Stimulants Meth high vs. amphetamine high

[teeheehee]

I'm just wondering what the difference is between a meth high and an amphetamine (speed) high. I know they are the same drug, essentially, but how different are the feelings that each produces?

 

[onetwo]

They are not the same drug, essentially. They are both of the amphetamine class but that's it.

Amphetamine high is a lot more of a buzz with mild body high, mild mood lift/euphoria, etc. Methamphetamine high is much more wild and crazy and lasts much longer.

 

[Buddha1337]

Why are they the same drug?
Methamphetamine is Methamphetamine and Amphetamine is Amphetamine.
Because i've never taken any Meth i can't describe the differneces.
Speed gives you a little rush, you get euphoric and get your ass up to do things you normally wouldnt want to do like cleaning, washing up etc.
I think the best method to get known to these drugs is googling

 

[teeheehee]

Why are they the same drug?
Methamphetamine is Methamphetamine and Amphetamine is Amphetamine.
Because i've never taken any Meth i can't describe the differneces.
Speed gives you a little rush, you get euphoric and get your ass up to do things you normally wouldnt want to do like cleaning, washing up etc.
I think the best method to get known to these drugs is googling

I've done lots of googling, but it's hard to find first-hand accounts. I'd like to get some feedback from someone who's tried both and can describe the difference in detail.

 

[BlueHues]

The duration is the big one....good meth will last a lot longer....

If you're talking crystal meth vs. D-amp....They're very similar aside from duration....

Crystal is usually a lot cheaper per mg than a pill, so a heavy meth user won't really even feel a moderate dose of d-amp....

But meth and d-amphetamine are both actually pretty clean compared to an adderall preparation or methylphenidate(Not technically an amphetamine)

Some people think the L-amp in Adderall is responsible for the worse side effects....

although different drugs, an amphetamine is an amphetamine......I like d-amp and crystal pretty much equally....

D-amp might have slightly more euphoric qualities, but that's entirely subjective...

 

[Tryptamino]

crystal meth, when insufflated, is somewhere between a very high dose of dextroamphetamine and insufflated MDMA.

when smoked, meth feels almost exactly like the peak of MDMA, although much more intense IME.

when taken orally, meth is basically d-amp with less pronounced side effects and over twice the duration (8+ hours).

meth is a DNESA (dopamine/norepinepherine/serotonin agonist), unlike d-amp, which is a DNEA (dopamine/norepinepherine agonist), so meth has a slight empathogenic effect to new users, as well as a more calming, almost sedating effect, although when insufflated that aspect is fairly absent.

 

[teeheehee]

crystal meth, when insufflated, is somewhere between a very high dose of dextroamphetamine and insufflated MDMA.

when smoked, meth feels almost exactly like the peak of MDMA, although much more intense IME.

when taken orally, meth is basically d-amp with less pronounced side effects and over twice the duration (8+ hours).

meth is a DNESA (dopamine/norepinepherine/serotonin agonist), unlike d-amp, which is a DNEA (dopamine/norepinepherine agonist), so meth has a slight empathogenic effect to new users, as well as a more calming, almost sedating effect, although when insufflated that aspect is fairly absent.

I've never used MDMA or d-amp, so these comparisons aren't really helpful for me. Can you describe the actual physical feelings you get when you use meth versus the ones you get when you use speed?

 

[BlueHues]

It's very similar, but there's plenty of nit picky little worms that like to show off their ability to look things up on google and point out minor differences that I'm sure will gum up this thread! And they're most likeley gonna say things like, "Speed is subjective term! bla blah blah!"...even know we all pretty much get the gist of what you're saying...

Sounds like you need some who's done crystal and that euro-amphetamine stuff to weigh in...

Edit:And just to say, I have no problems with anyone who wants to have a scientific discussion about "stimulants" in general, it's just a lot of the time, posts asking pretty simple questions end up going nowhere because if you ask the question in a way that's in anyway vague, there's 10 people waiting to bust your balls with smart-ass answers. IME.

You should just google "amphetamines" and read about the different ones and it should give you a pretty good idea....For the most part all amphetamines pretty much do the same thing....CNS stimulation, alertness, euphoria, hypersexuality etc....

Dose for dose, meth is the most clear-headed long lasting amphetamine I've ever done....but once high doses and sleep deprivation get thrown in, it's not quite so "clean" anymore....

In general, I assume the european "amphetamine" is weaker and not as long lasting as American "crystal", of course the purity of street drugs vary which makes it even harder to have a truly objective discussion!

 

[Tryptamino]

I've never used MDMA or d-amp, so these comparisons aren't really helpful for me. Can you describe the actual physical feelings you get when you use meth versus the ones you get when you use speed?

Ah, I think this is better suited to BDD.

Meth makes you slightly physically edgy (yet still somehow relaxed), but mentally relaxed, and you can close your eyes and feel somewhat "peaceful" (i don't know if that's the right word). you don't move very much. and talking becomes difficult for some, but for others it's easier than ever. The rush is a feeling of "tingles" all around your body starting from your chest and flowing through your arms, legs and face. you also feel "connected" to other people, possibly feeling very empathetic towards them, although that quality of meth fades quickly after a few uses.

regular amphetamine is just talkative, slightly euphoric stimulation, no relaxation, just muscle tension, mental focus, extreme mood lift, and physical stimulation. it's also a lot less clearheaded than meth, and you may find your thoughts moving faster than you can comprehend them, whereas with meth, you can think VERY clearly. it's the basic stimulant.

 

[onetwo]

crystal meth, when insufflated, is somewhere between a very high dose of dextroamphetamine and insufflated MDMA.

when smoked, meth feels almost exactly like the peak of MDMA, although much more intense IME.

when taken orally, meth is basically d-amp with less pronounced side effects and over twice the duration (8+ hours).

meth is a DNESA (dopamine/norepinepherine/serotonin agonist), unlike d-amp, which is a DNEA (dopamine/norepinepherine agonist), so meth has a slight empathogenic effect to new users, as well as a more calming, almost sedating effect, although when insufflated that aspect is fairly absent.

I can't just sit here while you compare MDMA and meth-amp. THEY ARE ON COMPLETELY DIFFERENT LEVELS AND DON'T DISRESPECT MOLLY LIKE THAT.

 

[down508]

Meth is crazier and lasts longer. I guess you could say meth is to amp what morphine is to codeine if you will. Plus meth is usually sold in .2, .5, and 1 g whereas in the states amp generally comes in 20-30mg doses. People havemore control over their doses of adderall, due to the nature of meth and how its sold people are more likelyy to take more. Both can cause psychosi but meth psychosis is much more extreme, after staying up for 2 days on meth its not uncommon to see shadow people, and if your not familiar with this aspect of the high it can be quite frightening. Imo amp feels a little cleaner, its still a dirty feeling but meth will make you much more tweaked. Although i want to stear clear of opiate analogies, ill throw this one in. When i used oxy i would be high but it wouldnt be obvious to an onlookers, when i did heroini would be staggering like a drunk. Same with meth, it is much more intoxicating and i think more addictive, ive never had cravings for adderall but after the first dose of meth all i wanted was more.

 

[BlueHues]

I can't just sit here while you compare MDMA and meth-amp. THEY ARE ON COMPLETELY DIFFERENT LEVELS AND DON'T DISRESPECT MOLLY LIKE THAT.

Okay, you're not a complete retard!... So, ANYONE that tells you that you should have never posted in this thread to begin with, is completely wrong!!

You're quite the brilliant little guys with lots of great ideas to add and you sound like you've had several years of experience to back it up what you say!!

Also, the idea of person disrespecting a synthetic drug is a well thought-out, mature and ground-breaking idea!

I'm sure every time a batch of "molly" is synthesized, the pile of finished product that was just made is GLAD you defended its honor!

Well done!

 

[tricomb]

@OP, please stop posting a bunch of threads, and review the OD guidelines. Onetwo, you need to read the guidelines as well.

Now, I haven't read this thread in it's entirety yet but I'll probably end up closing it as we don't allow these comparison type threads, if you guys want this to stay open i suggest we stick only to discussing harm reduction related information, as soon as we start glorifying drugs, I'm closing this.

My two cents, I don't enjoy amphetamine period. Methamphetamine on the other hand, I enjoy it very much in it's pharmaceutical pure-dextro formulation for it's incredible therapeutic value when used with the utmost respect and responsiblity, keeping doses well under 30-40mg, taking extra measures to prevent neurotoxicity (as covered in more depth in Advanced Drug Discussion).

The dextro form of amphetamine is a step up, but I personally much prefer d-methamphetamine to d-amp, by a landslide.

It's very important to keep your dosing low, and to take extra precautions to maintain optimum sanity, hydration, sleep, hygiene, nutrition, and supplementation of electrolytes, it's even more important that you go out of your way to be safe and responsible with your amphetamine use.... especially if you are abusing them instead of using them therapeutically.

I would highly recommend all amphetamine users invest in chelated magnesium, 300mg capsules are the best. Also take with it, a complete multivitamin, vitamin D (be sure to take this with Magnesium), 3 grams of raw unrefined non-processed virgin coconut oil, taken orally, with a nice healthy meal or at the very least, a tall glass of milk or water.

Milk and more alkaline environments in general make amphetamines potentiated and harder for your body to eliminate, and the opposite/inverse is true also. If you have an acidic, low pH GI tract, then it will metabolize/eliminate ampheatmines faster, making them less effective, so stuff like orange juice weakens the experience, and conversely, a bit of baking soda will drastically potentiate the amphetamines, so be very careful.