yeh its a brain fryer and it sorta kills ur mdma buzz...
 
Seriously, people?

I know they aren't healthy to combine, but for the sake of harm reduction, we might as well say "don't do drugs - they're bad" if we're gonna go and strongly suggest people stop using probably the most common party drug on the planet: ecstasy. Ecstasy pills typically contain more than just MDMA - typically amphetamines, sometimes other nasty substances, but the archetypal E is MDMA and speed - lots of people call pills "clean" if they're just MDMA+speed, nothing else. And a damn good thing too, as just MDMA is hardly party material, more for melting into your couch or girlfriend.

The question was whether it is possible to safely combine the two.
The answer, strictly speaking, is no.

If someone put up a thread asking "Is it possible to safely use methamphetamine", would you trudge right in and say "Absolutely not! Stop that at once!" ?
 
i didn't say to him DONT TAKE ALL DRUGS WHATSOEVER EVER BECAUSE ITS BAD blah.

it's just a common fact that mixing mdma and amphetamines can cause extreme cases of neurotoxicity. it's really unwise to mix both of them for that reason. i just advised against the use of it from a safety point of view, handing out the facts in front of OP. in the end of the day everyone is free to use drugs as they like - a person on the internet won't stop them. but it's better to know what damage you can be getting yourself in to by taking these drugs.

i wouldn't actually say that. i'd say its very unlikely, but many people do and can use methamphetamine safely.

no, lots of people call pills clean when they are just mdma. not speed. it's not common knowledge or expectancy for your MDMA tablet to be mixed with amphetamines.

you've kind of contradicted yourself here, as you're essentially saying that this drug can't be used to party so there's no point in taking it when you go out.. ummm.... mdma is party material, lots of people go to raves or night clubs taking mdma, but for some its for melting into the couch. its all about your personal preference.
 
works both ways i think. couch melting or fist pumping( fuck i hate the whole rave scene) BUT i rekon abit of speed with ur mdma makes it more of an upifting energetic lets dance kinda high. but if you have to much meth ur mdma goes down the drain and ur just tweaking
 
but in the interest of HARM REDUCTION 9ive just been repremanded so tryna set a good example) take a safe or ur typical dose of mdma and add meth/amph in very small intervals
 
works both ways i think. couch melting or fist pumping( fuck i hate the whole rave scene) BUT i rekon abit of speed with ur mdma makes it more of an upifting energetic lets dance kinda high. but if you have to much meth ur mdma goes down the drain and ur just tweaking

When I say speed I mean plain old regular amphetamine rather than the meth variety.
 
listen to ur body and make sure thee is a reasonable time between dosing the amphetamine and make sure its not a line the size of ur erect penis!
 
listen to ur body and make sure thee is a reasonable time between dosing the amphetamine and make sure its not a line the size of ur erect penis!

...I'm not that well endowed, if the lines any smaller I probably won't feel it :/
 
lmao okami dont be so hard on yourself i doubt that. did say that was rather funny though. i don't think i would feel it either if the line was the same size as my errect penis too though. no shame in it.
 
i didn't say to him DONT TAKE ALL DRUGS WHATSOEVER EVER BECAUSE ITS BAD blah.

it's just a common fact that mixing mdma and amphetamines can cause extreme cases of neurotoxicity. it's really unwise to mix both of them for that reason. i just advised against the use of it from a safety point of view, handing out the facts in front of OP. in the end of the day everyone is free to use drugs as they like - a person on the internet won't stop them. but it's better to know what damage you can be getting yourself in to by taking these drugs.

Yes, but it's possible to outline the dangers without issuing a warning of "stop doing this altogether".

i wouldn't actually say that. i'd say its very unlikely, but many people do and can use methamphetamine safely.

Yes, and many people can and do use amphetamines and MDMA together safely. Neither is healhy, but both can be used with relative safety.

no, lots of people call pills clean when they are just mdma. not speed. it's not common knowledge or expectancy for your MDMA tablet to be mixed with amphetamines.

Where I live right now, that would be correct - I expect my pills to contain only MDMA (+ binders and fillers). However, in many other places I have lived and visited, of course the ideal for a "clean" pill is pure MDMA, but for a lot of people it is very common to expect your ecstasy tablet to have something other than MDMA. Ecstasy tablets are some of the most notoriously impure drugs in common circulation. In Finland, for instance, most people would say that a pill with mostly MDMA and a bit of amphetamine is relatively clean. Dirty pills have piperazines, MDPV, huge amounts of speed and little to no MDMA, etc.
Pills with only MDMA are something of a rarity; people would be more surprised to find such clean pills than to find ones with a bit of amphetamine.

You and I are among the lucky ones, if we can expect that any given pill is going to contain nothing but MDMA. This is not the case in many parts of the world - I mean, just check Pill Reports - Es come in all kinds of dirty, and most people I have talked about with this would consider MDMA and a bit of speed to be a clean pill. Pure MDMA is "too clean" for many, and they routinely supplement these with speed when partying.

you've kind of contradicted yourself here, as you're essentially saying that this drug can't be used to party so there's no point in taking it when you go out.. ummm.... mdma is party material, lots of people go to raves or night clubs taking mdma, but for some its for melting into the couch. its all about your personal preference.

Where do you see a contradiction? I have said that MDMA in itself is hardly party material, which it isn't for me - I know full well that it is for some, but many others would agree with me: it isn't stimulating enough for dancing at a rave. I know it's a personal preference and never claimed anything else (although at least most people I know share that preference). Where, pray, have I contradicted myself?
 
worse!!? u mean more lipid suluable wich makes it slightly more potent weight for weight...plus i didnt mean to write that anyway. thought someone wa getting abit snobby because they do 'speed' instead of 'meth' all very silly
 
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